is Walid Shoebat a fake?

[pert]

Islamic apologetics are now claiming Walid Shoebat was never in the PLO, does anyone know anything more about this?

[pr126]

Islamic apologetics are now claiming Walid Shoebat was never in the PLO, does anyone know anything more about this?

My question is then this: Why only Islamic apologetics claiming that? Cui bono?

[manfred]

Muslim logic is somewhat different to that of an average person....

A person NEVER really leaves Islam, you know, those who join another religion never were "real" Muslims in the first place. The schizophrenic part about that is that "apostasy" still deserves the death penalty, even though it apparently does not really exist.

So this is part of the same logic. A person who changes an allegiance away from an organization such as the PLO is simply described as someone who never really belonged there, anyway. That does not mean he can visit the "Palestinian" territories in safety though. He is still a "traitor" even though he never really belonged to them.

If you are getting a headache, I sympathize. Totally mad, I know, but apparently not to an Arab.

[Ghaith]

Well the motto Islamophobes here at FaithFreedom live by is "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story". We can se exampels like this when Faithfreedom was flooded by the claim of Necrophilia halal in Egypt. Later this became exposed as a hoax. Walid Shoebat is a fake indeed. And his son Theodore Shoebat is following his shoes steps.
His stories keep changing for some reason


Im sure if you do some research onhim you will se that he is a fraud just like the Islamophobe Queen Wafa Sultan.

[ringmaster]

Well the motto Islamophobes here at FaithFreedom live by is "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story". We can se exampels like this when Faithfreedom was flooded by the claim of Necrophilia halal in Egypt. Later this became exposed as a hoax. Walid Shoebat is a fake indeed. And his son Theodore Shoebat is following his shoes steps.
His stories keep changing for some reason


Im sure if you do some research onhim you will se that he is a fraud just like the Islamophobe Queen Wafa Sultan.

Bitch boy allah and his man whore prophet are two of the biggest fakes that mankind has ever been stupid enough to fall for.

[Auzer]

Offcourse , he is a fake. As fake as it gets... He is another Christian missionary..do I need to say more?

And to the OP ...its not only 'Islamic apologetics' but journalists like Anderson Cooper too! Anderson Cooper totally exposed this fraud on his show....

Search it on youtube...

People like Shoebat , Spencer , Shamoun etc are biggest joke out there...Muslims see them...laugh their butt off...and stop taking us , the 'rational critics' , taking seriously too!!!!

[manfred]

he responded to that here

[pr126]

Auzer, your posts read like as if you were a Muslim.

You may say that you are not, but you certainly are a sympathizer, a fellow traveler.
Which is far worse that being a Muslim. You are a sell out to the most damaging ideology ever to exist in human history..
You and your ilk are beneath contempt.

[kaimana1]

Offcourse , he is a fake. As fake as it gets... He is another Christian missionary..do I need to say more?

And to the OP ...its not only 'Islamic apologetics' but journalists like Anderson Cooper too! Anderson Cooper totally exposed this fraud on his show....

Search it on youtube...

People like Shoebat , Spencer , Shamoun etc are biggest joke out there...Muslims see them...laugh their butt off...and stop taking us , the 'rational critics' , taking seriously too!!!!

So you would never believe CAIR had anything to do with the cnn story would you?

If they were then islamic apologetics is at the forefront. Now lets read the link provided by manfred

[kaimana1]

Offcourse , he is a fake. As fake as it gets... He is another Christian missionary..do I need to say more?

And to the OP ...its not only 'Islamic apologetics' but journalists like Anderson Cooper too! Anderson Cooper totally exposed this fraud on his show....

Search it on youtube...

People like Shoebat , Spencer , Shamoun etc are biggest joke out there...Muslims see them...laugh their butt off...and stop taking us , the 'rational critics' , taking seriously too!!!!

One more thing auzer- do you by any chance go on any sikh forums in the last couple of months or so?

[pr126]

kaimana1 wrote:

One more thing auzer- do you by any chance go on any sikh forums in the last couple of months or so?

Or here?

[Ghaith]

Here a whole serie exposing this monkey this is CNN not yayhashow or the light or any other muslim serie. No muslim the right mind would leave Islam to worship Jesus as god. Pr you should watch you mouth and stop assaulting members here.
Auzer has a diff opinion it does not make him a muslim or a sell out just like being a islamophobe doesnt make you a masonic zionist



Thats just pt 1

[kaimana1]

Here a whole serie exposing this monkey this is CNN not yayhashow or the light or any other muslim serie. No muslim the right mind would leave Islam to worship Jesus as god

Ghaith you didnt check out the links pr provided did you?

If you did you would learn that CAIR was behind that cnn interview with shoebat and you would also learn that it wasnt shown in its entirety.

. Pr you should watch you mouth and stop assaulting members here.
Auzer has a diff opinion it does not make him a muslim or a sell out just like being a islamophobe doesnt make you a masonic zionist

Ghaith stop being so gullible and naive if you go to this site http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f18/phenomenon-that-can-prove-fatal-growth-islam-54044/index2.html

You will see that MUSLIM auzer is clearly the same auzer that suddenly becomes agnostic everytime he comes on this site

He should also know that he makes it hard on many muslims who try to dispel the taqiya issue when auzer plays games like that

He should be ashamed of himself.

[kaimana1]

Auzer wrote posted this on the site

1.Internet is the strongest tool of information is this age.Internet has the greatest penetration power than any other medium.
■ As we know,there is an ongoing "war" of apologetics b/w Christians and Muslims.There are alot of propaganda sites against Islam on the internet. Average Muslims don't know about the field of apologetics.They don't know the "tricks and techniques" this field applies to get its job done.Sadly,many Muslims fall victim to their ignorance of apologetics.There are also many Islam-defending apologetic sites but here comes the problem

■ Two months ago,I decided to check the trends of apologetics on the internet. I followed the Christian apologetic sites and then I made a comparison with the Muslim apologetic sites.Results were not very pleasant !

■ The Christian apologetic sites (and anti-Islamic sites) such as Answering-Islam.org , faithfreedom.org , Carm.org etc get way,way more traffic than Muslim apologetic sites.

■ The largest and number one (by traffic) Muslim apologetic site is Answering-Christianity.com but Alexa shows that Answering-Christianity's traffic is falling day by day.

■ Here are the rankings : (Christian apologetic sites)

Answering-Islam.org ----- 85,911 (worldwide)
Faithfreedom.org ------- 34,400 (worldwide)
CARM.org ------------ 42,315 (worldwide)

*These sites are not only very popular in Western countries but they are penetrating in Muslim societies as well !
--> Indonesia (Larest Muslim country on planet) is one of the LARGEST audience of FFI . . . .


Here are the rankings : (Muslim apologetic sites)

Answering-Christianity.com ------- 157,893 (worldwide)

*Other than this site,no full-fledged Muslim apologetic site is in top 200,000 most visited sites of the world.

The situation is alarming ! Google search for "Islam" shows Answering-Islam on the first page , which is a VERY ALARMING situation.Most people use internet these days.Interest in Islam is on the rise in Western world but when Western folks use google and see sites like Answering-Islam, they start hating Islam and many of them even start working actively to "stop" Islam. This is not very good for the growth of Islam in the West. Also such sites make many gullible Muslims to leave Islam and become Atheists or Christians and then these ex-Muslims start working AGAINST Islam in order to "save" other Muslims from it..

S0,how should we deal with this situation? Any solutions? I guess we should visit Muslim apologetic sites often to raise their ratings and also SPREAD the basic knowledge of apologetics among Muslims.

THAT IS THE VERY SAME AUZER ON HERE HANDS DOWN.

Im GLAD HE IS WORRIED THOUGH! LMAO

[manfred]

Interesting link, Kai...

Whatever the case is brother....we have to counter this !! Our new young generation in the West,when become interested in Islam,goes to the internet (like for every other thing they do)..Then they confront with these sites who uses Qur'an to prove THEIR point..So these innocent Western Muslims really become clueless and leave Islam ..Now these sites are also becoming popular among Muslim world. When you search for any Islamic knowledge on google, you get 90% Anti-Islamic sites and this is VERY dangerous. Internet will keep on growing and by the time,Muslim world start using it as a major tool...I fear that,Khuda na Khasta , internet would have become INFESTED with *trained* people and *specialized* arguments against Islam. This can be FATAL in the long term,Khuda an Khasta , God forbid !!!!!

[pr126]

Ghaith wrote:

Pr you should watch you mouth and stop assaulting members here.

Or what?

[paxi christi]

Ghaith wrote:

Pr you should watch you mouth and stop assaulting members here.

Or what?

fpmsl

[ringmaster]

Offcourse , he is a fake. As fake as it gets... He is another Christian missionary..do I need to say more?

.....................!!

Who cares whether Shoebat is a fake or not? Who cares whether he is a Christian missionary or not? It's irrelevant. To bring up this sort of crap is nothing more than diversionary Tu Quoque.

The only burden of proof we have in here is to show that islam is sh!t. Whatever sort of person Shoebat is (fake or real) will not change the fact that islam is sh!t.

[Ghaith]

@Kai

Kai are you saying the information is false and he did throw the bomb?

Yayha show has already exposed his son on the low low knowledge he has about Islam. Also the fact that Walid keeps changing his story is more than enough. 5k for one meeting. This is your tax money kai. You are paying this monkeys fuel.

[kaimana1]

Kai are you saying the information is false and he did throw the bomb?

Well

Yayha show has already exposed his son on the low low knowledge he has about Islam.

In the vidoe you showed with walids son ted- the muslim making the video cries about ted using awful language-

That is absurd Ghaith - he said that islam being the religion of peace is BULLOCKS, RUBBISH do you consider that awful language?

I would have if he said islam is BULLSH!T or something along those lines- but bullocks and rubbish dont fall into that category

BTW ted was right in that regard anyways Yahyah couldnt debunk himself out of a brown paper bag- he simply does a whole lot of mental masturbation - that is required amongst many muslims in order to justify their cult

Also the fact that Walid keeps changing his story is more than enough.

Hmm

5k for one meeting. This is your tax money kai. You are paying this monkeys fuel

Honestly i would rather see my tax dollars go to him then the likes of CAIR

Any thoughts on auzer getting exposed Ghaith?