250 Sons of Guns

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LAHORE, Pakistan: Around 250 people staged a demonstration in the central Pakistani city of Lahore on Wednesday, warning the president not to pardon a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting Islam.

They also denounced any attempt to change Pakistan’s blasphemy law, which critics say is often misused to persecute Christians like Aasia Bibi and other minorities. Her case has prompted outrage from human rights groups and a personal appeal from Pope Benedict XVI for her release

http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/24/proteste ... -bibi.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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iffo wrote: http://www.dawn.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... st-500.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LAHORE, Pakistan: Around 250 people staged a demonstration in the central Pakistani city of Lahore on Wednesday, warning the president not to pardon a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting Islam.

They also denounced any attempt to change Pakistan’s blasphemy law, which critics say is often misused to persecute Christians like Aasia Bibi and other minorities. Her case has prompted outrage from human rights groups and a personal appeal from Pope Benedict XVI for her release

http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/24/proteste ... -bibi.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And They are "Sons Of Guns" dear iffo?? usually the word "Son Of A Gun" is used to heroes., are they heroes of Islam or Neros of Islam ??

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To me they are all A-Holes Mr YeeZee

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iffo wrote:To me they are all A-Holes Mr YeeZee
Moderate Muslims ?
gupsfu wrote:When someone uses the "taken out of context" argument without explaining what it's really supposed to mean, you know he's lying.
Muslims are so secure in their faith that they need to kill those who don’t share it.

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iffo wrote:To me they are all A-Holes Mr YeeZee
Well then call the Rascals as Ass holes "NOT SON'S OF GUNS dear iffo..
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iffo, Are you for or against the blasphemy law?

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Well Sons of Guns or Guns of Sons these people who are numbered as 250 did not write these posters and they do not have any idea what they are doing and this is a stage show that is so typical after there is a strong news denouncing Islam.

It is very possible that 249 of them were given 790 Rs. each for their 3 hour act.
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Yohan wrote:iffo, Are you for or against the blasphemy law?

Its a very complex issue. I am against any sever punishment for insulting the prophet. It should be some small fine or something like this.

But one can can not just abolish it, because then Islam haters will exploit it and everyday there will be article in the paper calling Prophet name and people will not be able to do anything about it other than getting frustrated and stressed.

You got to understand Muslims mind their own business they don't go out abuse others prophets, because most of them are our own prophets so we can not. Even we don't insult Budha or Ram. But lot of Islam haters have bad things to say against Muhammad so we can not just abolish this law.

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iffo wrote:Even we don't insult Budha or Ram.
No. you guys definitely don't do things like that.
Spoiler! :
iffo, if you don't stop your deliberate trolling---I'll be forced to send you on a small vacation.

(unless he really is that ignorant. hard to tell)
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iffo wrote:
Yohan wrote:iffo, Are you for or against the blasphemy law?
Its a very complex issue.
O.K., it is complex.. Now tell me the complexity of the issue dear iffo., The answer should be "Yes" or "No"
I am against any sever punishment for insulting the prophet. It should be some small fine or something like this.
Well give the details, what you think is the right thing to do..
But one can can not just abolish it, because then Islam haters will exploit it and everyday there will be article in the paper calling Prophet name and people will not be able to do anything about it other than getting frustrated and stressed.
So what they write? why defenders of Prophet can not do anything?? what do you mean by that?? Well defenders of the prophet should defend writing back in the news papers., what is the problems there??
You got to understand Muslims mind their own business they don't go out abuse others prophets, because most of them are our own prophets so we can not.
Well if Muslims didn't abuse other religions and their followers (including some Muslims insulting prophets ) and Islamic Caliphs/mullahs/imams did not burning churches and temples "ISLAM WOULD HAVE NOT COME OUT OF ARABIAN DESERT" dear iffo.
Even we don't insult Budha or Ram. But lot of Islam haters have bad things to say against Muhammad so we can not just abolish this law.
Well explain them what are the bad things people are saying about Prophet of Islam., Who said those things to start with? who wrote those things about Prophet in the first place?? And if those sayings are not true , then Muslims should write them and if people don't listen to that they just laugh those insulter. Why worry about things that ARE NOT true but people are saying about Prophet Muhammad? you just laugh at them.. not erect Blasphemy laws and eliminate those who question Islam and erase other religious people from their community by hook or crook dear iffo..

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planck wrote:
iffo wrote:Even we don't insult Budha or Ram.
No. you guys definitely don't do things like that.
Spoiler! :
iffo, if you don't stop your deliberate trolling---I'll be forced to send you on a small vacation.

(unless he really is that ignorant. hard to tell)
what deliberate trolling ??? , go and fuke yourself, who you think you ate threatning.

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iffo wrote:what deliberate trolling ??? , go and fuke yourself, who you think you ate threatning.
right now? apparently someone who won't be posting on FFI for the next week?

:clueless:
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planck wrote:
iffo wrote:what deliberate trolling ??? , go and fuke yourself, who you think you ate threatning.
right now? apparently someone who won't be posting on FFI for the next week?

:clueless:
Go to hell, you little girl.

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iffo wrote:
planck wrote:
iffo wrote:what deliberate trolling ??? , go and fuke yourself, who you think you ate threatning.
right now? apparently someone who won't be posting on FFI for the next week?

:clueless:
Go to hell, you little girl.
:bye: Have a good thanksgiving!
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Pakistani Christian family flee death threats says news..
http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/24/pakistan ... reats.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Ashiq Maseeh (C) husband of Aasia Bibi, a Christian mother sentenced to death, talks with Pakistani Minister of Minority Affairs Shahbaz Bhatti in Islamabad on November 24, 2010. - Photo by AFP.
ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani Christian family whose mother has been sentenced to death for insulting Islam has gone into hiding because of death threats, they said Wednesday.

Politicians and conservative clerics are at loggerheads on whether President Asif Ali Zardari should pardon Aasia Bibi, a mother of five sentenced to hang for defaming Prophet Muhammed under controversial blasphemy laws.

Pakistan’s minister for minority affairs, Shahbaz Bhatti, who is himself a Christian, told reporters that Aasia’s family had been forced to flee their home but declined to say where they were staying because of security fears.

Aasia’s husband, Ashiq Masih, who works in a brick factory in the Shekhupura district near Lahore, said he and his children aged nine to 20 had left home because of death threats, but declined to say where they were now living.

“We are frightened. We are receiving threats, especially from clerics. They started demonstrations in the area,” he told reporters in Bhatti’s Islamabad office, accompanied by daughters Eesham, nine, and Sidra, 18.

“Yesterday there was a protest in Shekhupura. They said they will not leave Aasia Bibi alive if she is pardoned.” Rights activists say Pakistan’s blasphemy law, under which the offence is punishable by death, encourages extremism in a conservative Muslim country on the front line of the US-led war on Al-Qaeda.

Masih said the case was baseless and that the family were “not mad to insult any Prophet, religion or the Quran”, telling how his children broke down in tears when they found out about their mother’s plight.

Bhatti said he would submit a petition from the family asking Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to pardon Aasia.

“Today they have given me a mercy petition for the prime minister. I will submit it to the prime minister this week. The case is baseless,” said Bhatti.

The governor of Punjab, Salman Taseer, has also said he will pass on a petition for clemency to the Pakistani president.

Pope Benedict XVI last week called for Bibi’s release and said Christians in Pakistan were “often victims of violence and discrimination.” Aasia has filed a separate appeal against the verdict, but no date has been set for a court hearing.

The case began in June 2009 when she was asked to fetch water while working in the fields. Muslim women labourers objected, saying that as a non-Muslim, she should not touch the water bowl.

Bibi was later mobbed by crowds, arrested and prosecuted after Muslim women complained that she made derogatory remarks about Prophet Muhammed.

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iffo : what deliberate trolling ??? , go and fuke yourself, who you think you ate threatning.
"planck" : right now? apparently someone who won't be posting on FFI for the next week?
:clueless:


well there are plenty Muslims guys who don't know how Muslim persecuted others inthe past., iff is not alone in that respect..

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After looking at the intolerant and naive Muslims who appear to be like robots, cant they think for few minutes?

How can anyone disrespect by words, images or analogies or theories when Muslims disrespect by bulldozing entire cities, poeple, their "prophets" and destroying all life by Bombings, killings, beheadings and all sort of crimes like kidnappings, rapes and robberies.

How can the most violent faith followers be so sensitive when it comes to people expressing their reactions to this violent faith and its violent founder. What is wrong to say the truth?

All this blasphemy and other millions laws and commandments are nothing but excuses for Muslims to have a free license to kill. This is not civil nor human. Muslims should think that they are wrong and they should think many times before pointing their fingers. First look within your own self.
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True indeed, wakeup.

Surely respect is earned! What has Islam done for the world to earn our "respect"?
I would suggest "absolutely nothing".

Why should a hate-filled cult of violence such as Islam be "respected"?
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iffo wrote:
Yohan wrote:iffo, Are you for or against the blasphemy law?

Its a very complex issue. I am against any sever punishment for insulting the prophet. It should be some small fine or something like this.

But one can can not just abolish it, because then Islam haters will exploit it and everyday there will be article in the paper calling Prophet name and people will not be able to do anything about it other than getting frustrated and stressed.

You got to understand Muslims mind their own business they don't go out abuse others prophets, because most of them are our own prophets so we can not. Even we don't insult Budha or Ram. But lot of Islam haters have bad things to say against Muhammad so we can not just abolish this law.

Children in our country are taught a phrase, "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." We know that when someone speaks against our religions it is just their opinion and they have a right to it. Christians, such as myself, believe those who blaspheme against God will stand before HIM one day and give an account for their actions, but we do not consider taking action against them ourselves or in our political system.

Your Allah must be a very weak god that he cannot handle a few words against him. My God has no problem dealing with it in accordance with his mercy and love. Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" as he hung on the cross. Where is the Muslim sense of Allah's mercy in this? Why does he need your courts to fight his battles for him and punish those who dissent?

Iffo, your answer that there must be some punishment for this, with you as a "moderate Muslim" of course, shows that even "moderate Muslims" insist on everyone accepting Islamic life without dissent or be punished. So much for "there is no compulsion in Islam" and other such myths.

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iffo
Go to hell, you little girl.
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Poor Plank feels so good and powerful about himself by banning muslims, thinking its a big blow to them if they can not write here, instead of be a man and fight with them. Is this the most power you ever got in your entire life Plank?. :D


When will you average americans come out of your ignorance and have some general knowledge about the world and other people.
Putting Talibans video and trying to say that probably all muslims are represented by Talibans and hate Budha. It shows how ignorant you are.

You guys only fooling yourself by mis-represeting, not others.

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