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manfred wrote:A link would be useful, SAM.

Now let's have a look. There are several issues here:
a) we have an accusation without evidence:
It used a humanitarian-aid program in Nicaragua in the 1980s to hide $27 million in weapons for right-wing groups fighting a leftist government.
"It" is referring to the US government. Where is the evidence? What we need is a report showing us US weapons discovered hidden in humanitarian aid, and evidence that this was in fact ordered or arranged by the US government. Also, given that humanitarian aid would normally distributed by local government officials, not rebels, this sound a tall tale to me, because it would be a very stupid way to smuggle weapons, but perhaps you have evidence?

b) we have an opinion:
The U.S. effort to distribute tons of food and medicine to needy Venezuelans is more than just a humanitarian mission.
This is the view of the writer, and therefore no evidence for anything. If the US had not provided aid, there would of course also be accusations, so this is not a valid argument.

c) we have a generalisation:
humanitarian aid and support peacekeeping operations in Africa are also often used to smuggle weapons.
This is a general statement of a view, without any support of facts and figures. It does not say anything at all about he US doing anything. It merely suggests, without evidence, that something happens "often".


So I am not impressed by the evidence, but thank you for making an effort anyway. Perhaps you have a follow up to address these issues I mentioned?


We do have an odd contradiction though, if you think about it, SAM.... on one hand you complained about the US blocking humanitarian aid to Iran, which turns out to be not the case, and on the other, you say Iran neither should nor would accept any such aid anyway.

If it would not be accepted then why even talk about if the US wants to send any or not? The answer is that the Iranian government plays politics with this crisis and does not care if this causes deaths in Iran.
Your mental illness, no matter how hard the evidence is, you will not accept it. Your hatred of Islam makes you reject any evidence in front of you. :yuk:
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Try me SAM, and actually bring some evidence. I am merely applying to you the same standard I would use for myself and anybody else.

I just saw a post from eagle, your Muslim friend, stating categorically that I have become a Muslim. Well, if he says so, it must be true, right?
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Sweden: Elderly should not be prioritized for intensive care in a crisis

An official document that was obtained by the Swedish press from the Karolinska University Hospital system in Stockholm reveals that the institution wants its doctors to deprioritize care for elderly patients if an emergency arises during the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.

The document, which was issued to the hospital’s doctors, is based on guidelines drawn up by Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare on how to deal with situations that might arise where there are more patients than there are spaces in Sweden’s Intensive Care Units (ICUs) as a result of the pandemic. The document has been reproduced in a report by Aftonbladet.

The document’s guidelines advise medical personnel not to admit patients over the age of 80 into intensive care when there are limited spaces during a crisis. They further recommend that those over 70 who are experiencing “significant organ failure” in more than one organ should not be admitted, as well as those over 60 who have failure in more than two organs. This would impact those with heart, lung, and/or kidney disease.

The hospital also advised that those who fit into any of these categories who are already in intensive care should be removed from it if a crisis situation arises, in order to make space for others with a better chance of survival. The same would hold true for those who experience organ failure while they are undergoing treatment in an ICU.

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Moreover, the document suggests that patients should be evaluated according to their “biological age” rather than their actual, chronological age — i.e., a patient who is already in poor health could be evaluated as being biologically older than his or her birthday suggests, and vice-versa. A doctor who wished to remain anonymous told Aftonbladet that determining a patient’s biological age can be difficult.

While these directives are based on guidelines issued by Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare, the original guidelines are not based on specific age groups, and state that evaluations for intensive care should take a patient’s biological age rather than his actual age into account. The Karolinska Hospital’s public relations department has confirmed that this is what the hospital will be following if a crisis arises.

Björn Eriksson, who is the Health Director for the Stockholm region, told Aftonbladet that such triaging would only come into effect when hospitals have completely run out of spaces in their ICUs, and this has not happened anywhere in Sweden yet. He noted that even though the number of patients requiring intensive care has increased with the coronavirus outbreak, the number of ICU spaces has increased as well. As of Thursday, 79 of the more than 300 spaces available in Stockhom’s ICUs were vacant.

These revelations are not the only reason why Sweden’s elderly or those with chronic health problems might be concerned. Sweden’s Board of Health and Welfare has also issued guidelines stating that patients should be evaluated solely on the basis of their health, not according to their citizenship or legal status — meaning illegal migrants could receive higher priority than Swedish citizens in some medical situations, as previously reported by Voice of Europe.
Shocking... This is so sad... :(
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Watch the awesome footage. Most idiotic POTUS :roflmao:
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This really fits better with the Trump thread, as it was already raised there. SAM, shall we move it there?

BTW, I liked the clip up to to the point when the woman came along near the end and decided to tell us all what we have to think about it. It would be better to let the recording speak for itself.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

According to this, there have been 351 new cases in China today, and 1290 new deaths... This is just days after the lifting of restrictions. This is scary and rings a big alarm bell for the US....
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This speaks for itself...
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Poll: Most Brits blame China for COVID-19 outbreak

A recent poll has revealed that over half of Britons think China is to blame for the global COVID-19 pandemic which, at the present moment, has caused half of the world’s population to be under stay-at-home orders.

The poll, carried out by MailOnline, found that 56 percent of UK citizens believe the Chinese government is responsible for the spread of the novel coronavirus around the globe, compared to just 26 percent who said that Beijing is not to blame. Another 18 percent of those who were polled said they weren’t sure.

Furthermore, figures from the poll revealed that there’s overwhelming support among UK citizens to implement a worldwide ban on so-called ‘wet’ animal markets, where, despite a growing amount of evidence which suggests otherwise, some people believe the virus may have originated in Wuhan.

While three quarters of survey respondents said they would like to see ‘wet’ markets banned, more than half (54 percent) believe that calling the coronavirus the ‘Wuhan Virus’ is entirely appropriate.

During a press conference earlier this week, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab expressed that there needed to be a “deep dive’ into the facts surrounding the initial outbreak of the COVID-19 virus.

“I think there absolutely needs to be a very, very deep dive after the event review of the lessons – including of the outbreak of the virus – and I don’t think we can flinch from that at all, it needs to be driven by the science,” Raab said.

“So we ought to look at all sides of this and do it in a balanced way, but there is no doubt we can’t have business as usual after this crisis, and we will have to ask the hard questions about how it came about and how it couldn’t have been stopped earlier,” the foreign secretary added.

Earlier this week, US President Donald Trump suggested that there could be “consequences” for China as a result of it misleading the rest of the world regarding the COVID-19 outbreak, which some have suggested began there as early as last fall.

Trump also cut off $500 million that would’ve gone to fund the WHO this week, accusing the international organization of failing to do enough to stem the spread of the virus.
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Strange behavier of the coronavirus in Switzerland. :clueless: What can be the reason.
Coronavirus in Switzerland: Why have the French and Italian-speaking regions been so hard hit?

From the beginning of the outbreak to the present day, the coronavirus has had an uneven impact on
Switzerland and its 26 cantons.

As at Thursday, April 16th, Switzerland's confirmed cases of Covid-19 stand at 26,275. The fatality toll stands at 1,242 on the basis of reporting from the cantons.

The impact of the virus has however been much higher in non-German-speaking Switzerland - however the government has said that this is due to situational factors rather than a failing of the cantonal governments themselves.

Latin Switzerland heavily affected

In just three cantons - Ticino, Vaud and Geneva - there have been just under half of the country’s confirmed cases, while the death toll from those three cantons is more than half of Switzerland’s total.

Conversely Zurich, which is the largest canton in Switzerland with more than 1.5 million people - just under 20 percent of the country’s population - has ten percent of the country’s confirmed cases and seven percent of the fatalities.

In total, more than two-thirds (68 percent) of the country’s total victims of Covid-19 live in Latin Switzerland, despite these areas accounting for less than a third of the country’s population.

As reported by The Local Switzerland on Thursday, April 16th, the widespread testing in Zurich - compared with a lack of testing in other parts of the country - indicates that the figures are likely to be more accurate in Zurich but much higher in other Swiss cantons.

In just three cantons - Ticino, Vaud and Geneva - there have been just under half of the country’s confirmed cases, while the death toll from those three cantons is more than half of Switzerland’s total.

Conversely Zurich, which is the largest canton in Switzerland with more than 1.5 million people - just under 20 percent of the country’s population - has ten percent of the country’s confirmed cases and seven percent of the fatalities.

In total, more than two-thirds (68 percent) of the country’s total victims of Covid-19 live in Latin Switzerland, despite these areas accounting for less than a third of the country’s population.
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Coronavirus outbreak in Sweden raises fears of 'blind spot' in some communities

People in Sweden with foreign backgrounds are disproportionately affected by the coronavirus, according to the country's Public Health Agency, raising fears that a "blind spot" is masking the spread of the coronavirus in some communities.

Earlier this week, the country's Public Health Agency reported that Somali-born residents in Sweden were over-represented among those in need of hospital care for COVID-19, as were people born in Eritrea, Finland, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey and the former Yugoslavia.

"For us the main signal is really that we need to reach those groups better with different kinds of messages to help protect them," state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell told AFP, conceding that authorities don't know the reason for their over-representation.

Stockholm accounts for over 40 percent of Sweden's more than 13,000 COVID-19 cases.
Figures released last week by the capital showed that some poorer neighbourhoods had up to three times as many cases per capita.

Those municipalities are home to several of Sweden's "vulnerable areas," a designation originally assigned by Swedish police to socio-economically disadvantaged areas with high levels of crime.

More than 550,000 people live in these 61 areas, according to a 2019 report commissioned by the local rights group the Global Village.
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Coronavirus: Pakistan lifts bans on mosque prayers for Ramadan

Pakistan has lifted bans on congregational prayers at mosques ahead of Ramadan, prompting alarm from some health experts who are worried about the spread of Covid-19.

The government bowed to calls from influential clerics and religious parties to relax the country’s pandemic precautions, which include a limit of three to five people visiting mosques at any time.

The decision, after meetings between President Arif Alvi and religious leaders, came less than a week before the start of the Ramadan, when attendance at mosques increases.

Government officials and religious leaders agreed to allow communal prayers if mosques signed up to 20 precautions to stop the coronavirus sweeping through their congregations.

The decision was described as a dangerous precedent at odds with many other Muslim nations where mosques were closed.

Dr Mishal Khan, an associate professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said she was “very concerned” about the decision.

“As a policy analyst I'm well aware that religious leaders are powerful and the government would have had little choice," Dr Khan said.

"But giving the impression to the public that congregations can be safe is dangerous.”
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Germany: Largest newspaper bills China for coronavirus damage

Bild, which is Germany’s largest newspaper, posted an editorial last week assessing the damage that China’s many failures in relation to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic had caused, demanding that the Chinese government foot the bill.

Bild estimates that China owes Germany 149 billion euros for the damage the pandemic and the ensuing lockdown has inflicted on the German economy. It provided an itemized bill, which includes 24 billion euros in lost tourist revenue, 7.2 billion lost by the German film industry, 50 billion to small businesses, and 1 million per hour to Lufthansa.

Bild further claims that the coronavirus has caused a 4.2% drop in Germany’s Gross Domestic Product — which amounts to 1,784 euros lost per German citizen.

The Chinese Embassy in Germany responded angrily to the bill, claiming that the newspaper was merely “stirring up nationalism, prejudice, xenophobia, and hostility toward China,” according to a report by Taiwan News.

Bild’s Editor-in-Chief, Julian Reichelt, responded the following day with an open letter to China’s President, Xi Jinping. In it, he pointed out that China subjects its citizens to strict surveillance and yet can’t keep watch over its animal markets (where it is claimed the virus originated), and that China imposes tight controls on political prisoners and yet exercises lax safety standards in its Wuhan virology laboratories. He also stated that China is the world leader in intellectual property theft.

Reichelt further attacked the Chinese government for not being more forthcoming about the danger posed by the virus early on, particularly in that for weeks China denied that it could be transmitted by person-to-person contact.

US President Donald Trump has also indicated that he believes there should be consequences for China’s misinformation campaign in the early weeks of the coronavirus crisis, as previously reported by Voice of Europe.
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Did anyone read the stuff about North Korea? What do you make of it?
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manfred wrote:Did anyone read the stuff about North Korea? What do you make of it?
Do you mean this Manfred? Kim Jong-Un ‘in grave danger following emergency heart surgery

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yes, that.... I have come across various contradictory reports, he is gravely ill, he is just perfectly fine, he had heart surgery, he didn't. he had coronavirus, he didn't, he has already died, he was never even sick.... is there some way to find out the truth?

The only thing that we know for sure is that he missed a number of diary appointments, which would normally be considered a "must"...

I bet North Korea is pretty bad with coronavirus cases, they just don't tell people about it. He would be a "high risk" case as he is severely obese, has heart problems and most likely shocking blood pressure....

There was a clip of him and the South Korean president planting a tree together some time ago .... The much older South Korean had no problems at all shovelling a bit of soil, while Kim Yung Un was huffing and puffing, and getting a red face from a tiny bit of physical effort.
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manfred wrote:yes, that.... I have come across various contradictory reports, he is gravely ill, he is just perfectly fine, he had heart surgery, he didn't. he had coronavirus, he didn't, he has already died, he was never even sick.... is there some way to find out the truth?
I think if he has passed away, we would have known by now. But as there is no smoke without a fire, something must be happening.

It seems his sister has a big role nowadays in North Korea. People say, she's the most important person in the North Korean regime after her brother, so :clueless:

The whole world is speculating about Kim Jong-un, and his sister Kim Yo-jong.
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In Manado, on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi, bat meat remains a local delicacy despite experts suspecting that the virus may have originated in bats, before being passed onto humans, possibly through another animal species.

Manfred's mother is from Indonesia. Indonesians have been eating bats for hundreds of years.
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Are you aware that this virus is a NEW virus, and that is why it is more dangerous? Suppose the next virus originates in goats or cows, does that mean they become "haram"?

I have never eaten a bat, or a dog, or anything weird. In fact I eat very little meat .... sometimes fish or shrimps though. I eat a lot of tofu and tempeh... I like beans and lentils, green vegetables, and lots of fruit, and rice. Possibly once a month I make some bakso or some crispy chicken. Eggs in moderation, they are high in cholesterol.... I like some English dishes too. The problem is most of them do not lend themselves to make small portions for just one.

Having said that,are you sure that the new virus even is connected to bats? I have read reports it may have come from the Chinese Virus research institute in Wuhan, and that the wet market does not even sell bats. Like always, it is hard to finds things out when China is concerned.
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Coronavirus lockdown in Moscow: Elderly struggling to cope with COVID-19 restrictions

Lockdown is proving to be hard for Moscow's elderly and many are falling through the net of social services, it's been claimed.

Muscovites aged over 65 or with chronic conditions are not supposed to leave their homes.

Many are trying to stay isolated but, for some, managing their daily lives on their own is far from easy.

Nina is more than 80 years old and lives in Moscow, the epicentre of the COVID-19 epidemic in Russia.

But she is refusing to stay at home.

“Old people have to stay between four walls most of the time anyway, so not letting us go out at all is torture,” she said.

Social services and volunteers are helping by going shopping and delivering food but they lack the funding to do more.

Oleg Sharipkov, executive director of the Civil Union Foundation, says the elderly are a "forgotten generation".

"Lots of people need to be visited, a whole generation, there aren't enough resources to see them all," he said.

"And there are many vulnerable older people who are not the focus of social services and volunteers."

Those living alone face even more difficulties during the lockdown.

Some do not have bank cards and could not get their pensions as the banks were closed during the first week of restrictions.

"People found themselves in a situation where they simply did not have the money to buy food," Sharipkov said.

Many older Moscovites do not have access to a computer let alone the internet and this heavily reduces their human interaction during the lockdown.

Others have no living relatives left. Foundations, social services and volunteers are doing their best but Sharipkov says it just isn't enough.

“They need food, and someone to take their rubbish out, and many of them are really scared", said Andrei, a volunteer.

Lockdown conditions have also made it very hard for people with older relatives to properly look after their parents.

After a stroke, Maria Esakova's mother now needs constant care and because of the new restrictions, she can only visit her twice a week. Maria also has to take care of her children and cannot move in with her mother.

“She can fall down at any moment, and I have already used up my two scheduled visits per week," said Maria. "What can I do if she falls down? She doesn’t cook for herself. Her right hand does not work. How can I not go to her? Volunteers do not have the right to go inside, they only bring the products to the door, it does not even reach the door.”

Social services have asked the government for more funds to help better protect the elderly during the lockdown but say they have received no response.

Russia has recorded more than 50,000 COVID-19 infections and 456 deaths.
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Coronavirus lockdown in Moscow: Elderly struggling to cope with COVID-19 restrictions

Lockdown is proving to be hard for Moscow's elderly and many are falling through the net of social services, it's been claimed.

Muscovites aged over 65 or with chronic conditions are not supposed to leave their homes.

Many are trying to stay isolated but, for some, managing their daily lives on their own is far from easy.

Nina is more than 80 years old and lives in Moscow, the epicentre of the COVID-19 epidemic in Russia.

But she is refusing to stay at home.

“Old people have to stay between four walls most of the time anyway, so not letting us go out at all is torture,” she said.

Social services and volunteers are helping by going shopping and delivering food but they lack the funding to do more.

Oleg Sharipkov, executive director of the Civil Union Foundation, says the elderly are a "forgotten generation".

"Lots of people need to be visited, a whole generation, there aren't enough resources to see them all," he said.

"And there are many vulnerable older people who are not the focus of social services and volunteers."

Those living alone face even more difficulties during the lockdown.

Some do not have bank cards and could not get their pensions as the banks were closed during the first week of restrictions.

"People found themselves in a situation where they simply did not have the money to buy food," Sharipkov said.

Many older Moscovites do not have access to a computer let alone the internet and this heavily reduces their human interaction during the lockdown.

Others have no living relatives left. Foundations, social services and volunteers are doing their best but Sharipkov says it just isn't enough.

“They need food, and someone to take their rubbish out, and many of them are really scared", said Andrei, a volunteer.

Lockdown conditions have also made it very hard for people with older relatives to properly look after their parents.

After a stroke, Maria Esakova's mother now needs constant care and because of the new restrictions, she can only visit her twice a week. Maria also has to take care of her children and cannot move in with her mother.

“She can fall down at any moment, and I have already used up my two scheduled visits per week," said Maria. "What can I do if she falls down? She doesn’t cook for herself. Her right hand does not work. How can I not go to her? Volunteers do not have the right to go inside, they only bring the products to the door, it does not even reach the door.”

Social services have asked the government for more funds to help better protect the elderly during the lockdown but say they have received no response.

Russia has recorded more than 50,000 COVID-19 infections and 456 deaths.
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