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No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:59 am
by pr126
Somali Mother of Four Slaughtered for her Faith

The relative, who requested anonymity, said Asha Mberwa, 36, was killed at 5:15 p.m. in Warbhigly village; the Islamic extremists from the insurgent group had arrested her outside her house the previous day at 8:30 a.m.
She died when the militants cut her throat in front of villagers who came out of their homes as witnesses.

Not real Muslims then.


I am sure Allah was pleased with the offering of the human sacrifice. :worthy:

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:12 pm
by IoshkaFutz
pr126 wrote:Somali Mother of Four Slaughtered for her Faith

Not real Muslims then.

I am sure Allah was pleased with the offering of the human sacrifice. :worthy:


And so no doubt is the Muslim Chaplain of Harvard University.

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:32 pm
by pr126
IoshkaFutz wrote:
pr126 wrote:Somali Mother of Four Slaughtered for her Faith

Not real Muslims then.

I am sure Allah was pleased with the offering of the human sacrifice. :worthy:


And so no doubt is the Muslim Chaplain of Harvard University.

Well, at least they don't cut out the still beating heart of their victims.
Good thing that Muhammad never heard of the god Huehueteotl from the Aztecs.


In the case of an Aztec human sacrifice being performed for the god Huehueteotl, the ritual was slightly changed. Huehueteotl was the Aztec god of warmth, death, and cold. He was responsible for light in the darkness and for food during times of famine. As a part of the Aztec religion, special sacrifices were held for Huehueteotl. The victim was first thrown into a fire, and then pulled back out with hooks before being dying. The living heart was then removed and thrown back to the fire. Aztec human sacrifices and bloodletting were important aspects of the Aztec religion, as they believed it brought balance and peace to the world around them.

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You know, I often wondered that if the Aztec religion was still around, with human sacrifices, the politically correct multiculturalist would have absolutely no objections.
It would be just another religion that must be respected.

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Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:12 pm
by Donnerschlag
Absolutely barbaric.

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:43 pm
by IoshkaFutz
Ciao pr126,

The Aztecs had more style. First of all they had lavish ceremonies at appointed timings and places with designated victims. Suicide bombings and the like are rather random events, left not to some high priest but to the whim of Islam's many Many MANY self-appointed definers of Islam.

Plus I imagine the Aztecs having had at least some qualms about murdering their own, whereas the biggest victims of suicide blombing are the Muslims themselves (which is what really keeps the moderate so moderate).

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:26 am
by saturn
Sadly, these people are not extremists, they are faithful muslims.

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:18 am
by pr126
According to some posters on AtheistForums.com I am posting fascist propaganda

Poster edjerha has an interesting view on this.

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:15 pm
by Nosuperstition
pr126 wrote:In the case of an Aztec human sacrifice being performed for the god Huehueteotl, the ritual was slightly changed. Huehueteotl was the Aztec god of warmth, death, and cold. He was responsible for light in the darkness and for food during times of famine. As a part of the Aztec religion, special sacrifices were held for Huehueteotl. The victim was first thrown into a fire, and then pulled back out with hooks before being dying. The living heart was then removed and thrown back to the fire. Aztec human sacrifices and bloodletting were important aspects of the Aztec religion, as they believed it brought balance and peace to the world around them.

source

You know, I often wondered that if the Aztec religion was still around, with human sacrifices, the politically correct multiculturalist would have absolutely no objections.


The Aztecs first mistook white Spaniards for being white gods however seeing these new gods not perform any miracles,they understood them as their rivals who want to steal their land and hence are their enemies.They therefore even sacrificed these captured white gods to their existing gods.It was a convenient way of getting rid of warriors of their previous rival tribes and they implemented the same on the Spaniards.

Similarly they the Aztecs even sacrificed their own when faced with the dilemmas of food shortages during famines in order to avert anarchy etc.And why to waste the sacrificed remains when you can sustain a few more of living beings of such tough circumstances by resorting to cannibalism?

When muslims invaded Hindu lands and Hindus were faced with quite quite difficult situations of rape and land loss,they too sacrificed captured Turks to hungry ghosts such as Saakini,Daakini etc.Simply put a convenient way of getting rid of captured able bodied men of enemy ranks so that you can buy peace atleast for time being.Much the same way as cow being made a sacred animal without mentioning that it is made sacred as it is highly valuable in an agrarian economy.The real reason needn't be mentioned while creating rituals with dastardly outward appearances.

Today you do not see mainstream Hindus performing such sacrifices when there is no need.Similarly who knows even the Aztecs would have turned for better by abandoning sacrifices had their situations been any better with proper family planning.Anyway why bother to demonise the Aztecs when Christ himself is a sin expiation human sacrifice by God himself?

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:59 pm
by Nosuperstition
idesigner1/crazy canuck said in the old forum that in the Hindu Manusmriti,he found the most silly written item that whoever eats in the dark will be reborn as a cat,an animal that does most of its work during nights.I was told in my childhood by my mother that one should not eat in the dark as only ghosts and demons eat in the dark.Now later when I had grown up ,I was told that that particular rule was made so that people won't mistakenly eat poisonous animals such as lizards,spiders etc in the dark.So behind every taboo made,there would be another real reason.

Similarly the Aztecs too might have developed terrorising human sacrifices just like the Romans for those who were criminals per their laws. Afterall even in 15th century England with a huge population,a serious criminal's hand would be cut off and thrown into fire right before his eyes.No big deal and good lesson to teach others to behave well.

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:42 pm
by M85
Nosuperstition, resurrecting an ancient topic and sending it off course again I see.

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:50 pm
by manfred
Yep.... I do wish he would stop that...

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:08 pm
by Fernando
M85 wrote:Nosuperstition, resurrecting an ancient topic and sending it off course again I see.
Maybe he's preparing the ground for Alex. :wink2:

Re: No compulsion in religion.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:24 pm
by M85
haha Yep Fernando that does make sense. :)