Why We Are Afraid: A 1400-Year Secret

[pr126]

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[manfred]

Thanks for posting that.

A truly insightful talk.

[Centaur]

Muslims love to lie,they conquered all the classical civilisations and claimed golden age at the expense of these civilisations they wiped out.There could have been much more greater inventions or contributions if these civilisations were left alone by Islamic thugs . As he said its a shame that the west do not want to look into this Islamic brutality and chose to ignore their own history.Th stupid west still want to support the Islamics in Syria, Right?

[pr126]

Centaur wrote:

Muslims love to lie

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Muslims have to lie, even to themselves.
Without lies and lethal violence Islam can not exist.
Muhammad understood that from the very beginning.

[Idesigner]

All non muslims of the world whether they are Jews, Christians, Hindus, Budhhists, Zorastrians are totally dhimmified by Islamic brain washing.

Reasons are many for the self dhimmifications of Europeans.

1.Post colonial European christians carry lots of guilt because of African slave trade, opium war and all sins of segregation of blacks in South Africa and US. Europe and US has to come out of this mindset and defeat Islamic ideology by showing how they have progressed after WWll.

2.Other reason for self Dhimmification of Europe and US is because of their dependence on Arab oil.

3.Also add cold war mind set of western world where they still refuse to wake from the trechery of Afghans and Pakistan.There was no need to support muslim Afghanistan-Pakistan against commie USSR. US should leave these two countries and leave them to their own devices.. If any country is suspected of another 9/11 type of terrorism, US has right to militarily retaliate the attack without going there.

4. Theological reason: Christian world was finally convinced that religion of Arab Maruders i.e. Islam was long lost cousin of true one god Abrahmic faith. Even right wing christians fell for this propaganda and joined hands with muslims to persecute Pagan religions.

Self Dhimmification of Hindus is well documented and legendary. It all started by Sufi conversions after initial forced conversions. Budhhist are and were born Dhimmis. Look at Dalai Lama !! He even kiss ass of Chinese and Muslims one after another. In central Asia Budhhists never fought with muslims. In no time they were convinced that Mohemmed is just like Budhha without any pic or statue. . Zorastrians are practically extinct and no ideologically modern Iran will never destroy the religion of their slave masters.

Some non Iranian should make a similar clip about how Iran was raped and enslaved by Arab maruders such as Ali the butcher and Omar .

Even creation of Israel had made some sections of jews to become Dhimmi and sympathize with Pali victims . Actually they were( Palis) aggressors from day one.

[Fernando]

Thanks pr126. This should be compulsory viewing for all politicians and journalists but how many would if offered - about half a dozen? I suspect most would immediately rush off and attempt to discredit the author.

[Auzer]

So like a very professional murderer , Islam erase its crime history? So much so that if anyone questions it...he face a negative reaction from the masses..even non-muslim masses...

mmmm interesting....One of my first thread on this forum was related to this... Islam is the strongest ideology out there.... It is really hard to deal with...It has built-in defense mechanisms ... It has religious , legalistic , political , economic , and social aspects to it... Never in the human history has anyone faced such a strong , multi-dimesional and lasting ideology...

And add Bill Warner's talk to this...Islam also develops a blackhole on his crime...wow

[pr126]

Auzer, the one man propaganda machine for Islam, posts again.

Promoting Islam on Faithfreedom.org is not very smart. It will only get you scorn and ridicule.

[enceladus]

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Islam is the strongest ideology out there....

You've seen what whining the Muslims have been doing over a mere **movie!***
You call that "strong"? I call it PATHETIC.

Oh, and get ready - there will be A LOT more "offensive stuff" like that coming along the road.
You ain't seen nothing yet.....

It is really hard to deal with...It has built-in defense mechanisms ...

Bwahahahahahahahaha.......

Yeah..... "built-in defense mechanisms". Like whining whenever an "offensive" movie or cartoon comes out. Hahahahahahahahaha!

- enceladus

[pr126]

Islam is the strongest ideology out there....

Well, maybe not the strongest. The infidels have bigger guns...

But certainly the most violent, war oriented, most primitive, backward, misogynist, most intolerant ideology.
It is perpetuated by deception, fear, ignorance and lethal violence.

It has to be.
Islam is the only source of power the despotic tyrants have. Brutal sharia laws keeping the ignorant masses in check. Where might is right.
Critical thinking, free inquiry is forbidden.

[Auzer]

Islam is the strongest ideology out there....

Well, maybe not the strongest. The infidels have bigger guns...

I said "strongest ideology" .. Ideology doesn't have anything to do with military might....

Islam THRIVES everywhere , Mashallah. In the secular , enlighten , liberal , capitalist West too...

From its very inception , Islam is only "growing" and "growing" ..Inshallah it will keep on growing...so do you plan to stop it? Big guns are used in Afghanistan and Iraq...a military defeat does no harm to Islam..it only expands even further...

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It has to be.
Islam is the only source of power the despotic tyrants have. Brutal sharia laws keeping the ignorant masses in check. Where might is right.
Critical thinking, free inquiry is forbidden.

Foe example Turkey and the West ...oooppssssssss

[Auzer]

You've seen what whining the Muslims have been doing over a mere **movie!***
You call that "strong"? I call it PATHETIC.

Exactly. Unlike Christianity , which is dead humilated defeated faith..Islam is young , more powerful and expanding Mashallah...now power here doesn't mean economic muscle or military might...that has to do with materialistic reality and not the strength of ideology... Everyday I say jesus' pics as gay...sucking cock..doing sodomy etc..Christians don't get mad...but as soon as you say anything to Muhammad...ALL HELL BREAK LOOSE!!!!! THIS is what 'strength' of an 'ideology' is .....

Oh, and get ready - there will be A LOT more "offensive stuff" like that coming along the road.
You ain't seen nothing yet.....

Al Qaeda would be most happy...West would the ultimate loser....

Bwahahahahahahahaha.......

Yeah..... "built-in defense mechanisms". Like whining whenever an "offensive" movie or cartoon comes out. Hahahahahahahahaha!

No like Ramadan , killing of apostates , Islamic Banking , global Halal market of ~ $ 700 billion , concept of hell , Islamic Law code etc etc...

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12783

Read the OP on this thread...

[frankie]

Auzer:

Exactly. Unlike Christianity , which is dead humilated defeated faith..Islam is young , more powerful and expanding Mashallah...now power here doesn't mean economic muscle or military might...that has to do with materialistic reality and not the strength of ideology... Everyday I say jesus' pics as gay...sucking cock..doing sodomy etc..Christians don't get mad...but as soon as you say anything to Muhammad...ALL HELL BREAK LOOSE!!!!! THIS is what 'strength' of an 'ideology' is .....

No like Ramadan , killing of apostates , Islamic Banking , global Halal market of ~ $ 700 billion , concept of hell , Islamic Law code etc etc...

You claim Christianity is" dead humilated defeated faith".Where is your evidence?

Even if it were so,it still leaves Islam in a very precarious position.

Islam is a prefabricated belief system,based on 7th century Arabian life.It's inventor was a deluded 7th century Arabian,who brought his existing pagan beliefs into perpectuity,disguised as a religion,for his own selfish desires of wealth,power and control. Muslims have fallen for, and are still falling for this massive trick played on them.

This fact alone puts Muslims into the position of fools,and are still being taken for fools.Their false prophet was a desert pirate,who did what all pirates do best,conquer,loot,kill or subjugate.

Are you one of these fools Auzer?

[time to wake up]

Not exactly shy or restrained with your criticism of Christianity are you Auzer

I can draw my own conclusions from that

You keep boasting about the strength of Islam, and yet we've heard it all before, a thousand times by this ideology, that empire, right up until the 1000 year Reich of a certain German Chancellor a mere 60 years ago

Who would have predicted in the first century with Muslim armies on the border with France and Byzantium in retreat that Spain and Portugal would once more be free. That in the 17th Century Islamic armies were pushed back from vienna all the way to Turkey. Yes, the next thousand years saw the ascendance of the West, who would have thought that?

Historically, things have been far, far worse, and while currently Islam appears successful, it is wholly based on the grace and ignorance of the West. Pray things don't change.

The problem Islam has, is that all the God given ideals and virtues of humanity have been mocked and twisted to further it's own aims. If it does subdue humanity's higher attributes, of intellectual honesty, compassion, empathy and individualism through fear and intimidation, then humanity as we know it ceases to exist. That cannot be allowed to happen.

As for Christianity being a dead religion, mockers have said as much for 2,000 years or more. Yet even today, despite many attacks, faith in this Jesus continues to grow and inspire people the world over, many even calling him saviour and redeemer, me included.

[Auzer]

Not exactly shy or restrained with your criticism of Christianity are you Auzer

I can draw my own conclusions from that

You keep boasting about the strength of Islam, and yet we've heard it all before, a thousand times by this ideology, that empire, right up until the 1000 year Reich of a certain German Chancellor a mere 60 years ago

Who would have predicted in the first century with Muslim armies on the border with France and Byzantium in retreat that Spain and Portugal would once more be free. That in the 17th Century Islamic armies were pushed back from vienna all the way to Turkey. Yes, the next thousand years saw the ascendance of the West, who would have thought that?

Historically, things have been far, far worse, and while currently Islam appears successful, it is wholly based on the grace and ignorance of the West. Pray things don't change.

The problem Islam has, is that all the God given ideals and virtues of humanity have been mocked and twisted to further it's own aims. If it does subdue humanity's higher attributes, of intellectual honesty, compassion, empathy and individualism through fear and intimidation, then humanity as we know it ceases to exist. That cannot be allowed to happen.

As for Christianity being a dead religion, mockers have said as much for 2,000 years or more. Yet even today, despite many attacks, faith in this Jesus continues to grow and inspire people the world over, many even calling him saviour and redeemer, me included.

Well guess what? Turkey , Asia-minor region , Egypt , Palestine , Northern Middle-East , Algeria , Tunisia , Morocco , Libya etc were ALL Christian-majority nations/regions...Islam destroyed eastern-Christianity. What could Christianity do in return? absolutely nothing! Which "Muslim-majority" region did Christians convert to Christianty? Not a single one! Yes , Islamic Force was made to retreat from Spain and other European parts..but in what time? It took CENTURIES to do that. And Western force was made to retreat from Muslim lands in what time? within 1 century most of the times..lol..You see the difference?

Historically , Islam/Muslims is THE most successful civilization of humanity. Out of 1400 years of Islam , Muslims remained dominant global force , in one form or the other , for stunning 1100+ years!! That is ---Islamic Civilization remained on top for 71% of its entire history!!!! No other civilization even comes close to this success ratio...After 18th century however , Muslims failed to industrialized and West took over...From past 300 years or so , this massive civilization encompassing 25% of entire humanity is in 'decline' ...but as I see it ....Muslims are now coming back! Though it will take some time obviously , but the process is starting slowly and slowly.From Arab spring to fighting Taliban in Afghanistan...From Western Muslim scholars to progressive Islamic Scholars in Pakistan...Muslims are trying to reform themselves for better. Islamic Faith , for good or worse , is such that in nature that it doesn't like "being second" ... This ALWAYS drive Muslims to try for the top...

Lastly , Christianity is a dead religion. No one gives a sh!t about what bible says etc. Sex outside of marriage is suppose to be 'bad' in Jesus' bible? Guess what? Westerners don't even poop on bible lmao! By the way , just to open your eyes , in 1910 ...35% of humanity was Christian and 12% of people were Muslims..Today , 32% of global population is Christian and 25% of global population in Islamic...AND christianity is stable while Islam is "growing"--Mashallah.

Also , Islam is already the LARGEST 'practiced' faith on the world and hence most influential, Mashallah.They are way more 'practicing' Muslims than practicing christians etc...

Stop hating on Muslims and get along with them. Hate extremists from ALL sides..whether they are atheist extremists , taliban , or anti-isamic christian extremists etc...

[pr126]

Auzer wrote:

Stop hating on Muslims and get along with them.

As equals? Is there a precedence to this in the 14 centuries of history of Islam?

Quran 5:80, 3:28, 3:118, 5:51 among other verses says - not a chance. Islam forbids it.

[Auzer]

Auzer wrote:

Stop hating on Muslims and get along with them.

As equals? Is there a precedence to this in the 14 centuries of history of Islam?

Quran 5:80, 3:28, 3:118, 5:51 among other verses says - not a chance. Islam forbids it.

Yes. As equals.

And backward Muslim countries that don't treat minorities rightly will be "forced" to do so. Remember slavery?

Also , stop giving these references. No one cares about it. There are always different interpretations and modern Muslim interpretations are different than yours.

I can also quote tons of verses from the bible showing how it is a crap book.

[pr126]

Also , stop giving these references. No one cares about it.

Except Muslims. Unless they reject the Quran. Can't see that happening anytime soon.

[sum]

Hello Auzer

Your quote -
Also , stop giving these references. No one cares about it. There are always different interpretations and modern Muslim interpretations are different than yours.

It is heartening that you are starting to reject Allah`a guidance in the Koran. Do you think that you will continue on from this and regard Islam as false and a handicap for the advancement and harmony of all mankind?

sum

[pr126]

Auzer wrote:

And backward Muslim countries that don't treat minorities rightly will be "forced" to do so. Remember slavery?

Forced by whom? When?