Hindu leaders for 'fatwa' against 'jihad' in India

[fudgy]

Although, one good thing the Brits brought in the Sub-continent would be cricket. So fudging amazing game.

[fudgy]

If you care to actually look at texts and not be so ignorant, you'd discover that Durga is a warrior goddess and she signifies to gain happiness, you must kill your own demons in life and she took this form because she wants the best for her devotees.

You'll find a lot of gods and goddesses have multiple hands, lets see your comment for the gents they can do manly things and give women oral!

Which I think dear chiclet, you should actually READ about other religions before spouting out stuff like you have.

Thank God the Persian and the Arabs came in the subcontinent, and relieved many of this nonsense.

Only to be replaced with believing that the words of the baby fudger were the the words of god

Here are some more of your weird beliefs ...

The baby fudger said, 'When you eat, do not wipe your hands till you have licked it, or had it licked by somebody else."

The baby fudger said, "He who drinks in silver utensils is only filling his abdomen with Hell Fire."

The baby fudger forbade laughing at a person who passes wind.

The baby fudger's alter ego, Allah has cursed those women who have tattooing and those who remove hair from their faces to look beautiful.

The baby fudger has cursed the lady who uses false hair.

The baby fudger said, "None of you should walk, wearing one shoe only; he should either put on both shoes or put on no shoes whatsoever."

All right kid you've fudged enough. Tell you what I'll give you a candy if you find me the Quranic verse that says Muhammad married a 9 year old girl named Aisha. Run along now search for it.

[Chiclets]

I can do better, I can show you a verse where allah pretty much says "Mo you may **** anyone you desire"

[Chiclets]

Verse 33:50 about how muhammad can have almost any woman he wants, has a stipulation that it is only for muhammad, how convenient.

So what say you Fudgy ?

[Ram]

YOU LOOTED India. You took the treasures that you unearthed from the temples and other ancient sites in India to Britian. You PUMPED your "industrial revolution" on the raw materials you LOOTED from your colonies. You built "infrastrature" ONLY to strengthen and sustain your occupation. You built railway networks ONLY to easily transport arms and ammunitions witin the occupied territory. You errected boards outside your bars and offices, which wrote "NO INDIANS BUT DOGS". You built DANG, you apologist for imperialism.

At least the Brits left the temples intact. You razed Hindu temples to the ground, after you massacred all the males and sent the women and children across the Hindu Kush as slaves. You looted Northern India. You committed genocide against Hindus - the Brits never did that. There are no evil men like Muslims.

British contributed to the progress of India. British built while Muslims destroyed. Wherever Muslims went they wrought destruction. On the contrary the British built the infra structure of India. Muslims did not build a single bridge. Muslims did not build a single college or university. Muslims only built mosques to preach evil Islam, they built harems to house female sex slaves, they built musoleums for the glorification of corpses. Muslims did not build a single road, they only built gardens.

Do you think Muslims did not try to sustain their occupation? Do you Muslims did not loot? What about Nadir Shah who looted treasures of the Mugahls who were looters themselves? He stole the Peacock throne, Iran still has it. Do you think Muslims treated Indians as equals?

[fudgy]

No kid I say try again. This time I have raised the bar. I will give you two canday. How about Hershey and M&M?

[Chiclets]

No kid I say try again. This time I have raised the bar. I will give you two canday. How about Hershey and M&M?

How about you for once try to act maturely and address any of my two posts addressed at you kiddo, is it really that very difficult pumpkin at being a muslim.

[skynightblaze]

No kid I say try again. This time I have raised the bar. I will give you two canday. How about Hershey and M&M?

I see you are another paedophile worshipper around the block. So you believe hadiths are a lie ?

[Cassie]

The fact that the Quran permits muslims to fudge little girls who had never menstruated is evidence enough. Most other people don't need a book to tell them that old men fudging little girls is wrong. Simple innate morality tells us that. But not Muslims because fudging little girls is allowed by the Quran.

[Chiclets]

hey fudgy u there fudgy

[BlacKStaR]

i have a great laugh when someone uses " fudging".

[Balls_of_Titanium_1]

My issue is with non-Islamic terrorism and violence.

No it's not.

YES it is.

Your issue is with everything that is non-Islamic, even books critical of Islam and the success of non-Islamic nations you share a border with such as India.

You are rambling now. India is not succeeding, and it doesn't affect us at all.

You like so many Muslims cannot accept that Islam lies at the root of all your problems.

And you like many non-Muslims cannot accept that non-Islam is the heart of all the problems of the world.

All you can do is lash out with violence and insults. As we'll see in your opinions about British society etc etc...

I have not resorted to both of the things you allege. And my opinons about British society? Truth hurts, or should I say, easier when talking about Muslims, difficult when hearing about yourselves?

And you bring up 7/7 as if it was just an unprovoked terrorist act, but it wasn't.

So how many Iraqis took part in the act?

How many British did Saddam oppressed? Then his being "Dictator" should not of any concern to you.

But I do care about British cruelties against the Muslim world, from the empire days till now.

The Empire is long gone just like the Caliphate... get over it.

But the sentiments which led to the empire are still there - in people like you.

No, it is YOU who brought the conflict to Muslim doors, houses, by bombing and terrorizing them - like in Iraq.

No. Rushdie happened before any conflict we had with Saddam.

Rushdie didn't happen before you colonized the whole world.

And I reiterate, 7/7 was but a small revenge.

Sure, and the bombing of a Panamanian airline:- Alas Chiricanas Flight 00901, in 1994 was in revenge for .. oh hang on this is before the invasion of Iraq and Panama isn't involved in Iraq anyway.

Well, the above event occured in 1994, Israeli and American oppression against Muslims started many moons ago.

Islamic terror doesn't need revenge as a motive, it kills when it likes and makes excuses afterwards.

And non-Muslim terror doesn't need any excuses, it oppresses and kills Muslims (and others) when it feels like and makes excuses afterwards.

Which makes 7/7 a revenge.

See above.

You see above.

7/7 was to remove Tony the poodle.

It failed miserably, he was still in power afterwards.

Failure doesn't negate the reason why it happened.

You butcher Iraqis and this must not be an issue with their Muslim brothers?

What was the issue you had with Saddam, who was your friend a few years ago?

Saddam butchered Muslims too.

So? You butchered more Muslims then Saddam.

How come Muslims didn't attack Iraqi embassies like you did over a set of cartoons?

How come you were concerned about Saddam Hussien when Israel has been oppressing Palestinians for years under your support?

What was the issue you did not have with Saddam over his oppression of Muslims, surely those acts made him your enemy?

Your oppressive acts has made YOU our enemy.

MUBARAK is a western DOG.

So yes, I was right, you are wrong.

Mubarak may receive aid and support from western nations but Egypt is not a western regime.

Mubarak is not western, but a western's dog. So yes, he is western in this sense.

You destroyed infrastructure as well as the existing system. Yes, you are partially responsible for all the violence in Iraq.
But you are directly responsible for the hundred thousands killed directly due to your attacks.
Revenge is pending, by your logic.

No. Islamic violence is expected wherever Islam infects.

No. Non-Muslim violence is expected wherever Islam goes. You committed violence, revenge is pending.

It is the very nature of Islam.

It is the very nature of non-Islam.

You forget that you are directly responsible for the death you caused through military strikes. They run into hundreds of thousands.

You are delving into nonsensical issues.

The violence in Pakistan is due to American and Nato terrorism in Afghanistan and Tribal areas. Nato planes and drones butcher innocent men women adn children on almost routine basis, you think the tribals there - the only people who made British colonist pee in their pants in the empire days- would sit quiet at this?

Islamic violence was happening in what is now Afghanistan a long time before America was discovered and a long time before Britain had an Empire.

Yes, when Europeans were at each other's throats.

Such as the violent conquest of Zaranj in 661.

Such as the violent conquest of Britain by Romans, much before that.

The violence in India is due terrorism against minorities - like Gujarat riots, church burning, nun raping, Mosque demolishing, and other rioting events. It is also due to India's illegal and brutal occupation of Kashmir - something that YOU are responsible for. You authorized UNFAIR partition. You Britishers have A LOT to pay.

We gave partition to Pakistan because Muslims demanded a separate Islamic state.

YOU betrayed Muslims at the end of your occupation by authorizing unfair partition.

YOU SOWED THE KASHMIRI CONFLICT.

YOU are the problem.

I wasn't alive in Caesarea Maritima in 638 or Zaranj in 661.. but Islam was. And it was murdering back then just like it is now.

I was also not alive when Romans were raping Britain, or when Saxons were butchering locals of British isles.

Says me.

And you're a world authority?

A better authority than you.

You BET your last your penny that it does.

Saddam being a dictator has nothing to do with your attacking Iraq. You befriended Saddam when he was in your interest. You befriend dictators like Husseni Mubarak, and a whole host of other dictatorships. The excuses you put forth are SHAMEFUL.

It's called political expediency. It's the same as Pakistan being allied with the Chinese.. even though China is killing Uigur Muslims in Xinjiang.

And what made you attack Iraq was another political expediency. Don't make it sound like you did something out of noble intent.

YOU LOOTED India. You took the treasures that you unearthed from the temples and other ancient sites in India to Britian. You PUMPED your "industrial revolution" on the raw materials you LOOTED from your colonies. You built "infrastrature" ONLY to strengthen and sustain your occupation. You built railway networks ONLY to easily transport arms and ammunitions witin the occupied territory. You errected boards outside your bars and offices, which wrote "NO INDIANS BUT DOGS".

You built DANG, you apologist for imperialism.

Really, a BIG REVENGE IS PENDING ON YOU.

That isn't true.
As it has been pointed out to you by an Indian called “Ram”.

An India who sucks up to British. An India who now probably lives in Britain.

Well, many more Indians disagree with you.

Britain achieved more good things in India in a couple of centuries then Islam had archived in a Millennia.

You apologist for imperialism, yet Islam never erected such boards like "No Indians but Dogs". You achieved quite a lot.

Qur'an tells us even a MORE different story.

No it doesn't. The Koran is not a history book. You cannot ascertain anything about Islamic history from it alone.

But we CAN asscertain Islamic commandment from Qur'an.

This have everything to do with fact that your society is rampant with paedophilia, while Muslim societies are squeaky clean compared to your filth ridden societies.

It's illegal. People caught having sex with children are criminals who are put in prison. And are regarded as the worst kind of criminal.

Yes, getting 1 or 1 and a half year in comfortable prison, and getting out to bang more children.

THIS IS YOUR SOCIETY. Majority of paedophiles are NOT even caught.

What matters is effect, not pretense - legal or otherwise.

Peadophilia is the very core of your society. No British girl is brought up without experiencing this special British treat. YUCK!

YOu may be old enough to remember that. I don't give a fig. I only know, as a father, that if I were to be given a chance to raise my daughter in Britian or Pakistan, I would not only immediately choose Pakistan without a second thought, but I would spit at the person for even mentioning Britain as an option. That's what I think about your societies as far as satety of children goes.

I suppose that's why so many of your country-folk come here to live then?

They come to live here, but dont' you complain about them not integrating with your society?

Rings some bell?

Look at any report on crime in any country, you'll find the UK has far less of a problem with crime than Pakistan in just about every category.

NOT in paedophila!

[charleslemartel]

Balls_of_whatever,

You are simply spamming and trolling. You are rehashing the arguments of your opponents childishly and it is really making you look more stupid than you really are. Here are some examples from your previous post:

No it's not.

YES it is.

You like so many Muslims cannot accept that Islam lies at the root of all your problems.

And you like many non-Muslims cannot accept that non-Islam is the heart of all the problems of the world.

Islamic terror doesn't need revenge as a motive, it kills when it likes and makes excuses afterwards.

And non-Muslim terror doesn't need any excuses, it oppresses and kills Muslims (and others) when it feels like and makes excuses afterwards.

See above.

You see above.

No. Islamic violence is expected wherever Islam infects.

No. Non-Muslim violence is expected wherever Islam goes. You committed violence, revenge is pending.

[

Don't you have anything original to say? How can you, when even your Allah did not have anything original to say in his book.

[Ex_muslimah]

You know BoT, you keep banging on about non-muslim terror, but, you NEVER mention about the suicide bombers, (there was one is Baghdad today) and the 7/7 bombings, I was at King's Cross a WEEK after the bombing and it was horribly eerie.

You are trying to say that the British are oppressing the people? we don't go about suicide bombing people, we are trying to liberate people from the evil Saddam did, and you are not denying either after the Taliban doing public shootings is wrong either, do you?

British and American troops in the muslim states are there to liberate people from a malicious and extremely hateful regime, ones I hope NEVER comes to Britain and to be honest with you, you are brainwashed to such an extent that you can't even see the evils YOUR koran promotes, we're not blind and ignorant at all, we see it in the koran and hadith, yet it is the moslems themselves which seem to turn a blind eye to it.

It's true what they say, Islam makes a man leave his brain

[Chiclets]

This is not even Tu-Quoque.

Sadly this is pathetic.

Hey Bouncing Balls, please stop advocating for islam, you end up maligning islam even more.

[Balls_of_Titanium_1]

Which makes 7/7 a revenge.

So take revenge, and don't cry when you get the whip.

Ok.

You butcher Iraqis and this must not be an issue with their Muslim brothers?

What Muslim brothers? Those who are killing each other on a daily basis by exploding bombs in each others' mosques? [/quote]

No. Those who watched in their homes on their TV sets hell brought upon Iraqis - yes, you may remmeber it by the name "shock and awe"!

IT IS. You created the mayhem by invading Iraq and destroying the existing system their.

The people DIRECTLY killed due to your military attacks number in the hundred thousands. While the people killed overall surpass the milion mark - and they are half yoru responsibility, for you destroyed the whole country.

That is rich coming from a Muslim apologist. Have you read any history of Muhammad and the Caliphs? You are reaping what your uswa hasana has sown.

And 9/11 was your reap. MUCH MORE reap is pending.

You forget that you are directly responsible for the death you caused through military strikes. They run into hundreds of thousands.

Read the bloody Muslim history of conquests.

Read the bloody European history of conquest. Oh, closer to your home - read the bloody history conquest of Americas by Europeans.

Also read your hate manual called Quran which teaches nothing but hatred and violence against other humans.

Read your hate manuals called your constitutions, which teach nothing but suppression of other nations.

The violence in India is due terrorism against minorities - like Gujarat riots, church burning, nun raping, Mosque demolishing, and other rioting events. It is also due to India's illegal and brutal occupation of Kashmir - something that YOU are responsible for. You authorized UNFAIR partition. You Britishers have A LOT to pay.[b]

Thank your stars that India is ruled by dhimmis. And you have proved that you have zero knowledge of history. It was Muslims who demanded partition and got it. As I said, make Britishers pay as much as you want but don't start crying and whining when Brits kick your butt back.

I am not saying partition was wrong. I am not saying Muslims didn't demand it. I think you misunderstood just like the other poster.

I am saying that Britain authorized unfair partition at the very end. Kashmiri conflict arised due British unfairness. Lord Mount Batten accepted fake accession request from Dogra, the ruler of Kashmir, to India - when even if Dogra's request was geniune should not have been accepted given the overwhelming majority of Kashmiris being Muslims and wanting to ally with Pakistan.

Lord Mount Baten, just like many British men, was corrupt. He had relations with the sister of Nehru. Lord Mount Baten's sister was attracted to Nehru.

You have no right to remove any government.

Yes we have.

NO, you don't. If you have, then so do Muslims. 7/7 was an attempt to remove Tonny the Poodle.

Just as Muhammad attacked the nations which did not believe in Islam, we have the right to remove any Islamic government we choose.

Just as you have the right to remove any government, Muhammad had the right to attack non-Islamic nations.

In doing so, we will be only following the footsteps of your uswa hasana. You have any objections to that?

Muhammad did what you want to do and are doing. What problem you have with him?

Really, a BIG REVENGE IS PENDING ON YOU.

So why do you come crying and complaining like a cowering child when you take revenge and your butt is kicked in response?

No, the butt would be kicked in another aggression as the revenge [bwas actually the response[/b] to the aggression.

But then you will have more revenge pending on your butt!

There is a verse in the Qur'an to that effect.

[Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for your faith, and drive you out of your homes and support others in driving you out, from turning to them for protection (or taking them as wali). Those who seek their protection they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

The words of an imaginary Allah carry no weight; he contradicted himself many times, spoke of silly beliefs of 7th century which Muslims foolishly try to project as scientific miracles.

Words in Qur'an do not matter? Then why does it matter to you when you say Qur'an advocates hate? Are you not the one who is contradicting himself? You should leave this site as you haven no problem with what is said in the Qur'an, right?

WE are to deal kindly and justly wtih peaceful kufar. Undoubtly it doesn't include you, as you justify invasion, imperialsm and looting.

Just like you did by fanning out of the Arabian desert to loot and murder the world? Remember, it was Muslims who attacked the other countries, and not the other way round.

Remember, the Europeans colonized the world, not the other countries.

You cannot fight against peaceful non-believers. Only aggressive non-believers, like British who attack Muslims

We are not only not to fight peaceful non-believers, we are to deal with them justly and kindly..

Muslims too are attacked when they are aggressive and plan terror attacks.

Who was planing terror attacks against Britian which led to Britain attack Iraq?

Well, since America is planing attack on Iran, does Iran has the right to attack America in advance, by your logic?

Planning attacks is a big enough crime which justifies a military attack and killings; remember your uswa hasana.

Remember your countries' attitude.

Heck, Muslims are always aggressive as they plan to hoist the flag of Islam all over the world; that is an act of aggression and Muslims have no rights to complain.

It is you wish to hoist the flag of non-Islam on Muslim countries. YOu have no right to complain.

This have everything to do with fact that your society is rampant with paedophilia, while Muslim societies are squeaky clean compared to your filth ridden societies.

So why do Muslims hanker for living in the filth ridden societies? Hypocrisy, thy name is Muslim.

Yes, they go to live in western societies, to enjoy the riches, to get easy employement, to enjoy easy women - for corrupt Muslims - but they DO NOT INTEGRATE INTO YOUR SOCIETIES. Don't you complain about that repeatedly? They do not want their children to be brought up in your culture. Therefore, they effectively make separate "enclaves" to save their culture.

There is a big difference then between the above and between a girl getting deflowered at school, parents shockingly finding that their teenage daughter is pregnant (actually, it's no longer a shock in Britain), thoughts about dumping the child or to briniging it to this world, and the resulting tensions. Heck, we cherish that difference.

It isn't any worse than a nine year old getting deflowered by a 56 year old uswa hasana. It isn't any worse than raping a woman the same night you have killed her husband. It isn't any worse than killing the men, capturing the widows and then raping, enslaving and selling them off. Don't come talking to us about morality. Morality and Muhammad have nothing in common apart from the letter "M".

Now you are getting angry. Truth hurts, right?

All the above doesn't change the situation your poor girls are in.

YOu may be old enough to remember that. I don't give a fig. I only know, as a father, that if I were to be given a chance to raise my daughter in Britian or Pakistan, I would not only immediately choose Pakistan without a second thought, but I would spit at the person for even mentioning Britain as an option. That's what I think about your societies as far as satety of children goes.

Here I agree with you. Not only you should do that, but you should persuade every Muslim in the western world to move to the Islamic paradises. [/quote]

I can do one better. I can tell them that even if they live in western societies, they should at least make every attempt to not let the influence of western culture shape their lives or the lives of their children; to protect Islamic culture and ethos wherever they go. Hey, Muhammad's (p) exmaple shows that migration is a noble deed. It's not that I have a big problem with migration itself (personally I have, but that's not the issue), but the main thing is that even if you migrate to a kufar country, where immorality is rampant, you should not integrate into the society.

Not all things in the west are bad. If they have good finiancial system (which is crumbling any way) then you can avail that. If they have good educational system, you can avail that. You can avail goodness wherever you may find it, but you must refrain from evil even if iti s in your home - you must throw it out.

That's what Islam teaches.

Even if you are able to persuade one or two other Muslims, I would be greatly grateful to you. There will be one more benefit to you; you will find it difficult to get a 53 year old groom for your 6 years old daughter in the filth ridden western societies. That kind of moral living is possible only in Dar Ul Islam.

You know that you are speaking nonsense.

So when are you moving?

I am in Pakistan.

[Ex_muslimah]

It shows actually, that seems to be general pakistani moslem viewpoint, the west is the evils, Islam is the goodness of life.

Islam can't be further from the good things in life than what it already is, I keep saying this, but, Allah is Satan, how can a loving and forgiving god allow for what the koran allows?

Answer: It is not a forgiving god at all! so therefore, it is logic that Satan is the god!

[Maersk]

What can we say about Muslims being the idiot Islam make them out to be. Muslim countries today are also the result of colonization in the true sense of its word because Modk the Pedophile left its legacy behind. Ignorance. S. America were also colonized but the people of S. America has moved on. They have not and are not begruding the Spainards or Portugese for its history. So, what made these bastard Muslims in N. Africa, Middle East who are colonies of past Islamic Empire hate the West anymore than they should of Modk the Pedophile. IT must be the sheer utter stupidity of Muslims. But that is Islam - it has to come from one of greater evil.

[fudgy]

Nope kid. Last chance, three candies: Hershey, Snickers, and M&M. Seems like you aren't interested in the candies, and if you are of Indian descent you better hit your ABC and multiplication table son. Otherwise, you will have a very angry pappa if he finds out that you are wasting your time in FFI instead of studying.

[Chiclets]

Nope kid. Last chance, three candies: Hershey, Snickers, and M&M. Seems like you aren't interested in the candies, and if you are of Indian descent you better hit your ABC and multiplication table son. Otherwise, you will have a very angry pappa if he finds out that you are wasting your time in FFI instead of studying.

Amazing, just amazing