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Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:59 pm
by Brain
In recent gaza war, which side is at fault?

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:54 pm
by survivor
Brain wrote:In recent gaza war, which side is at fault?

Certainly Hamas is at fault, dear Brain. These sadists are the ones who initiated rocket attacks at Israel during the time of auspecious Hanukkah, aiming to spoil the spirit of New year celebration for Jewish people.
Sincerely,
survivor.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:30 am
by CoolView
survivor wrote:
Brain wrote:In recent gaza war, which side is at fault?

Certainly Hamas is at fault, dear Brain. These sadists are the ones who initiated rocket attacks at Israel during the time of auspecious Hanukkah, aiming to spoil the spirit of New year celebration for Jewish people.
Sincerely,
survivor.


Cool! Now death penalty can be restored all over the world.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:26 am
by ygalg
CoolView wrote:
survivor wrote:
Brain wrote:In recent gaza war, which side is at fault?

Certainly Hamas is at fault, dear Brain. These sadists are the ones who initiated rocket attacks at Israel during the time of auspecious Hanukkah, aiming to spoil the spirit of New year celebration for Jewish people.
Sincerely,
survivor.


Cool! Now death penalty can be restored all over the world.

for these who deserve it, I have no objection.
I have no pity for the cruel. these who pity for the cruel, ending up to be cruel for the pitiable.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:29 pm
by ygalg
Brain wrote:In recent gaza war, which side is at fault?

what is your view on the gaza war?
and please no political correctness.
there is the notion that to be anti Islamic is automatically identified a pro Israeli or a Jew/zionist. which sounds a bit of theory conspiracy.

appreciate an honest opinion.

my request for other members as well, to sate what they really have in their mind on the issue.

Israel is far from be titled 'saint'. the government yet purged from it's corrupted individuals.

an constructive criticism will be favorable.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:08 pm
by Brain
ygalg wrote:what is your view on the gaza war?
and please no political correctness.
there is the notion that to be anti Islamic is automatically identified a pro Israeli or a Jew/zionist. which sounds a bit of theory conspiracy.

appreciate an honest opinion.

my request for other members as well, to sate what they really have in their mind on the issue.

Israel is far from be titled 'saint'. the government yet purged from it's corrupted individuals.

an constructive criticism will be favorable.

Hi Ygalg,
Personally i love Israeli people but i accuse its leaders of corruption and PC. They are spineless, power hungry creatures and encouraging/supporting arab muslims over real Jews for vote bank politics. Israel is surviving not because of USA or coz of israel's dirty politicians but coz of brave residents and army personnel.
I know few jews/israeli's personally and they also feels like me.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:45 pm
by Learning
i don't get it. Why is hammas so dumb as to throw stones at a hornet's nest when they don't have a protective suit?

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:03 pm
by ygalg
thank for your reply brain.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:05 pm
by charleslemartel
Learning wrote:i don't get it. Why is hammas so dumb as to throw stones at a hornet's nest when they don't have a protective suit?


Because Allah has promised them to protect from hornets' stings by sending armies of angels :lol:

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:28 pm
by LCD
Learning wrote:i don't get it. Why is hammas so dumb as to throw stones at a hornet's nest when they don't have a protective suit?


1. Hamas will always thrown Stones ( and missles) at ISreal.
2. They will then hide among civilian population.
3. Isreal will avenge the death of it's people with retrubutive strikes, often pinpointed specificaslly
to where Hamas Hides.
4. Civilians are in the area, they will die because Hamas wants them to die.
5. Hamas then complains to international press, "Attacks on Civilians."
6 the world at Large denounces isreal when it should denounce Hamas

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:31 pm
by LCD
Has Isreal ever attacked muslims during Ramadan?

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:51 pm
by Lincoln
Brain wrote:In recent gaza war, which side is at fault?


Hello Brain,
The reason of this Gaza war cant be constricted into a period of few weeks or months. But it has a historical background that has started with Israel's occupation of Palestine.

Being occupied and besieged by Israel, Gaza have been facing grave humanitarian crisis and therefore the Gazan freedom fighters was left with nothing but to do something to have the attention of the world community.. But unfortunately International community utterly failed to provide any solution to the sufferings of Palestinians...

The answer of your question is:- Its Israel who is responsible for this Gaza war.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:33 am
by Brain
Lincoln wrote:Hello Brain,
The reason of this Gaza war cant be constricted into a period of few weeks or months. But it has a historical background that has started with Israel's occupation of Palestine.

Being occupied and besieged by Israel, Gaza have been facing grave humanitarian crisis and therefore the Gazan freedom fighters was left with nothing but to do something to have the attention of the world community.. But unfortunately International community utterly failed to provide any solution to the sufferings of Palestinians...

The answer of your question is:- Its Israel who is responsible for this Gaza war.

Any why Israel occupied ? Who fought war with israel in 1967?
In 1967 Israel did not wake up one morning and decide to go to war - she woke up one morning and found she had to defend herself.
Get your facts right before defending your "Gazan freedom fighters"

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:56 am
by Chewchy
If we were talking about the Palestinian issue in it's entirety, I would have voted differently, i.e. both but not to equal degree. However, being that the question is regarding this particular situation in Gaza with Hamas, I am saying 100% Hamas is at fault.

Read their charter.
Watch their actions (past and present) against both Israel and other Palestnians.

I am so sick of seeing the talking heads get on TV from east and west calling for a cease fire... it is empty words and meaningless. What the hell is that going to do? The people that need to abide by a cease fire is Hamas as it is their actions (rockets into Israel since pullout of Gaza) that created this in the first place.

When Israel pulled out of Gaza, it was a perfect opportunity to show the world what positive things they could do for the betterment of the people of Gaza. You can't tell me that millions of dollars thrown their way would do nothing and you can't tell me that it's not just sitting in the pockets of a select few with nothing but hate education going to the masses.

What did Gazans do whe Israel pulled out? They destroyed vital infrastructure that could have helped them become self-sustaining and voted in the likes of Hamas. The Hamas election really shows how utterly desparate they were at the time but in the end, they chose unwisely.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:41 am
by ent
Hamas and Israel should not even be used in the same sentence. Israel is an established, legal country with historical precedent. Hamas is a pan uber cult, terrorist, subversive organization and arm of a foreign power (Iran). Israel is defending itself and has done more than any country of the world to maintain peace and humanity.

Bottom line is that the Israeli government has been cracking down on settlements and arresting settlers for a long time. The zionist, right wing settlers have been making the settlements --- against the government. They took them out of Chevron, Gaza, and elsewhere, and yet the Palestinian attacks continued. The media is reporting baloney. Hamas has no legitimacy. Palestinians are victims of brain washing and mass hysteria as was Hitler's Germany.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:35 pm
by Lincoln
Brain wrote:
Lincoln wrote:Hello Brain,
The reason of this Gaza war cant be constricted into a period of few weeks or months. But it has a historical background that has started with Israel's occupation of Palestine.

Being occupied and besieged by Israel, Gaza have been facing grave humanitarian crisis and therefore the Gazan freedom fighters was left with nothing but to do something to have the attention of the world community.. But unfortunately International community utterly failed to provide any solution to the sufferings of Palestinians...

The answer of your question is:- Its Israel who is responsible for this Gaza war.

Any why Israel occupied ? Who fought war with israel in 1967?
In 1967 Israel did not wake up one morning and decide to go to war - she woke up one morning and found she had to defend herself.
Get your facts right before defending your "Gazan freedom fighters"


Hello Brain, frankly speaking I am not at all surprised to see your statement"why Israel occupied ?"!. Basically over the years people as they are creating huge distant between them and the facts can really comment your that speech. Dont remember what history teaches about the people of this Israel and from where they have come from and what they did to drive away the inhabitants of palestine!!

My facts are as right as the daylight but my friend checkout your facts before coming to the board.

Take care.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:00 am
by survivor
Lincoln wrote: Dont remember what history teaches about the people of this Israel and from where they have come from and what they did to drive away the inhabitants of palestine!!

My facts are as right as the daylight but my friend checkout your facts before coming to the board.

Take care.

:-|
Oh, I.C, in that case, we have many more such wonderful and rather valid questions to be answered by all those aggressive, snooty and obstinate muslims who have been constantly snatching, occupying and encroaching the lands of non-muslims all around the world for over 1400 years now.

For example, some of the questions from the Subcontinent area:-

[*]How and why did the original history of Bharat, get altered and twisted by it's brutal foreigner rulers who forced their rule over it for almost 900 years?

[*]Where were the countries such as Pakistan and Bangla desh before 1947?

[*] In addition to snatching picturesque land parts of main land Bharat, WHY so much importance also was given to snatch away the land parts that were Ultimate HOLY for Sikh, Hindu, Jain and Buddhist people of Bharat?

[*] Why doesn't it click to these arab worshipping people that they are wrong in every manner when they lay their claims over non-muslim lands????????

Any muslim who thinks he has the answers for the above questions asked, then he has to be ready to expect the same answers from the the Israelites [who factually are the rightfull owners of Middle eastern countries] and other non-muslims as well.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:20 am
by natural_person
Learning wrote:i don't get it. Why is hammas so dumb as to throw stones at a hornet's nest when they don't have a protective suit?


Hamas wanted all this, waiting to happen. They prepared for such an incursion. They maybe did not expect full invasion. Just maybe. It's all about politics. Hamas don't care about the people.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:12 pm
by Lincoln
survivor wrote:
Lincoln wrote: Dont remember what history teaches about the people of this Israel and from where they have come from and what they did to drive away the inhabitants of palestine!!

My facts are as right as the daylight but my friend checkout your facts before coming to the board.

Take care.

:-|
Oh, I.C, in that case, we have many more such wonderful and rather valid questions to be answered by all those aggressive, snooty and obstinate muslims who have been constantly snatching, occupying and encroaching the lands of non-muslims all around the world for over 1400 years now.


Having many questions in your mind is a good sign as after all you are inclined to know something.

For example, some of the questions from the Subcontinent area:-


You are from Subcontinent. Right.! :)

[*]How and why did the original history of Bharat, get altered and twisted by it's brutal foreigner rulers who forced their rule over it for almost 900 years?


Dear survivor, plz correlate this with Israels invasion in Palestine and how does it justify killing of 1000 civilians in this very age! Plz go on.

[*]Where were the countries such as Pakistan and Bangla desh before 1947?

:roll:
Are Bangladesh and Pakistan created by immigrants or by the originial inhabitants of those areas? Very much unlike Israel , you know that, dont you dear?


Any muslim who thinks he has the answers for the above questions asked, then he has to be ready to expect the same answers from the the Israelites [who factually are the rightfull owners of Middle eastern countries] and other non-muslims as well.

Xplain how they have become the rightfull owners. I am eager to listen. Also explain how by being a Human being in this modern age justify killing of 1000 human being where most of them are mere civilians with more than 200 children..
Dont cry , find out whats called humanity.


Take care.

Re: Which side is at fault?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:25 pm
by ygalg
whose temple the romans ruined; Palestinians or jews?
who were the Hasmoneans; Palestinians or jews?
who intreduce the temple mount to omar caliph; Palestinians or jews?