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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:19 pm
by Chiclets
Maersk wrote:
Chiclets wrote:
Maersk wrote:Is it a habit of atheists to rely on Christianity when arguing against the Gods found in Hindu mythology.


Well we go after the biggest group, besides you rightly pointed out about Hinduism as Hindu mythology, it's a myth, nothing more needs to be said about it. Now just imagine if I was to say the same about the virgin birth of Cheesus and point out all the absurdities of the holy buybull :lol:


Its the water of Mother Ganga, I swear. The fact that Hinduism is nothing more than mythology did not escape you is noteworthy. The thought of a blue elephant dancing in a tutu should be fascinating for you. It is as absurd as Islam being critiqued by Hindus with help from Christianity. Maybe it is Buddhism that should be in Question instead. :tongueout:


There is no religious belief that is superior to any other religious belief, they are all absurd and baloney, talking of elephants, reminds me of this

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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:48 pm
by Yohan
Chiclets wrote:
Yohan wrote:There is no difference between an atheist and a believer in Hinduism. They both can be fanatic Hindus. Actually a God believing Hindu is a more tolerant. Hinduism is defined more by a way of life such as caste system, chauvinism and so on, and not necessarily by belief in any God. The thought that all humans are equal is unnatural for Hindus. Any religion which believes in equality among human beings and sees God in each of them is considered as an intrusion or an assault by Hindus. Such threats have to removed. Hindus would use every technique to do so.
Oh Yo Yo is talking out of ass again. A hindu has beliefs, an atheist does not, genius. Maybe we need to start a new thread to discuss all you just spoke out of your ass, what say you Yo Yo, or should I call you sh!t stirrer :lol:

I have said many times that the first sign of a Hindu losing out in a debate is their use of profanity. It is a part of Hindu culture!

The founder of the Hinduness movement, where what makes a Hindu is clearly defined, was an avowed atheist, one Veer Sarvarkar (a Brahmin).

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:55 pm
by Chiclets
Yohan wrote:I have said many times that the first sign of a Hindu losing out in a debate is their use of profanity. It is a part of Hindu culture!

The founder of the Hinduness movement, where what makes a Hindu is clearly defined, was an avowed atheist, one Veer Sarvarkar (a Brahmin).


You can say all you want as long as you can substantiate, but this is all I can say about you ....

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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:38 pm
by Maersk
That's no elephant in a blue tutu. That's atheist Brahmin enjoying his belief.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:02 am
by Yohan
Maersk wrote:That's no elephant in a blue tutu. That's atheist Brahmin enjoying his belief.

Never trust a Hindu claiming to be an atheist. He is trying to trick the naive. He is Hindu to the core!

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:55 pm
by Chiclets
Yohan wrote:
Maersk wrote:That's no elephant in a blue tutu. That's atheist Brahmin enjoying his belief.

Never trust a Hindu claiming to be an atheist. He is trying to trick the naive. He is Hindu to the core!


See now your posts are reduced to what, all you are doing is calling me a Hindu, when all along in this thread my argument has been that all religious beliefs are nothing but baloney including yours Yo Yo.

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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:52 pm
by skynightblaze
Yohan wrote:
Maersk wrote:That's no elephant in a blue tutu. That's atheist Brahmin enjoying his belief.

Never trust a Hindu claiming to be an atheist. He is trying to trick the naive. He is Hindu to the core!


How about keeping your baloney to yourself? I am a hindu Brahmin by birth but I am an atheist by nature.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:53 pm
by Chiclets
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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:17 pm
by Yohan
skynightblaze wrote:
Yohan wrote:
Maersk wrote:That's no elephant in a blue tutu. That's atheist Brahmin enjoying his belief.
Never trust a Hindu claiming to be an atheist. He is trying to trick the naive. He is Hindu to the core!
How about keeping your baloney to yourself? I am a hindu Brahmin by birth but I am an atheist by nature.

Doesn't mean a thing! As I said the philosophy of Hindutva (Hinduness) was created by an atheist Brahmin. You will live a Brahmin and die a Brahmin, like the rest of them, a Hindu to the core.

In any case, Let me see if you atleast pass my litmus test. Do you and family buy beef at the market, bring it home, cook it and eat it?

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:28 pm
by charleslemartel
Yohan wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:
How about keeping your baloney to yourself? I am a hindu Brahmin by birth but I am an atheist by nature.


Doesn't mean a thing! As I said the philosophy of Hindutva (Hinduness) was created by an atheist Brahmin. You will live a Brahmin and die a Brahmin, like the rest of them, a Hindu to the core.

In any case, Let me see if you atleast pass my litmus test. Do you and family buy beef at the market, bring it home, cook it and eat it?


So all vegetarians are Hindus?

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:52 pm
by skynightblaze
Yohan wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:
Yohan wrote:Never trust a Hindu claiming to be an atheist. He is trying to trick the naive. He is Hindu to the core!
How about keeping your baloney to yourself? I am a hindu Brahmin by birth but I am an atheist by nature.

Doesn't mean a thing! As I said the philosophy of Hindutva (Hinduness) was created by an atheist Brahmin. You will live a Brahmin and die a Brahmin, like the rest of them, a Hindu to the core.

In any case, Let me see if you atleast pass my litmus test. Do you and family buy beef at the market, bring it home, cook it and eat it?

I am a vegetarian. I would not buy beef nor would I buy any meat because I love animals and not because I believe in hinduism. My elder brother on the other hand eats non veg food and has tasted beef but he is not a complete atheist.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:08 am
by Yohan
skynightblaze wrote:
Yohan wrote:Doesn't mean a thing! As I said the philosophy of Hindutva (Hinduness) was created by an atheist Brahmin. You will live a Brahmin and die a Brahmin, like the rest of them, a Hindu to the core.

In any case, Let me see if you atleast pass my litmus test. Do you and family buy beef at the market, bring it home, cook it and eat it?

I am a vegetarian. I would not buy beef nor would I buy any meat because I love animals and not because I believe in hinduism. My elder brother on the other hand eats non veg food and has tasted beef but he is not a complete atheist.

I know Brahmins very well. I have never been to a Brahmin's house where beef has ever been brought in to cook. That has been the case for 2000 years atleast. So who is going to believe you, with your claims? BTW, you are not the only Hindu in this forum who had used the facade of 'loving animals' to justify not eating beef. You are a Hindu pretending to be an atheist, and there are so many like you. You have failed the test!

I know what you are saying is baloney! Have you ever worn leather shoes? Leather belts? How about your purse? If you are a lover of animals, you would never have any leather based products. They all come from animals killed for a purpose.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:45 am
by Chiclets
Yohan wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:I know Brahmins very well. I have never been to a Brahmin's house where beef has ever been brought in to cook. That has been the case for 2000 years atleast. So who is going to believe you, with your claims? BTW, you are not the only Hindu in this forum who had used the facade of 'loving animals' to justify not eating beef. You are a Hindu pretending to be an atheist, and there are so many like you. You have failed the test!

I know what you are saying is baloney! Have you ever worn leather shoes? Leather belts? How about your purse? If you are a lover of animals, you would never have any leather based products. They all come from animals killed for a purpose.


Atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities. Atheist is the opposite of theist. That's it. Nothing else. But Yo Yo :lol: can you tell me what exactly is your understanding of Atheism ?

Anyways just in case you want to know about what atheism is go to http://atheistliberty.com/node/41?gclid ... awodDVtzxw and find out for yourself.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:49 am
by Maersk
So, indeed there is one or many who will rubber stamp and endorse a change of "golf membership" for atheist practicing Brahimins. :lotpot: Call it whatever names blue elephant in tutu want to conjur up with. It is still flowing from the same source, Mother Ganga!1 It is the water.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:44 am
by skynightblaze
Yohan wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:
Yohan wrote:Doesn't mean a thing! As I said the philosophy of Hindutva (Hinduness) was created by an atheist Brahmin. You will live a Brahmin and die a Brahmin, like the rest of them, a Hindu to the core.

In any case, Let me see if you atleast pass my litmus test. Do you and family buy beef at the market, bring it home, cook it and eat it?

I am a vegetarian. I would not buy beef nor would I buy any meat because I love animals and not because I believe in hinduism. My elder brother on the other hand eats non veg food and has tasted beef but he is not a complete atheist.

I know Brahmins very well. I have never been to a Brahmin's house where beef has ever been brought in to cook. That has been the case for 2000 years atleast. So who is going to believe you, with your claims? BTW, you are not the only Hindu in this forum who had used the facade of 'loving animals' to justify not eating beef. You are a Hindu pretending to be an atheist, and there are so many like you. You have failed the test!

I know what you are saying is baloney! Have you ever worn leather shoes? Leather belts? How about your purse? If you are a lover of animals, you would never have any leather based products. They all come from animals killed for a purpose.


Isnt it funny you ask a question and answer it yourself and thereby come to the conclusion that I am a hindu? Its a matter of personal choice whether I use the leather products or not. I use them but I cant give any justification why I use them but not eat meat but still I aint a believer in hinduism.

You may keep stupid concepts to yourself and believe whatever you want.Let us for the sake of argument assume that I dont eat flesh of animals because I am a hindu.Merely not eating flesh of animals doesnt make anyone a hindu . There are other beliefs of hindus which I dont hold to .I do not visit temples. I dont perform Puja .I dont follow any religious ceremony . I dont follow religious festivals like Gudi Padwa,Makara Sankranti,Vasant Panchami,Maha Shivaratri,Rama Navami,Hanuman Jayanti. To make one a hindu one needs to follow these festivals devotedly. Now there are certain festivals like Diwali ,Raksha Bandhan where I am obliged to follow them since everyone around me does follow them so I cant stand the odd man out . Raksha Bandhan is a way where your sister ties you a rakhi which is a symbol of strengthening the bond between a brother and a sister. I cant hurt sentiments of my sisters and thats why I have to follow them but that doesnt mean I believe in them.I also dont believe in the concept of Karma . I dont believe in Bhagwad Gita , Puranas,Upanishads ,Vedas or Ramayana or Mahabharata .I dont believe in any mythological characters . What else is required to prove that I aint a hindu? Have you ever seen me defending hinduism on this forum? If you had raised arguments against hinduism I wouldnt have even come here to oppose.


Not only hinduism is crap your christianity is a load of nonsense and crap so dont feel comfortable here by showing faults in other religions and spew out your venom against atheists just because you hate those who are hindus by birth. . I know very little about your religion though but still that is sufficient for me to make a conclusion. Anyway I am not going to respond to your crap allegations henceforth and this will be my last post.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:14 pm
by Yohan
skynightblaze wrote:
Yohan wrote:I know Brahmins very well. I have never been to a Brahmin's house where beef has ever been brought in to cook. That has been the case for 2000 years atleast. So who is going to believe you, with your claims? BTW, you are not the only Hindu in this forum who had used the facade of 'loving animals' to justify not eating beef. You are a Hindu pretending to be an atheist, and there are so many like you. You have failed the test!

I know what you are saying is baloney! Have you ever worn leather shoes? Leather belts? How about your purse? If you are a lover of animals, you would never have any leather based products. They all come from animals killed for a purpose.
Isnt it funny you ask a question and answer it yourself and thereby come to the conclusion that I am a hindu? Its a matter of personal choice whether I use the leather products or not. I use them but I cant give any justification why I use them but not eat meat but still I aint a believer in hinduism.

You may keep stupid concepts to yourself and believe whatever you want.Let us for the sake of argument assume that I dont eat flesh of animals because I am a hindu.Merely not eating flesh of animals doesnt make anyone a hindu . There are other beliefs of hindus which I dont hold to .I do not visit temples. I dont perform Puja .I dont follow any religious ceremony . I dont follow religious festivals like Gudi Padwa,Makara Sankranti,Vasant Panchami,Maha Shivaratri,Rama Navami,Hanuman Jayanti. To make one a hindu one needs to follow these festivals devotedly. Now there are certain festivals like Diwali ,Raksha Bandhan where I am obliged to follow them since everyone around me does follow them so I cant stand the odd man out . Raksha Bandhan is a way where your sister ties you a rakhi which is a symbol of strengthening the bond between a brother and a sister. I cant hurt sentiments of my sisters and thats why I have to follow them but that doesnt mean I believe in them.I also dont believe in the concept of Karma . I dont believe in Bhagwad Gita, Puranas,Upanishads ,Vedas or Ramayana or Mahabharata .I dont believe in any mythological characters . What else is required to prove that I aint a hindu? Have you ever seen me defending hinduism on this forum? If you had raised arguments against hinduism I wouldnt have even come here to oppose.

Not only hinduism is crap your christianity is a load of nonsense and crap so dont feel comfortable here by showing faults in other religions and spew out your venom against atheists just because you hate those who are hindus by birth. . I know very little about your religion though but still that is sufficient for me to make a conclusion. Anyway I am not going to respond to your crap allegations henceforth and this will be my last post.

Have you killed flies, cocroaches, other house bugs and so on? I bet you did! Your claim of being a vegetarian because of love of animals and has absolutley nothing to do with Hinduism, is just that. Crap! The very fact that you are answerless when asked about using leather products answers everything. In the real world almost all animal rights activists are non-vegetarians, unless one is from Hindu background.

You are a vegetarian because you were brought up in a Hindu Brahmin family with its strict adherence to many Hindu hangups such a vegetarianism. Cooking and eating beef in a Brahmin house is a capital crime! Such are the reasons why you are a vegetarian. You are just another atheist Hindu. There are so many like you. I bet you are married, if you are, to someone of your caste too, as Hinduism demands.

I repeat, being a Hindu has as much to do with following Hindu culture, if not more, than worshipping its Gods. In other words, one can abstain from all Hindu religious rituals, but still is a Hindu 100%. At a minimum one has to keep ones caste, and next not denigrate Hinduism with beef for example. In both these aspects you have failed my litmus test.

(Your excuses sound as hollow as a Jew who claims to be an atheist but refuses to eat pork.)

She is Taliban and this the Guy is Smart Indian taliban

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:18 pm
by yeezevee

Re: She is Taliban and this the Guy is Smart Indian taliban

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:19 pm
by Chiclets
yeezevee wrote:http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10324

very Smart guy...

yeezevee


Thanks for posting that video Yez, I enjoyed it :)

Re: She is Taliban and this Guy is very Smart Indian taliban

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:29 pm
by yeezevee
Thanks for posting that video Yez, I enjoyed it

you Indians have to work out a bit.. LEARN TO WRITE A POLITE DECENT LETTERS to people like those you see in news papers...leaders of the community etc.. irrespective of whether they respond or not...

Send a very selective articles from FFI., Politely Argue with them to think about your Indian its future and let them know there is something like Faith Freedom International on web to log-in read whenever they have free time. There is little doubt, web sites like FFI are helping people of Indian subcontinent WHO ARE MUSLIMS AND NON-MUSLIMS enormously specially interns of religious psychology and Islamic effects on their minds. So of the Non-Muslims of subcontinent should work a bit harder.. Same goes to Muslim friends., Muslim guys Reading sites like FFI will cut down the probability of educated Muslim kids/guys taking planes and ramming in to buildings or going to Bombay and murdering 100s of innocent folk. At least these Muslims guys., they take their HEAT AND FRUSTRATION in FFI ....some time with some foul words..

with best regards
yeezevee

Re: She is Taliban and this Guy is very Smart Indian taliban

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:06 pm
by Nosuperstition
Idesigner wrote:Later smritikar called those Gandharva marriages " Rakshas marriages". Those "love marriges" invariably took place between upper caste male and lower caste female.Some Aryan kings had liasons with fisherfolk women, not otherway around. Pratilom marriages were frowned upon, culprits were severely punished.


I have seen in films about how lovers get married in temple premises by exchanging garlands and mind you that is not rare.It is quiet a common occurence in love oriented films.The temple priest never objects to it.