Sexual slavery in Islam

[frankie]

Sexual slavery is "divinely mandated" in the Islamic belief system, and is alive, well and prospering in the U.K.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/shoc ... -in-the-uk

Shame on you Muslims belonging to this insidious faith, which brings your morals lower than animals.

[Fernando]

Some interesting observations here:http://www.newenglishreview.org/Emmet_Scott/The_African_Slave_Trade:_The_Islamic_Connection/

The majority of such slaves taken were young boys and these were invariably castrated. The adult males who did not suffer this fate were consigned to a life of perpetual backbreaking labour as galley slaves or miners, without the comfort of female company. The situation with female slaves however was very different: virtually all of these were employed as house-maids and concubines, and the great majority would at some stage have had children, or at least become pregnant. What happened to these children is one of the darkest secrets of Islamic history. Taking everything into account, there can be no doubt that great numbers of them were killed by their fathers, since no other explanation is forthcoming. It is a curious fact that a topic as explosive as this has been very sparsely investigated by academics and journalists, though the following excerpt from the New York Daily Times of 1856 shows it to be a subject periodically noted by Western observers over the centuries. “In Constantinople it is evident that there is a very large number of negresses living and having habitual intercourse with their Turkish masters – yet it is a rare thing to see a mulatto [someone of mixed Negro-Caucasian race]. What becomes of the progeny of such intercourse? I have no hesitation in saying that it is got rid of by infanticide, and that there is hardly a family in Stanboul where infanticide is not practiced in such cases as a mere matter of course, and without the least remorse or dread.” (“Horrible Traffic in Circassian Women – Infanticide in Turkey” New York Daily Times, August 6, 1856, p. 6)

Other reports from the nineteenth century speak of middle aged and elderly African women, half-mad with grief and despair, roaming the streets of Constantinople begging for bread after being ejected by their Turkish owners. The same type of scene was repeated in cities throughout the Muslim world over the centuries, and illustrates the virulent racism was historically part and parcel of the Muslim and Arab mentality.

[manfred]

fernando this is the stuff nightmares are made of... There are other parts of the Arab world were there are in fact what appear to be black minorities, for example in Morocco this is quite a common thing. Are there mostly new arrivals or were the offspring of slaves allowed to live there?

[ISLAM_rules]

hippocritt!!!

In Islam Allah allow MUSLIM ONLY to have slave, but he must keep them look after. That is Muslim do, if they have slave. They are ALWAYS kind, and look after, because so says noble Quran.

White people steel black peoople from their home beat them kill them sex slave them, and eat them.

Frankie like burning black people on cross and have BBQ with beer.

And then white people write lie about Muslim. We must fight until no more fitna.

[ISLAM_rules]

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[Fernando]

fernando this is the stuff nightmares are made of... There are other parts of the Arab world were there are in fact what appear to be black minorities, for example in Morocco this is quite a common thing. Are there mostly new arrivals or were the offspring of slaves allowed to live there?

Sorry Manfred, I don't know. My main concern is that many black people in the USA seem to have adopted Islam recently in ignorance of how their enslaved ancestors came to be there in the first place.

[Fernando]

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Where Allah sends people who make such disgusting threats: the Garbage Can.

[frankie]

hippocritt!!!

In Islam Allah allow MUSLIM ONLY to have slave, but he must keep them look after. That is Muslim do, if they have slave. They are ALWAYS kind, and look after, because so says noble Quran.

White people steel black peoople from their home beat them kill them sex slave them, and eat them.

Frankie like burning black people on cross and have BBQ with beer.

And then white people write lie about Muslim. We must fight until no more fitna.

Islam rules:

Any god worthy of the title god does not need human beings to fight and kill other human being in his name, as god is a spiritual entity which requires spiritual weapons to help defeat spiritual evil.

Because Mohammed was a false prophet he did not understand this concept, and used what all worldly tyrants use, which is terrorism, to control peoples minds and bodies, to bring them to accept his invention he called Islam.

The only difference with Mohammed he used his pagan idol Allah as the excuse to use Islamic armies to fight and kill people in the name of his god, to gain worldly weath,i.e.booty,pocessions of the people he murdered, and the remaining women and children he turned into sexual slaves, to be used and abused by himself and his fellow bandits.

The question you need to answer is, why are you defending the actions of this murderer, who wants all humanity to submit to his "greatest" Arabian pagan idol, Allah.

[Nosuperstition]

He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes God’s right and his master’s right will get a double reward.”

https://www.whyislam.org/women-in-islam/the-importance-of-girls-education-in-islam/

Education in general improves critical thinking and people will get the right mind to analyse things with their own individual perspective.No wonder Hindus who once considered uneducated fellas as strange animals closed the doors of education to the female gender when they were under attack by Muslims around 700 A.D to 1200 A.D to ensure continuity of their race and as on today Mullahs of Afghanistan kill female pupils seeking education and discourage female education inspite of the presence of the above verse.Or may be the stress on education is only for the sex slaves and not for already Islamised Muslimmahs.

[manfred]

And the double reward is: when you sell her you get double the money.... it seems even in the most obnoxious things Muslims find a reward for themselves....

An Islamic "education" really does wonders for critical thinking. We have had a great many examples of that on this forum even.

[Nosuperstition]

An Islamic "education" really does wonders for critical thinking. We have had a great many examples of that on this forum even.

Muslim pupils used to get an education even in the Greek and Hindu classics and philosophies when they ruled over India.So no wonder they would have developed critical thinking.The more educated one becomes,the lesser is the possibility of them believing in dogmas or hard and fast rules of the religion and the more they are likely to become hedonists interested in the pleasures of this very world.Hence the lesser is the likelihood of them sacrificing themselves for the sake of believing in stupid dogmas unless they are offended very strongly in their minds due to supposed injustices meted out to them.

[manfred]

Philosophy is expressly forbidden in Islam.

[Nosuperstition]

fernando this is the stuff nightmares are made of... There are other parts of the Arab world were there are in fact what appear to be black minorities, for example in Morocco this is quite a common thing. Are there mostly new arrivals or were the offspring of slaves allowed to live there?

Sorry Manfred, I don't know. My main concern is that many black people in the USA seem to have adopted Islam recently in ignorance of how their enslaved ancestors came to be there in the first place.

There are many mulattoes in the sub-continent both amongst Hindus and Muslims.So how can one say that Muslims in general do not allow the offspring of blacks and whites to flourish?

[Nosuperstition]

Philosophy is expressly forbidden in Islam.

This probably explains why Barani could devote fourteen pages to an account of the scholars, poets, preachers, philosophers, physicians, astronomers, and historians who thronged Delhi in the days of Ala-ud-din Khalji.

The Muslim rulers of Bengal engaged scholars to translate the Ramayana and the Mahabharata into Bengali. Maladhar Vasu translated the Bhagavata Purana into Bengali under the patronage of Sultan Husain Shah (r. 1493–1518), and Chuti Khan, governor of Chittagong, employed Srikara Nadi to translate parts of the Asvamedha Parva of the Mahabharata into Bengali. In Kashmir, Hindu literature and philosophy were studied enthusiastically at the court of Zain-ul-Abidin (1420–1470)

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00islamlinks/ikram/part1_08.html

Islam was not as monolith as it is today back then.How can one assume all muslims had always been violent bigoted animals.

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17237&hilit=crows

At best they would have tried to create brainwashed next generation kids amongst converted Hindus and migrated muslims. Just like present day evangelicals use scientific procedures such as hypnotism in third world countries to create cultish fervent religious people crying with joy feeling as though the supposed holy spirit had really descended upon them.

[manfred]

Just like present day evangelicals use scientific procedures such as hypnotism in third world countries to create cultish fervent religious people crying with joy feeling as though the supposed holy spirit had really descended upon them.

You forgot to mention they eat babies and little kitten too, and you did not say how you would like to kill them all.

As to your article about the "enlightened" wonderfully educated Mughals, don't be ridiculous. The tiny window of Islamic openness had long gone by then.

http://ebooks.rahnuma.org/religion/Orie ... 20Mind.pdf

[Fernando]

As to your article about the "enlightened" wonderfully educated Mughals, don't be ridiculous. The tiny window of Islamic openness had long gone by then.

http://ebooks.rahnuma.org/religion/Orie ... 20Mind.pdf

Thanks for the link, Manfred. One more for my reading list!

[Nosuperstition]

Just like present day evangelicals use scientific procedures such as hypnotism in third world countries to create cultish fervent religious people crying with joy feeling as though the supposed holy spirit had really descended upon them.

You forgot to mention they eat babies and little kitten too, and you did not say how you would like to kill them all.

Religion is an emotional opiate that blurrs the intellect of normal human beings and don't get me wrong,I am very well aware that just like a drug addict or an alcoholic addict would even not hesitate to kill others in order to continue his/her addiction,religious addicts too will not hesitate to go to any lengths to continue and if possible even get some more people addicted.

As to your article about the "enlightened" wonderfully educated Mughals, don't be ridiculous. The tiny window of Islamic openness had long gone by then.

The article I mentioned pertains to muslims of periods earlier to the Mughals when they by their own admission were just a tiny drop in an ocean of Hindus and hence had to be pragmatic.By the time of Mughals,their population increased and hence there was no need to further study philosophical things that go against the dogmas of the religion.

[manfred]

Religion Hatred is an emotional opiate that blurrs the intellect of normal human beings and don't get me wrong,I am very well aware that just like a drug addict or an alcoholic addict would even not hesitate to kill others in order to continue his/her addiction,religious hate addicts too will not hesitate to go to any lengths to continue and if possible even get some more people addicted.

There you are, all fixed. And it really seems you are talking about yourself and to yourself.

[Nosuperstition]

Religion Hatred is an emotional opiate that blurrs the intellect of normal human beings and don't get me wrong,I am very well aware that just like a drug addict or an alcoholic addict would even not hesitate to kill others in order to continue his/her addiction,religious hate addicts too will not hesitate to go to any lengths to continue and if possible even get some more people addicted.

There you are, all fixed. And it really seems you are talking about yourself and to yourself.

No If I had that degree of hatred from within when I was not mature enough,I would not have matured to the calm and well-composed individual that I am today.'Hate the sin,not the sinner' is quite profound.However when Yohan says that once you have hatred in heart,it is easy to turn that form of hatred to someother form of hatred or that hatred against someone/entity to hatred against someother person/entity,he seemed to have spoken the truth.So it is easy to turn hate of Sin into hatred of sinner.Not at all that difficult considering that there is a long list of sins of pagans along with a long list of sins committed by other Christians.

[Nosuperstition]

Well, personally prefer to eat lizards that I have caught over stolen things

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=15690&p=204443&hilit=lizards#p204443

See you hate the sin of stealing land and treasures belonging to others so much so that all Arabs of that period stand guilty of stealing other people's things from your own perspective.

Similarly when the devoutly Catholic Polish wanted independance from Russia,they sure would have hated Russians along with the sin of the Russians which is forcible imposition of their language by prescribing death penalty to those that teach Polish.Can you say that they had become any less Christian due that hatred?