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Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:43 pm
by yeezevee
: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

well Pakistan has variety of people with women getting treated in different ways.., But that is true to every country. Pakistan problem is mullahs putting their Islam in the throats & minds of 15 to 25 year old jobless youth.. and to do that Pakistan has variety of colored beards



WHAT ALL NEEDED TO CHANGE THE HEARTS & MINDS OF PEOPLE IS proper education.. education & education...




Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:20 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
iffo wrote:
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:

No he's not. In the religious capital of Islam, Mecca and Saudi Arabia, children's school textbooks claim Jews are from Apes and Pigs. It's right in their very textbooks. That's a fact Iffo. Quit lying, it's disgusting.


No you are wrong, it was about one incident when they were turned into Apes. Not that all Jews are apes


It's in their school textbooks Iffo.

iffo wrote:@Rajput, we mind our own business but you don't, putting news stories and try to give image that Pakies treat women bad while you are 10 times worst rapping girls day and night.


That's "raping" you cretin. :lol: Rapping is what black musicians do.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:24 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
yeezevee wrote:: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

well Pakistan has variety of people with women getting treated in different ways.., But that is true to every country. Pakistan problem is mullahs putting their Islam in the throats & minds of 15 to 25 year old jobless youth.


Yes, it is the religious people that are the problem and troublemakers. How come? Could it be that they behave as Islam asks them to behave? Where do they get their ideas and attitudes from?

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:38 am
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
iffo wrote:
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:

No he's not. In the religious capital of Islam, Mecca and Saudi Arabia, children's school textbooks claim Jews are from Apes and Pigs. It's right in their very textbooks. That's a fact Iffo. Quit lying, it's disgusting.


No you are wrong, it was about one incident when they were turned into Apes. Not that all Jews are apes


It's in their school textbooks Iffo.

iffo wrote:@Rajput, we mind our own business but you don't, putting news stories and try to give image that Pakies treat women bad while you are 10 times worst rapping girls day and night.


That's "raping" you cretin. :lol: Rapping is what black musicians do.


what's so funny, don't you know by now that English is not my first language ............... Ulu kha patha.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:30 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
iffo wrote:
what's so funny, don't you know by now that English is not my first language ............... Ulu kha patha.


Then you need a Catholic school nun. She'll teach you English alright. She'll beat it out of you :lol:

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Here's a joke you might like.

What does a cue ball and a Paki have in common??
The harder you hit 'em, the more english you get out of 'em. :shock: :lol:

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:23 am
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
iffo wrote:
what's so funny, don't you know by now that English is not my first language ............... Ulu kha patha.


Then you need a Catholic school nun. She'll teach you English alright. She'll beat it out of you :lol:

Image

Here's a joke you might like.

What does a cue ball and a Paki have in common??
The harder you hit 'em, the more english you get out of 'em. :shock: :lol:


Your choice of jokes is very bad. Here is a joke about you
You might be a redneck if...


You keep a can of Raid on the kitchen table.

You've ever used a toilet seat as a picture frame.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:08 pm
by Yohan
yeezevee wrote:
Yohan wrote:Theoritically you are right, but practically Muslims in the subcontinent have a caste system that parallels the Hindus, and discriminate against low caste converts to Islam. It is not a rigid system as Hindus have. Low caste Muslim can easily marry into high caste Muslim if one is wealthy . You know better and do not lie! It is also true that Hindu caste system is the worst, and upper caste Hindus abuse lower castes.
That is an interesting point Yohan., I wonder whether you can elaborate on that a bit. Questions are..
1). How many casts are there in India and how are they graded?? sure it must be different from North India to South India.. & East India to West India...

A lot about the Indian caste system had been debated in the old forum. You may look through them. I also once posted a long article on the caste system of the subcontinental Muslims.

The Muslim caste system is essentially based upon foreign origin like Arabs, Persians, Turks and so on. Those who claim such origins claim upper caste status. Muslims who claim high caste Hindu ancestry also claim high caste Muslim status. Low caste Hindus who converted to Islam are low caste Muslims. That being said, low castes do claim the caste ladder by being rich and by marrying into the ones who claim upper caste, since Islam is casteless. Overall, this Muslim caste system is bogus since only 1 to 2% of the total Indian population by numbers came in as outside Muslims (almost all men) to settle in the subcontinent, while some 30% of the population are Muslims. These men married lower Hindu caste women to begin with. It is fashionable to claim foreign muslim ancestry, lie neverthless. You can see our 'iffo' claiming foreign Mughal ancestry.

There are far fewer Dalits in Pakistan compared to India in percentage, mainly because they had been converting to Islam in the region, and getting absorbed slowly into all Muslim caste levels for centuries. Same in Bangladesh too. Muslims with remote Dalit blood would always claim some upper caste ancestry, and over time get accepted.

Caste social behavior among the subcontinentals is an exciting topic. All of them regardless of religion, play down the topic in public but play it up in private, Hindus more so than others.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:45 pm
by yeezevee
Yohan wrote:
yeezevee wrote:
Yohan wrote:.....................

Caste social behavior among the subcontinentals is an exciting topic. All of them regardless of religion, play down the topic in public but play it up in private, Hindus more so than others.
that red colored words are interesting.,
Religious of india

year wise % ........ 1961........ 1971 ........ 1981........ 1991........ 2001
Hindu........ 83.45% ........ 82.73% ........ 82.30% ........ 81.53%........ 80.46%
Muslim ........ 10.69% ........ 11.21%........ 11.75% ........ 12.61%........ 13.43%
Christian ........ 2.44% ........ 2.60% ........ 2.44% ........ 2.32%........ 2.34%
Sikh ........ 1.79%........ 1.89%........ 1.92% ........ 1.94% ........ 1.87%
Buddhist ........ 0.74%........ 0.70%........ 0.70% ........ 0.77%........ 0.77%
Animist, others ........ 0.43% ........ 0.41% ........ 0.42%........ 0.44%........ 0.72%
Jain ........ 0.46% ........ 0.48%........ 0.47%........ 0.40% ........ 0.41%


I wonder how this Caste system place a role in rich & poor in a given caste., is it easy for rich low caste people to move in to upper caste and have high social status in India??

Any ways going to back women folk in Land of pure and India[url= to day's Dawn gives a picture of terrible contrast

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India, governed only in cities and towns

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The true victims of religious extremism

read it all at those links.. I guess it is same in villages all over Indian subcontinent...

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:09 pm
by Yohan
yeezevee wrote:I wonder how this Caste system place a role in rich & poor in a given caste., is it easy for rich low caste people to move in to upper caste and have high social status in India??

Any ways going to back women folk in Land of pure and India[url= to day's Dawn gives a picture of terrible contrast

read it all at those links.. I guess it is same in villages all over Indian subcontinent...

Among Hindus, one could say there are prosperous people now in all castes, but their proportions go way down the lower one goes castewise. Caste discrimination is mostly now in private matters. But in rural areas, it is an entirely different matter, more similar to what was decades earlier. Not much has changed. In Hinduism caste system is a relgious edict, so intercaste movements are almost impossible at a personal level, though it could be achieved at a group (caste group) level by taking efforts to move up a notch. This could take a few generations. An example at personal level is that one Dalit was a recent president of India, but he was always called the Dalit President. Also there are exceptions now when people marry for love across caste lines, but these are always between not that dissimilar castes. For non-Hindus, caste is cultural, not religious, an old baggage, and so easier to break its rules and to move up using ones wealth.

Pakistan has used the prophet's life as a model for the country, and that goes for the treatment of its women too. When enlightened Pakistanis complain about the mistreatment of their women, they need to remember that they are also complaining about their own prophet. Now that is blasphemy! In India, the mistreatment is more cultural than religious, and not as bad as in Pakistan.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:03 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
yeezevee wrote:Image


I thought scary ghosts were supposed to wear WHITE sheets. :lol:

Hey.....!! Who's that one with the brown burqa???? Is that Rosa Parks??

He looks like a shepherd beating his sheep to keep them in a circle. Or maybe it's his cattle. Or maybe it doesn't really make a difference either way. We can call them his "widgets".

OK kids, time for your daily beating.

I'd love to be a woman's fashion designer in Afghanistan. I'd only have to design one design and I'd be all set and all the women would forced to buy it. :lol:

Apparently, nobody told them that their bedsheets are supposed to remain on their beds.

Looks like Cousin It has a lot of relatives in Afghanistan

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Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:54 am
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
yeezevee wrote:Image


I thought scary ghosts were supposed to wear WHITE sheets. :lol:

Hey.....!! Who's that one with the brown burqa???? Is that Rosa Parks??

He looks like a shepherd beating his sheep to keep them in a circle. Or maybe it's his cattle. Or maybe it doesn't really make a difference either way. We can call them his "widgets".

OK kids, time for your daily beating.

I'd love to be a woman's fashion designer in Afghanistan. I'd only have to design one design and I'd be all set and all the women would forced to buy it. :lol:

Apparently, nobody told them that their bedsheets are supposed to remain on their beds.

Looks like Cousin It has a lot of relatives in Afghanistan

Image


You should be ashamed of yourself calling women ghosts who are oppressed by Taliban dogs. These women are someone's sister , someone's daughter .. and someone's mother ................... be nice

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:25 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
iffo wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself calling women ghosts who are oppressed by Taliban dogs. These women are someone's sister , someone's daughter .. and someone's mother ................... be nice


Sung to the tune of The Flintstones

Muslims
Meet the Muslims
They're the modern stone age family

From the
Town of Kabul
They're a page right out of history

Let's ride
With the men who wear a sheet
Long beards
Smelly sandals on their feet.

When your
With the Muslims
Have an allahallahu time
A bababoom time
You'll have a slay old time!!!


Hey Iffo, do you wear one of the Pakistani "man dresses"?

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:42 pm
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
iffo wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself calling women ghosts who are oppressed by Taliban dogs. These women are someone's sister , someone's daughter .. and someone's mother ................... be nice


Sung to the tune of The Flintstones

Muslims
Meet the Muslims
They're the modern stone age family

From the
Town of Kabul
They're a page right out of history

Let's ride
With the men who wear a sheet
Long beards
Smelly sandals on their feet.

When your
With the Muslims
Have an allahallahu time
A bababoom time
You'll have a slay old time!!!


Hey Iffo, do you wear one of the Pakistani "man dresses"?


Well this is irrelevant what I wear. What I am saying you better respect and sympathize with women who are oppressed, rather than making fun of them ......
I understand you love men and are crazy about them, but atleast give respect to women.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:52 pm
by HomerJay
iffo wrote:
Well this is irrelevant what I wear. What I am saying you better respect and sympathize with women who are oppressed, rather than making fun of them ......
I understand you love men and are crazy about them, but atleast give respect to women.


I'm pretty sure that is what all the anti-Islam people here are trying to do. Do you really think Iffo, that those poor women would still be wearing those garbage bags and getting whipped by their masters/husbands if it weren't for Islam? Can you see that sort of behavior from any OTHER religion/society in the world? I agree with you that the quran does not expressly force Muslim women to wear those disgusting things, but it sure does permit the husband to use that stick he has in his hand if he "fears rebellion".

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:58 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
iffo wrote:
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
iffo wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself calling women ghosts who are oppressed by Taliban dogs. These women are someone's sister , someone's daughter .. and someone's mother ................... be nice


Sung to the tune of The Flintstones

Muslims
Meet the Muslims
They're the modern stone age family

From the
Town of Kabul
They're a page right out of history

Let's ride
With the men who wear a sheet
Long beards
Smelly sandals on their feet.

When your
With the Muslims
Have an allahallahu time
A bababoom time
You'll have a slay old time!!!


Hey Iffo, do you wear one of the Pakistani "man dresses"?


Well this is irrelevant what I wear. What I am saying you better respect and sympathize with women who are oppressed, rather than making fun of them ......
I understand you love men and are crazy about them, but atleast give respect to women.


Why don't you instead spend your time railing against your fellow Muslims who do this rather than me?? Duh. I don't make them wear a burqa, your fellow Muslims do.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:01 am
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
Why don't you instead spend your time railing against your fellow Muslims who do this rather than me?? Duh. I don't make them wear a burqa, your fellow Muslims do.



Actually I do talk against those fellow muslims who do that, they are assholes ............ that does not mean what you doing making fun of them is right........... both are wrong ........ remember it was same bigotry and prejudice attitude for which they kicked you out from British Ex-muslim forum. They got an idea very quick that guy was a bigot.

@HomerJay
This [edit]no.no. no...[/edit] in the pic is not even their husband, this is just pure disrespect and Afghan illiteracy in action.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:22 am
by Muhammad bin Lyin
iffo wrote:
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
Why don't you instead spend your time railing against your fellow Muslims who do this rather than me?? Duh. I don't make them wear a burqa, your fellow Muslims do.



Actually I do talk against those fellow muslims who do that, they are assholes ............ that does not mean what you doing making fun of them is right........... both are wrong ........ remember it was same bigotry and prejudice attitude for which they kicked you out from British Ex-muslim forum. They got an idea very quick that guy was a bigot.


They kicked me out because of my avatar. And actually, they never even kicked me out, they warned me. Would you like me to post there and send you the link?? Silly little cotton candy eating boy. I don't bother to post there because, quite frankly, the place stinks and they are too uptight. If they don't have a sense of humor, I want nothing to do with them. I can't stand self important people who take themselves way too seriously.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:19 am
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
iffo wrote:
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
Why don't you instead spend your time railing against your fellow Muslims who do this rather than me?? Duh. I don't make them wear a burqa, your fellow Muslims do.



Actually I do talk against those fellow muslims who do that, they are assholes ............ that does not mean what you doing making fun of them is right........... both are wrong ........ remember it was same bigotry and prejudice attitude for which they kicked you out from British Ex-muslim forum. They got an idea very quick that guy was a bigot.


They kicked me out because of my avatar. And actually, they never even kicked me out, they warned me. Would you like me to post there and send you the link?? Silly little cotton candy eating boy. I don't bother to post there because, quite frankly, the place stinks and they are too uptight. If they don't have a sense of humor, I want nothing to do with them. I can't stand self important people who take themselves way too seriously.


Well you got banned there for a while because of your making fun of people beards, basically same prejudice attitude .......... Anyway at this point I would like you to aplogize for making fun of others' mothers and sisters

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:12 pm
by Muhammad bin Lyin
iffo wrote:Well you got banned there for a while because of your making fun of people beards, basically same prejudice attitude


I never got banned there, I got warned and I left.

iffo wrote: .......... Anyway at this point I would like you to aplogize for making fun of others' mothers and sisters


Nope. Why don't you apologize for following your 20% profit pedo? Do you think the Taliban just makes these ideas up out of thin air?? They are the real Muslims, you're a fake one. At least they have the courage to follow true Islam. I'll give them that. You don't.

Re: Pakistan: This is how Muslims value women!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:57 am
by iffo
Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
iffo wrote:Well you got banned there for a while because of your making fun of people beards, basically same prejudice attitude


I never got banned there, I got warned and I left.

iffo wrote: .......... Anyway at this point I would like you to aplogize for making fun of others' mothers and sisters


Nope. Why don't you apologize for following your 20% profit pedo? Do you think the Taliban just makes these ideas up out of thin air?? They are the real Muslims, you're a fake one. At least they have the courage to follow true Islam. I'll give them that. You don't.


You left the british ex-muslims forum because nobody supported or liked you and your hate mongering there, which you were hoping they would. They told you to either shut up or leave, that's why you don't like them.

Anyway back to tthe topic, since you are making fun of others' mothers you will need to apologize as I don't like anyone make fun of anyone's mother regardless of race or religion. I want you to say this "Iffo I been a dick making fun of women, I apologize kindly please forgive me"