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Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:49 am
by Robert

Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:25 am
by Wootah
I really don't understand Muslims.

Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:45 am
by Sten
Erm, I don't know if the poster of this video realizes this, but self-immolation is quite a common method of suicide for girls in heavily Islamic countries. I must admit that her contradicting claims about her niece's age are suspicious. It's possible, but unlikely that someone would forget a detail like that.

Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:23 am
by Islambyme
Self-immolation is tolerated by some elements of Mahayana Buddhism and Hinduism, and it has been practiced for many centuries, especially in India, for various reasons, including Sati, political protest, devotion, and renouncement. Certain warrior cultures, such as in the Charans and Rajputs, also practiced self-immolation. An article entitled History of Religions, written by Jan Yiin-Hua, investigates the medieval Chinese Buddhist precedents for self-immolation.[4]

Relying exclusively on authoritative Chinese Buddhist texts and, through the use of these texts, interpreting such acts exclusively in terms of doctrines and beliefs (e.g., self-immolation, much like an extreme renunciant might abstain from food until dying, could be an example of disdain for the body in favor of the life of the mind and wisdom) rather than in terms of their socio-political and historical context, the article allows its readers to interpret these deaths as acts that refer only to a distinct set of beliefs that happen to be foreign to the non-Buddhist.[4]

During the Great Schism of the Russian Church, entire villages of Old Believers burned themselves to death in an act known as "fire baptism".[5] Scattered instances of self-immolation have also been recorded by the Jesuit priests of France in the early 17th century. Their practice of this was not intended to be fatal, though. They would burn certain parts of their bodies (limbs such as the forearm or the thigh) to signify the pain Jesus endured while upon the cross. A 1973 study by a prison doctor suggested that people who choose self-immolation as a form of suicide are more likely to be in a "disturbed state of consciousness", such as epilepsy.[6]

Source - wikipedia

So, this not common Islamic and certainly not limited to 'heavily islamic countries' . And there are only 14 reported cases and it is during this turmoil of government overthrowing. What ever you find a Muslim do, you point fingers at Islam, Allah swt, or Muhammad pbuh. This is the common trend of pointing fingers to irrelevant parties and blaming others.

Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:14 pm
by Robert
Setting themselves on fire is the only perceived means of protest for many women in Afghanistan. Cases of self immolation are on the increase.








Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:31 pm
by Robert
And concerning the different ages: Couldn't that be due to the different calendar systems, The Islamic Lunar calendar and the western Gregorian calendar?

Also see:

http://www.islamicfinder.org/Hcal/index.php

Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:18 am
by piscohot
people who have many nieces and nephews usually will have such problems with remembering their exact ages.
could be the case with Wafa Sultan

Re: Muslim tries to prove Wafa Sultan to be a liar

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:12 am
by Sten
piscohot wrote:people who have many nieces and nephews usually will have such problems with remembering their exact ages.
could be the case with Wafa Sultan


that is a plausible explanation