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How ridiculous. :yuk:
St Albans Cathedral will replace traditional Nativity scene featuring Virgin Mary with a painting of the Last Supper featuring a black Jesus in solidarity with Black Lives Matter

A painting of the Last Supper featuring a black Jesus will replace a Nativity scene at St Albans Cathedral to show solidarity with Black Lives Matter.

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The Dean has agreed to install the 9ft piece of artwork on the altar after conceding that the church is in a weak position to preach about racial justice.

Titled A Last Supper, the painting reworks Da Vinci's renowned 15th century mural by casting a Jamaican-born model as Christ.

The announcement came less than a week after the Archbishop of Canterbury urged the Church of England to reconsider its portrayal of Christ as white.

Justin Welby said Christians should also accommodate global depictions of Jesus which show him as black, Chinese and Middle Eastern.

Embracing this philosophy, St Albans Cathedral in Hertfordshire is covering up its existing altarpiece painting with the high-resolution print which challenges 'the Western myth' that Jesus looked European.

It will cover up an untitled three-part painting of a scene from the Nativity, which shows the Virgin Mary and Child flanked by the shepherds and kings, until October.

Lorna May Wadsworth instead paints Christ as Jamaican-born model Tafari Hinds, which she claims is just as accurate as traditional representations.

The acclaimed artist's 2009 piece made headlines last year when it was discovered to have been shot by a pellet gun by someone she believed disagreed by her portrayal of Christ.

Yet undeterred by this brazen act of vandalism, St Albans is putting the painting pride of place to show solidarity with Black Lives Matter.

The Very Reverend Dr Jeffrey John, Dean of St Albans, said: 'The church is not in a strong position to preach to others about justice, racial or otherwise.


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Archbishop of Canterbury says portrayal of Jesus as White should be reconsidered

Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury and head of the Church of England, has said the church should reconsider its portrayal of Jesus as a White man.

Speaking to the BBC Today Programme, Welby was asked whether the way the western church "portrays Jesus" needed to be "thought about again" and "re-imagined" in light of recent Black Lives Matter protests following the death of George Floyd.

"Yes, of course it does," he said, adding that Jesus was portrayed differently in countries around the world. He was regularly in touch with Anglican Church leaders from around the world, he said, who did not portray Jesus as White.

"You go into their churches and you don't see a White Jesus -- you see a Black Jesus, or Chinese Jesus, or a Middle Eastern Jesus -- which is of course the most accurate.

"You see a Fijian Jesus -- you see Jesus portrayed in as many ways as there are cultures, languages and understandings."

Welby added that the representations of Jesus were not, however, "who we worship" but rather served as a "reminder of the universality of the God who became fully human."

Addressing calls for monuments with links to the UK's imperialist history and slave trade to be removed, he said statues in Canterbury Cathedral would be put under review.

"We're going to be looking very carefully, and putting them in context and seeing if they all should be there," he said.

"The question [about whether they should all be there] arises, of course it does, and we've seen that all over the world."

The movement to take down and deface controversial statues has gained traction in the UK, as well as Europe and the US but has divided public opinion -- with critics slamming it as "mob rule" while others applaud it as a way of addressing "systematic racism."
Dear Archbishop of Canterbury. If people in other countries can have a black Jesus, or a Chinese Jesus, why can't we have a white Jesus?
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Dear Archbishop of Canterbury. If people in other countries can have a black Jesus, or a Chinese Jesus, why can't we have a white Jesus?
Because western culture must be erased.
End white supremacy.
End white privilege.
White guilt forever! (at least until "whiteness" is gone).

If we do not protect our culture whose fault will it be when it disappears?

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The BBC is playing along with this too. No surprises there.



In Nazi Germany, the USSR, China the propaganda is free.
In the UK the propaganda is paid by the citizens on pain of imprisonment.
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When the appearance of Jesus is more important than his teachings then they are not replacing a "white Jesus" they are replacing Jesus all together.

The message of Christmas becomes an irrelevance and can be randomly replaced by one about Maundy Thursday or any other thing as the main point is "black man" has become God. The rest is detail.

So kneel, everybody. On Christmas night this year the people of St Alban's will be asked to worship the black man, and to forget God.

The question what Jesus looked like is in itself unanswerable and unimportant. To raise his appearance about even the message of Christmas is in my view a heresy of a particularly vulgar kind.

Why no go the whole distance? Maybe the new Jesus should be "black woman" and look like Dianne Abbot?
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No kidding.

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Yes, why not replace white Jesus with Ethiopian emperor Haile Selassie?

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According to the Rastafarians believe Haile Selassie was the black messiah and reincarnation of Jesus. This way we can all go to church coming Christmas to worship with Yah Yah prayers and smoke a joint (a new source of revenue for the church of course)!
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Attempt to topple Christopher Columbus statue in Chicago’s Grant Park prompts standoff with police, arrests and rebuke of mayor

At least 1,000 people swarmed the Christopher Columbus statue in Grant Park on Friday evening in a failed attempt to topple it after a march turned tense and chaotic when some people began throwing fireworks and cans at the police, who in turn struck members of the crowd with batons.

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Following a rally in support of Black and Indigenous people, hundreds of protesters marched south on Columbus Drive shortly after 7 p.m. Then a person shouted that some Chicago police units, whom they had been trying to separate the crowd from by using bike-wielding citizen “marshals,” had left to protect the statue of the controversial historical figure.

The confrontation resulted in at least 12 arrests, according to the police department. A group of elected officials also released a statement condemning what they said were aggressive tactics used to quell protesters and journalists.

“We unequivocally condemn Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s decision to send the Chicago police to beat, arrest, and terrorize the demonstrators and journalists gathered in Grant Park tonight,” read the statement, released late Friday.

It was signed by Alderwoman Jeanette Taylor, Alderwoman Rossana Rodriguez Sanchez, Alderman Byron Sigcho Lopez, Alderman Carlos Ramirez Rosa, State Rep. Representative Delia Ramirez, democratic nominee LaKesia Collins and State Sen. Robert Peters.

Dozens of people in the crowd who were clad in all-black clothing rushed the nearby statue, surrounding the short stone wall that circled it. Some began throwing objects, such as cans and fireworks, at the officers. A few people tried to climb over the wall and were met with officers smacking their batons at them.

“This is not the way! ... We don’t want them to shoot us,” a man shouted to the group throwing items. He was told by someone in the crowd to back off.

Soon, the police were pushed back, and dozens of people climbed over the wall, wading through the thinning smoke from earlier fireworks and other incendiary devices. Someone scaled the statue and caught a rope that was tossed up from the crowd, beginning about a half-hour-long attempt to yank down the statue.

At one point, demonstrators held onto two lines of rope attached to the statue as the crowd cheered on, “Columbus was a murderer. Columbus was a thief.”

By 7:40 p.m., police reinforcements had arrived at the scene, leading to a standoff in front of the statue. They were joined later by more officers, who soon released an aerosol that stung the eyes of the crowd and led to some coughing in tears. Police forced out those inside the wall surrounding the statue and circled the perimeter.

As officers moved down the hill, they pushed aside the bike-wielding protesters trying to stop them, sometimes whipping out batons or shoving the bicycles at them. The standoff shifted to north of the statue, as the crowd, still out-numbering the cops, began clapping in unison despite having a few hundred people leave by that point.

A heavy influx of police officers around the area pushed protesters away from the statue by 8:30 p.m., according to a livestream from WBBM-Ch.2.

About 18 officers were injured, some of whom were treated at the scene and others at area hospitals, Chicago police spokesman Thomas Ahern said. About a dozen people were arrested and face pending charges ranging from battery to a police officer to mob action, Ahern said. He said the aerosol used by officers was pepper spray.

“Officers were there to not only protect the property, but they were to ensure the safety of the protestors and their First Amendment right to protest peacefully when the crowd turned on the police, literally ambushed the police with all their projectiles,” Ahern said.

At least five civilians were hospitalized from the area, Chicago Fire Department spokesman Larry Langford said.

Though the statue remained standing by the time the crowd left, it and the surrounding wall were sheathed in overlapping anti-police graffiti messages.

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The Columbus statues in Grant Park and the city’s Little Italy neighborhood have been the source of recent controversy and targets for vandalism. Mayor Lori Lightfoot has said she doesn’t want them taken down, but instead used to help educate people about “the full history” of the U.S.
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Christopher Columbus statues taken down at 2 Chicago parks
A statue of Christopher Columbus in downtown Chicago’s Grant Park was taken down early Friday, a week after protesters trying to topple the monument to the Italian explorer clashed with police.

Crews used a large crane to remove the statue from its pedestal as a small crowd gathered to watch. The crowd cheered and passing cars honked as the statue came down about 3 a.m. Several work trucks were seen in the area, but it was unclear where the statue would be taken.

A second statue of Columbus was also removed about 5:30 a.m. Friday from Arrigo Park in Chicago’s Little Italy neighborhood.
Why???? Because....
“This statue coming down is because of the effort of Black and Indigenous activists who know the true history of Columbus and what he represents,” Stefan Cuevas-Caizaguano, a resident watching the removal, told the Chicago Sun-Times.

Both the Grant Park and Arrigo Park statues were vandalized last month. Statues of Columbus have also been toppled or vandalized in other U.S. cities as protesters have called for the removal of statues of Columbus, saying that he is responsible for the genocide and exploitation of native peoples in the Americas.

Pasquale Gianni of the Joint Civic Committee of Italian Americans said the mayor had told him before their removal that both statues would be moved and temporarily housed elsewhere for public safety reasons.

“The Italian American community feels betrayed. The Mayor’s Office is giving into a vocal and destructive minority. This is not how the Democratic process is supposed to work,” he told WLS-TV.
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Erasing history.

Ministry of Truth. Down the memory hole. Winston Smith at work.
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The current Marxist ideology which is social justice, identity politics, feminism, racism, LGBTQ, and all the other social isms that were invented by the critical theorist in the Frankfurt school and new isms are emerging daily.

A cultural revolution. IMO a dangerous mind virus.

Let's see who are excluded and who are included in this cultural nihilism.

Africa, Arabia, Islamic countries (57 nations), China, South and Central America, India, Middle East, Malaysia, Russia, Asia, and the Far east are excluded. They are simply do not exist for the cultural Marxist.
Which is the majority of the world population. The oppressed.

Whom is included?
North America, Europe, Australia New zealand. Where western culture prevails. The opressors.

What does this tell you? Is this equality for all or just for a selected few? Marxist for example.
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This is the statue in San Francisco of Cervantes, the author of Don Quixote as it looks today...



This man was a slave in Algiers and also in Istanbul, for many years, before some of his relatives located him and bought his freedom. So why is he a "bastard"? Why the red paint symbolic of blood?

It seems his crime is he had white skin....
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