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Norwegian ruling party aims to ban ‘annoying’ Islamic call to prayer
Not going to happen.
Furthermore, they will apologize for calling the Islamic prayer annoying.
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Fool.... :nono: This is very wrong behavior from Ingolf Ropstad, the leader of the centrist Norwegian Christian People’s Party. He will be sorry in the end. He is handing over Norway to Islam on a golden plate.
Norwegian government awards Islamist group 100,000 euros to convert 100-year-old church into a mosque

Kjell Ingolf Ropstad, the leader of the centrist Norwegian Christian People’s Party, has approved a grant for nearly 100,000 euros that will be used by a radical Islamist community to convert a church that’s over 100-years-old into a mosque.

The money will go to the Islamic Cultural Center – an organization that has several Islamic schools in their mosques in Drammen, Oslo, and Mjøndalen where children can stay overnight, Aftenposten reports.

This isn’t the first time Ropstad has awarded large sums of money to the Islamic group. In the past, the Islamic Cultural Center, which has a total of 3,775 registered members, has received nearly 70,000 euros to convert a former Baptist church in Stavanger to a mosque.

Ropstad also handed them another 20,000 euros to convert the prayer house “The Way” in Skien to a mosque.

Under the same grant type, Søndre Nordstrand Muslim Center has also been awarded nearly 30,000 euros.
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Norway repatriates Isis-linked woman and children from Syria

Norway said Tuesday it was repatriating from Syria a woman linked to the Islamic State (Isis) group and her two children, one of them reportedly seriously ill, citing humanitarian reasons.

Foreign Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide, confirming the operation to bring them home, told reporters: "We are doing that for humanitarian reasons because we fear the child is sick."

The government had until now refused calls to bring back the five-year-old, who according to media reports may be suffering from cystic fibrosis, unless his mother let him travel alone.

But the right-wing administration relented, allowing the three to travel to Norway from the Kurd-controlled camp at Al-Hol, northeast Syria, where they have been detained since March 2019.

Norwegian daily Aftenposten published a photo of the 29-year-old veiled mother, taken they said as she crossed from Syria into Iraq with her two children and two men. All the faces in the photo were blurred out.

The mother, who is described as Pakistani, is accused of having travelled to Syria in 2013 and married a Norwegian jihadist who was killed in fighting.

She faces arrest when she gets to Norway on suspicion of belonging to a terrorist organisation.

Since the collapse of the Islamic State group's so-called caliphate, the international community has been grappling with the problem of what to do with captured foreign nationals who fought with them.

While Norway has acknowledged the rights of former jihadists to return home, it has until now refused to help them, except in the case of lone children.
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SAS commercial: There is no such thing as Scandinavian culture

SAS, the leading airline of Sweden, Norway, and Denmark, is in hot water over its new commercial that people are calling globalist and multiculturalist propaganda.

Following the debacle, SAS quietly removed the contentious ad, which declared the entire Scandinavian culture borrowed and featured a black man saying he is no better than his ”Viking ancestors”.
The ad published on Monday starts with a punchline that nothing is “truly Scandinavian” before it goes down the list of things that people in Sweden, Norway and Denmark take pride of – wind power plants, the popularity of bicycles, parental care rights and democracy – and declares them “copied”.

The dismissive attitude is supposed to be counterpointed with a positive message: all those Scandinavian things had been brought from visiting other nations and adopting good things found there.

For some reason, the ad didn’t go down as well as expected. Instead of flocking to SAS website to buy tickets and fly to foreign lands for some good-spirited cultural appropriation, people went en mass to its pages on social media to vent off their outrage:

Here are some examples of what the top rated comments looked like:

”What a disgusting video!”

”Now you have really shot yourself in the foot.”

”Outright most excellent nonsense and self-hatred.”

”What is truly Scandinavian? Absolutely nothing, apparently.”

”One probably shouldn’t confuse thought-provoking with provocative when making ads.”

Some of the kinder comments said.

Before the video was removed from SAS YouTube channel over 97 percent of the voters had downvoted it.
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Ethiopian Airlines to open flights from Norway to Ethiopia so fake refugees can visit the countries they “fled” from

Ethiopian airlines this summer will open daily departures from Oslo to Addis Abeba because the demand is high among the large and ever-expanding African diaspora in Norway

Jasper Spruit, the Director for Traffic Development in Avinor says that this particular route is very popular among “Norwegian” travelers and that Addis Abeba has good connections to other destinations in Africa.

Mussie Fitehamlak, the Country Manager for Ethiopian Airlines in Norway says they have put in place the Oslo route so that it fits with further connections in Africa, both on arrival and departure from Addis Abeba.

“With this offer, Norwegian travelers will have daily access to Africa’s largest airline and our network throughout Africa,” he says.

If the planes are nearly fully booked, which one might assume, this means that about 1,800 people a week are leaving for or from Addis Abeba.

The distance from Addis Abeba to Somalia is relatively short, which means that not only Ethiopians but also Somalis and Eritreans will use this route.

Somalis, Eritreans, and Ethiopians are the largest African groups in Norway and the rest of Scandinavia.

The vast majority of Somalis have been allowed to stay in Scandinavia on the basis that their home countries were not safe to live and that they needed another state’s protection. They’ve also been allowed to bring families and relatives over. There is virtually no other reason Somalis are coming to Scandinavia.

Statistics from the Swedish Migration Agency revealed that among the many immigrants who came to Sweden last year for work, not one of these work-related immigrants was Somalian.

This makes one wonder why Somalias and other Eastern Africans in Scandinavia are making trips back to the countries where they allegedly needed to flee from.

The same alternative Norwegian media site that wrote about Ethiopian airlines, rights.no, has also revealed that Somalis in Norway are an invaluable asset for Somalis back in Somalia due to the vast sums of state welfare money they’re sending home.

The unemployment rate of Somalis living in Scandinavia is incredibly high, so the vast majority of the money that they’re sending back to Somalia is money from welfare collections – money that should be used to take care of hardworking, taxpaying Norwegian citizens.

In 2019 alone, nearly 55.6 million euros were sent by individuals in Norway to individuals in Somalia.

Rita Karlsen from rights.no asks: why aren’t we talking more about this?
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Norwegian ex-Muslim and critic of immigration temporarily banned from Facebook without an explanation

Hanni Afsar, an ex-Muslim living in Norway and an appreciated critic of both Islam and Norwegian immigration policies, has been banned from Facebook for a month.

Afsar says the social media giant told him that eight of his posts violated the “community standards” of Facebook, despite the fact that many of those posts were made a long time ago.

Afsar, who often writes columns for the Norwegian populist news outlet Rights.no says:

“I know that all my posts are well within the Norwegian laws – but FB has invaded the public space in this country. At the same time, they make huge money from their services, where their FB symbol can be found on all news platforms. But they operate with a set of (own) rules that limit freedom of expression. Who’s in the pocket of whom?”

“Freedom of speech is about the right to speak freely. And it should happen without interference from the authorities.”

“If we encouraged people to commit crime, racism, threats of violence or defamation, then it is punishable because it is enshrined in legal provisions. Criminal law applies a principle of law: No punishment without reference to which law is broken. This means that it must be stated in that an act is punishable in order to punish someone for the act.”

“But which laws I broke remains a secret that Facebook won’t tell.”

Afsar also points out a recent statement made by the Norwegian government which announced that they’r creating a national plan of action to combat ‘racism’ against Muslims.

Afsa – like many others in Norway – are critics of such plans.

“Where does the limit go? When does it turn into hatred? We do not need an action plan against discrimination and racism when we already have the Criminal Code.”

“The authorities and FB obviously agree that immigration critics, like me, should be silenced.

The mainstream Norwegian press wishes to do the same, and they have enabled the site Faktisk.no, a site which “fact checks” things that are said on social media.”

Faktiskt.no is funded by mainstream Norwegian newspapers Verdens Gang, Dagbladet and the TV channels NRK and TV2, as well as by big media companies Amedia and PolarisMedia, which own most of Norway’s local newspapers. The site is also funded by Facebook.

“Faktisk.no is supposed to “fact check” current claims that affect our perception of reality, as well as reveal and prevent the spread of fictitious messages claiming to be real news. It is clearly more popular with traditional media than among most of the Norwegian people”, Hanni says.

“That sounds nice, doesn’t it? The problem is just the political stance of the “fact-checkers”, and the type of articles they spend most resources on, and their collaboration with Facebook. This is clearly reflected in the immigration debate.”

Hanni concludes:

“Why does Facebook gets away with this censorship in Norway? It must be because our politicians allow it because it serves their interests.”
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Denmark and Norway close borders for everyone but ‘asylum seekers’

The Nordic countries – some more than others – have started to put measures in place to combat coronavirus.

While Sweden, Finland, and Iceland still have open borders, Denmark and Norway have closed their borders – except for the so-called ‘asylum seekers’ – despite the fact that many of them have come from coronavirus infested areas in northern Italy, Danish daily newspaper Berlingske reports.

“Denmark cannot just close the borders for asylum seekers. We are bound to the Dublin Convention and it means that we must accept and grant access to Denmark for asylum seekers and then subsequently assess which country is responsible for processing the asylum application under the Dublin Regulation,” Louise Holck, Deputy Director at the Department of Human Rights told reporters from Berlingske.

According to Louise Holck, that assessment is not about maintaining the relationship with Germany in particular, from where many of the asylum seekers come from when traveling to Denmark.

Mattias Tesfaye, Denmark’s Minister of Immigration, says that police will drive the ‘asylum seekers to the Sandholm migrant camp.

“The whole community must try to avoid the spread of infection. That is why we have also taken a number of steps and initiatives in the area of ​​asylum. Normally, asylum seekers will travel by public transport from the border to Center Sandholm in North Själland,” Tesfaye said.

“But from now on, the police will be responsible for this transport. At Center Sandholm, all new asylum seekers will be checked for health, as well as special quarantine facilities available,” the immigration minister continued.

“Asylum seekers will, of course, be quarantined according to the applicable criteria, if needed. Fortunately, the number of asylum seekers is at a very low level now.”

More reasonable politicians like Peter Skaarup of the populist Danish People’s Party have criticized the government’s policy harshly

“This has developed into madness!” Skaarup told the news site Den Korte Avis.

“First, it is foolish not to allow the border closure to include asylum seekers, and especially now in the current situation of the danger of spreading infection,” Skaarup added.

“And secondly, using the police to drive asylum seekers from Southern Jylland to North Själland is quite a challenge, thus exposing the police officers to the danger of infection.”

Skaarup also aptly notes that it’s often nearly impossible to find out where the ‘asylum seekers’ have originated from.

“No one can tell if they come from some of the hardest-hit areas. We often find that they either refuse to disclose where they come from or they have thrown away their passports,” Skaarup said.

In Norway, the government will not allow people without residence permits into the country for ten days, NRK reports.

But one group will still be allowed to enter: ‘asylum seekers’.
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Norway: Roma leaving the country amidst coronavirus outbreak

The City of Oslo arranged for a flight to take Roma people who are not Norwegian nationals back to Romania last week. The reason? They’re afraid of getting coronavirus (COVID-19) infections.

Earlier in the week, a group of 63 Roma who are Romanian nationals had taken a bus back to Romania. Another 140 who remained in Oslo tried to return via the same route later, but were unable to get through due to the border closings as a result of the epidemic, reported Norway’s Dagbladet.

As a result, Oslo set up its own flight to take the group to Romania on Wednesday.

The City of Oslo has said that many of the Roma in the city, who are typically homeless and live by travelling from place to place, have expressed a wish to return to Romania. They’re concerned about being exposed to the virus, and are also worried about their relatives back home, City Councilor Raymond Johansen told Dagbladet.

Johansen said that the city would likewise take steps to ensure that those Roma who remain in Oslo understand the new measures that have been introduced to slow the virus’ spread.

Oslo’s government is encouraging the Roma who are not nationals to leave Norway as it helps to relieve pressure on the city’s social services as it struggles to find housing and medical resources for all of the homeless people who now need it as a result of the epidemic. 70 people were turned away from a homeless shelter run by the Grønland Church due to lack of space, and the medical facility run by the Paulus Church has been forced to close down, as have other services for the homeless around the city, according to a report at Resett.

The flights for Roma have not been limited to Oslo. In Bergen, approximately 23 Roma were given a flight home after the city was forced to close all its facilities for the homeless due to the epidemic.
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Norwegian Christian university advertises woman wearing hijabs

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The VID University of Science in Norway has made a video ad for its course in “family therapy” which shows a smiling family of four, where both the mother and the very small daughter are wearing hijabs, Rights Norway reports.

The subject being promoted is “Expertise in couple and family therapy, counseling, crisis management, relationship, and networking”.

The school that ran the ad was created out of a 2016 merge between Diakonhjemmet Högskole, Haraldsplats Diakonal College, Betanien University College, and the Mission College of VID Scientific College.

The school is rooted in Christianity, and states that it is a: “a private, accredited college of science with a value-based and ecclesiastical foundation.”

Islam-critical Norwegian journalist Hege Storhaug writes about the ad on her website rights.no, and ponders how Christian values can be compatible with both gender discrimination of little girls and political Islam.

“Doesn’t the college, with a total of 470 staff and 4,800 students in Oslo, Bergen, Stavanger, Sandnes, and Tromsø, know that hijab is the foremost symbol of political Islam and that Islam does not have care for Christians at all? On the contrary, Islam has been fighting against Christianity from the beginning.”

Storhaug also argues that putting hijabs on small girls means you are not okay with freedoms and secular democracy, which Norway is supposed to represent.

“It is also obvious to interpret the significant prevalence of child hijab in Norway and Western Europe as propaganda for Islam: The more one gets into the hijab, the stronger is the power of Islam manifested in our society. And this has increased in recent years, not least in children, which you can observe if you walk on Norwegian streets”, Hege says.

“It is also almost funny that this hijab is linked to “couple and family therapy”. When the hijab is on your head, obedience is in your head. There is nothing to negotiate or to discuss whether or not the relationship between mother and father is completely top-notch. After all, I can illustrate that with what I have experienced, when my best friend in Pakistan was sick of depression in a miserable marriage. She begged her father for help, she begged her sister and brother-in-law about help. But not one of them could do anything because it was her husband, and it was he and only he who had the right to her and the children.”

Storhaug, a former feminist in the 90’s who stopped attending the International Woman’s Day marches in Norway because new wave feminists, as people know, are staunchly opposed to any criticism of Islam, despite it adding honor violence and cruel misogyny into Norwegian culture – problems Norway never faced before it began importing massive numbers of Muslims into the country.

Storhaug – like many others in Norway – are fed up with Norwegian media’s constant promotion of the hijab as something normal and beautiful. For instance, the Norwegian tax-funded public Service NRK has now started a series about a young, single Somali mom who has a dream to be on the cover of Vogue in a hijab.
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Celebration in Norway. Mullah Krekar is no longer in the country

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From one jail to another.
Cake Celebration as Norway Finally Extradites 'Dangerous' Islamist

Mullah Krekar had previously made death threats against now-Prime Minister Erna Solberg and has been classified as a “threat to national security”, earning him a place in the UN list of terrorists.

After a long legal battle, Islamist cleric and convicted terrorist Mullah Krekar has been extradited to Italy, where he was sentenced last year to 12 years in prison for having planned terror attacks.

“Krekar is no longer in Norway,” Justice Minister Monica Mæland proclaimed to national broadcaster NRK, adding that Krekar had been “delivered to Italy”.

Mæland explained that the extradition, initially cleared by Norway’s Supreme Court, was recently green-lit by King Harald V after years of legal proceedings.

Krekar, an Islamist cleric whose real name is Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad, was declared a threat to national security in Norway more than 15 years ago, not least after uttering death threats to now-Prime Minister Erna Solberg, both in the early 2000s and three years prior to her becoming prime minister. The threat made against Solberg in 2010 was answered with demands that the cleric be jailed or deported, and many were outraged when he was allowed to stay in Norway.

Mullah Krekar first arrived in Norway as a refugee nearly 30 years ago and later brought his family as well. He breached the terms of his asylum by travelling back to Northern Iraq and leading a guerrilla group listed as a terrorist organisation by the US.

In April 2006, a Pakistani-Norwegian businessman offered Krekar 500,000 kroner to leave Norway, calling him a “pest for all Muslims in Norway”. Krekar rejected the offer.

The Islamic cleric has been in and out of court and prison for years, as Norwegian authorities maintained that Krekar has encouraged terrorist acts and regularly threatened other Norwegian residents and citizens. Krekar denied making threats, claiming instead that he simply expressed his interpretations of Islamic law.

While the authorities of Iraqi Kurdistan have repeatedly asked for Mullah Krekar to be extradited from Norway, Oslo has rejected this push, as it failed to obtain assurance that he wouldn't be executed upon arrival.

In celebration of having Krekar finally deported, Progress Party politicians Sylvi Listhaug and Jøran Kallmyr organised another kind of party in parliament, complete with a cake. It was decorated with a Norwegian and an Italian flag and included an ironic parting message for their old foe: “Good luck, Krekar!”
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Norway: Convicted criminal foreigners to be released on the streets while Norwegians banned from visiting cottages

The coronavirus has created anarcho-tyranny in some parts of Europe. In France, the police cannot enforce quarantine measures in its “no go zones” which are inhabited mostly by migrants. At the same time, French citizens who live in other areas are fined hundreds of euros for breaking quarantine.

The Prison and Probation Service recently announced that it will release inmates who have a short period of time remaining on their sentences to limit the risk of infection in Norwegian prisons. Migrant inmates who are in the same situation will also be released onto the streets, daily Norwegian newspaper ITromø reports.

“The extraordinary situation in Norway now, due to the outbreak of COVID-19, has also had major consequences for PU and the capacity of the Police Immigration Service on Trandum,” wrote the Immigration Unit in a document sent to the Prison and Probation Service.

At the same time, ordinary people in Norway are prohibited from visiting their cottages until at least Easter, a measurement the government took to curb the virus’s spread.
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Somalis top the list of new Norwegian citizens

13,200 foreign nationals were given Norwegian citizenship in 2019, almost 3,000 more than were given citizenship in 2018, according to the Norwegian Bureau of Statistics.

Nine out of ten of those who were awarded citizenship last year came from non-European countries, and almost eight of ten were from Africa or Asia, Norwegian online newspaper Nettavisen reports.

Somalis were the most common nationality to be given citizenship, with nearly 3,000 Somali nationals receiving Norwegian passports last year. Eritreans came in second with close to 1,500 people receiving citizenship, followed by foreign nationals from the Philippines, Afghanistan, Thailand, Iraq, Ethiopia, Sudan, India, and Iran, respectively.

Many Norwegians are bewildered by the fact that Norway’s Migration Agency continues to hand out citizenship, especially to Somalis who continue to cost Norwegian taxpayers millions of euros as a result of their high unemployment rates.

As of January 1st of this year, immigrants comprised 18.2 percent of Norway’s population. Since 2000, the number of immigrants living in Norway has more than tripled, according to Statistics Norway.
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Norway: Parents can still avoid punishment for mutilating their daughters

Norwegian Minister of Justice Monica Mæland recently presented a new law, which if passed, would make it easier to hold parents accountable if it becomes known that their daughters have undergone genital mutilation – a practice common in many African countries.

But the new law has a disturbing loophole: parents can still mutilate their daughters and avoid penalty by claiming that they didn’t know that know the multination happened, or that it took place behind their back or against their will.

In one case which dates back to 2008, a Gambian couple was charged with mutilating their five daughters; however, because the father claimed he wasn’t aware that the mutilation took place, he and his wife were not prosecuted, Document Norway reports.

In the new legislation, “practitioners and staff in kindergartens, child welfare, social services, health and care services, schools, school recreation schemes and religious communities are penalized, who by notification or otherwise fail to seek to avert genital mutilation. The same applies to religious leaders and religious leaders in religious communities (§ 284, third paragraph).

Islam-critical journalist Hege Storhaug, has criticized the proposed piece of legislation, saying it, unfortunately, will fail to in its efforts to curtail the abhorrent practice of female genital mutilation.

“A whole generation of girls born in Norway have been sacrificed for the sake of cultural relativism since the early 90’s. We are talking about thousands of girls,” Storhaug notes.
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Norwegian police: Street thugs rob, humiliate, and intimate teen victims

A new kind of street robbery is taking place Norway where victims are not only stripped of their belongings but are also forced to do humiliating acts while the perpetrators film it, according to reports.

Oslo police officer Jonas Andreassen describes a state of fear among young people in the city. The victims are robbed, beaten and humiliated, but they dare not report it to the police or even to their own parents, he says.

“The robbery victims must kiss the robbers’ shoes, look at the camera, take off their jacket, and receive punches,” Andreassen writes in Norway’s largest print newspaper Aftenposten.

In his piece, Andreassen recounts an instance where a group of three boys robbed a 15-year-old boy at knifepoint in Oslo.

Andreassen writes:
  • The boy was quickly contacted by his parents, who did what adults should do in such cases: They called the police.

    The police were quick to identify the perpetrators, and shortly afterwards the police were at home in one of them. In his jacket pocket, police found the bell and knife displayed during the robbery. Good police work!

    The patrol then contacted the parents of the boy who was robbed to tell the good news. The perpetrators were taken, the yield was secured. Then came the victim’s reaction: “****!

    He was angry because his parents involved the police. And he was scared. Afraid that he must now look over his shoulder when he is out and about, afraid of reprisals from the perpetrators because he “snitched”.

    If you are a youth today and are being subjected to a crime, you don’t want to tell anyone, because of you do you are a “snitch”. And then your school will talk about you being a snitch and a Lordship.”
Andreasson continues:
  • So what can parents say to the youth? What advice can they give? This:

    Don’t let these guys and girls control you with threats.
    Do not allow yourself to be the perfect victim. You have to make yourself the worst and deadliest victims out there, so the risk of being taken is much greater than the gain of the wrongdoing.
    You have to show that you do not accept being robbed, threatened, beaten, and forced to kiss shoes, but that you instead stand up against injustice – and tell an adult.
    Migrant robbers subjecting their victims to complete and utter humiliation, unfortunately, is not a particularly new phenomenon in Scandinavia. Earlier this year in February, Voice of Europe reported on two African migrant ‘youths’ who robbed a Swedish teenager at knifepoint, beat him, forced him to remove his clothes, and then urinated on him while calling him a “most excellent disgusting Swede”.
In 2019, 2,500 robberies were reported against children under the age of 18 in Sweden, according to a report from Sveriges Radio.
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Norway police use tear gas after tensions surge at anti-Islam rally

Tensions surged among the several hundred counter-protesters when a female member of SIAN ripped pages from the Koran and spat on them.

A large number of police officers were deployed on Saturday in the Norwegian capital Oslo during an anti-Islam rally staged near the parliament building.

A group of counter-protesters had also assembled, banging drums, singing and chanting "No racists in our streets" during the rally by the group Stop Islamization of Norway (SIAN).

Tensions surged among the several hundred counter-protesters when a female member of SIAN ripped pages from the Koran and spat on them, news agency NTB reported.

"Look, now I will desecrate the Koran," the woman, Fanny Braten, was quoted as saying.

Braten has previously been charged and acquitted over hate speech, NTB reported.

Braten escaped unharmed after she was kicked in the leg by a counter-protester who managed to breach security fences and police cordons, Oslo daily VG reported.

Police said they deployed tear gas and pepper spray as part of their effort to keep the rival groups apart.

Fearing more violence, police ended the SIAN rally earlier than scheduled, and led SIAN supporters from the scene.

Four people who tried to disrupt the SIAN protest were apprehended, and there were also reports that stones and other missiles were thrown at the police.

The large police presence followed after SIAN leader Lars Thorsen was attacked a week ago during a similar protest in the western city of Bergen.

Norway's Islamic Council as well as Abid Raja, minister of culture had earlier urged people to stay away from Saturday's SIAN protest and not take part in counter-protests to avoid escalating tensions.
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Norway: Prominent critic of Islam found dead with ‘visible damage to the body’

SIAN leader Lars Thorsen “stressed that based on his knowledge of the deceased, he sees no visible motives other than political ones.”

The killer may have been a Muslim enraged over Lid’s “blasphemy,” but the perp may also have been a Leftist who believes that Muslims are a victimized group that needs special protection from criticism. We saw this in the Netherlands years ago, when Volkert van der Graaf murdered Islamocritic Pim Fortuyn “to protect Muslims.”

The organisation Stop Islamisation of Norway, of which the deceased was an active member, seeks to counter the proliferation of Islam, which it sees as a totalitarian ideology that violates the Norwegian Constitution and contradicts democratic and humanitarian values.
  • Dan-Eivind Lid, 48, one of the centrepieces of the anti-Islam organisation Stop Islamisation of Noway (SIAN), has been found dead. The police suspect foul play, the Norwegian broadcaster NRK reported.

    Lid was found dead in his apartment in Suldalen in Kristiansand, with what has been reported as “visible damage to the body”….

    “One of our hypotheses is that the person has been subjected to a serious criminal act and died as a result of it”, a police spokesperson said at a press conference….

    SIAN leader Lars Thorsen described Lid as “an active member of many years”, with whom he had a close relationship. Thorsen emphasised that Lid was “friendly and polite” and stressed that based on his knowledge of the deceased, he sees no visible motives other than political ones.

    “There is nothing about his nature that can explain why he should end up in a situation where someone would like to take his life”, Thorsen told the newspaper Nettavisen….
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Could have been a state actor. Any suggestions?

"whoso opposes Allah and His Messenger - Allah is severe in punishment!"

Perhaps one or more perps gained entry to his house through deception.
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Re: News from Norway

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Lars Thorsen is the man who is behind the koran burning. So I guess he is killed by a muslim.
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Re: News from Norway

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I wrote:Perhaps one or more perps gained entry to his house through deception.
As in:

Allah's Messenger said, "Who is willing to kill Ka`b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Messenger! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka`b). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka`b and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad) demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Ka`b said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Ka`b said, "Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me." Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, "What do you want?" Ka`b replied, "Mortgage your women to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?" Ka`b said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people's saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Ka`b that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Ka`b at night along with Ka`b's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. Ka`b invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, "Where are you going at this time?" Ka`b replied, "None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na'ila have come." His wife said, "I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka`b said. "They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed." Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and `Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, "When Ka`b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Ka`b bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka`b replied. "I have got the best 'Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka`b "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka`b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka`b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka`b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi`) was killed after Ka`b bin Al-Ashraf
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"Muhammad is considered to be a perfect model" SOURCE: BBC website

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Re: News from Norway

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Norway and Sweden are waking up. Some of them had enough Islam.
Sorry, too late now. You have to live with it. This is the new normal.

The leaders responsible are isolated from all this mayhem.
They are feeling safe... until they are not.






Islam: an idea to kill and die for.

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