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is Walid Shoebat a fake?

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Re: is Walid Shoebat a fake?

Postby ringmaster » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:25 pm

pr126 wrote:In Auzer's case I can see only two scenarios.

1. He is dreaming the impossible dream of Islam's reformation for the better, in which he illustrates his complete ignorance of Islam, and a fools errand.

2. He is using deception. And that would make Auzer a fake.

If anyone has a third scenario, I'd like to hear it.


Precisely…………as if anybody gives a rat’s ass about his disdain for Christianity. If that’s his pet peeve, he should take it elsewhere. If he dislikes Christianity, most us in here (certainly me included) don’t bloody well care. I am here neither to promote nor to damn Christianity, or any other ideology for that matter.. That is not the focus of this forum.

I don't give a fiddler's fart about Shoebat either. That is just more diversionary propaganda. Even if what his detractors say is 100% true, it doesn't change one iota the scumbag POS that was the prophet. Muslims like Ghaith seem to entertain the fantasy that by making somebody else look bad, they can somehow make their man whore prophet look good. There simply does not exist, nor has there any been, any person on this earth against whom the prophet could possibly look good by comparison. He ranks right up there with the worst arch criminals of history.

Auzer is either a muslim trying to start a diversionary agenda in here by trashing something in order to try to make islam look good, or he is an agnostic with his head stuck up his ass. I think it's the former, which means that his head is stuck up his ass no matter what it is.
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)
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Re: is Walid Shoebat a fake?

Postby StrongLove » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:07 pm

islam deals in absolutes. It can not be changed or reformed. This is one of many reasons that it has such a retarding affect on individuals & societies.
" The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men."

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Re: is Walid Shoebat a fake?

Postby pr126 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:09 am

Auzer wrote:
Well OFFCOURSE I'm a Muslim "sympathizer" ... I sympathize with Muslims and want them to reform for their better future...and for the better future of our world... Haven't I made myself clear?

If Auzer had just a superficial knowledge of Islamic theology, he would realize that ANY change is an impossibility.
The Quran explicitly guards against tampering.
That is why the Quran is declared the word of Allah, and that cannot be changed, altered, discarded or ignored.
That would be blasphemy, punishable by death. That is why Muslims go apeshit when someone mistreats their precious book idol.

According to Muslims, Islam is perfect in every way.
By asking Muslims to "reform" is saying that Islam is not perfect in it's present form. Who is right? Muslims or Auzer?

Furthermore, in the present climate of Islamist ascendancy, the revival of Islamic supremacy, any of his ideas will be met with scorn and ridicule, if not hostility.

When Islam is weak, as it was after WWI, it will lay low, waiting for an opportunity, no matter how long it takes.
This has arrived with the discovery of oil (by infidels) and the money started pouring in for the oil, currently $17 Trillion since the 1970's.
That opportunity has arrived, and Islam is taking advantage of it, and it will exploit that to the full.
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Re: is Walid Shoebat a fake?

Postby Fernando » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:04 pm

Ghaith wrote:Yayha show has already exposed his son on the low low knowledge he has about Islam.
I'd have thought that made him a typical Muslim, then. Most of them can't even understand, let alone read, the language of the Koran. They just soak up what bits the preachers and activists want them to.
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