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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:15 pm
by Maersk
Dark brown skin is fair and fair is beautiful, as beautiful as the first snow in Jaipur? :biggrin:

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:18 pm
by secularmindedhindu
Maersk wrote:Aye ... translated well. As the Indians from the sub-continent fan out into the world they will take these baggage with them. The previous generation of INDIANs who have assimilated well into other societies are often the first to notice these traits, traits that they have lost. New Indians will Indianize the world with Saree, Indian Halal Food, and of course "Hinduness."
What is your point?

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:20 pm
by secularmindedhindu
Yohan wrote:Indians just don't get it! Get an English dictionary and look it up. 'Fair' has nothing to do with skin color or any color. Indians consider light skin beautiful, so they started using the word 'fair' for it. The use of the word 'fair' for Indian's skin color shows their own inferiority complex. I hope you get it this time.
I do not know which english dictionary you are using. The word 'fair' could be used to mean pale or light complexion of the skin. the word beautiful cannot substitute it in this context.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:29 pm
by Yohan
secularmindedhindu wrote:
Yohan wrote:Indians just don't get it! Get an English dictionary and look it up. 'Fair' has nothing to do with skin color or any color. Indians consider light skin beautiful, so they started using the word 'fair' for it. The use of the word 'fair' for Indian's skin color shows their own inferiority complex. I hope you get it this time.
I do not know which english dictionary you are using. The word 'fair' could be used to mean pale or light complexion of the skin. the word beautiful cannot substitute it in this context.
Let's say what you say is also true for Indian's sake. The word's true meaning is 'of pleasing in appearance' or 'beautiful', as I said. Why can't dark brown skin be 'fair' or 'pleasing in appearance', or 'beautiful' to an Indian?

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:35 pm
by secularmindedhindu
Yohan wrote:
secularmindedhindu wrote:
Yohan wrote:Indians just don't get it! Get an English dictionary and look it up. 'Fair' has nothing to do with skin color or any color. Indians consider light skin beautiful, so they started using the word 'fair' for it. The use of the word 'fair' for Indian's skin color shows their own inferiority complex. I hope you get it this time.
I do not know which english dictionary you are using. The word 'fair' could be used to mean pale or light complexion of the skin. the word beautiful cannot substitute it in this context.
Let's say what you say is also true for Indian's sake. The word's true meaning is 'of pleasing in appearance' or 'beautiful', as I said. Why can't dark brown skin be 'fair' or 'pleasing in appearance', or 'beautiful' to an Indian?
A word in English can have different meaning in English. The exact meaning for the word depends on the context where it has been used.

Take for example -
This is a good story.
He left the place for good.
the word good has very different meaning in these two sentences.

Similarly, 'fair complexion' does not mean 'pleasing in appearance' or 'beautiful'. It means pale or light complexion of the skin.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:51 pm
by Yohan
secularmindedhindu wrote:A word in English can have different meaning in English. The exact meaning for the word depends on the context where it has been used.

Take for example -
This is a good story.
He left the place for good.
the word good has very different meaning in these two sentences.

Similarly, 'fair complexion' does not mean 'pleasing in appearance' or 'beautiful'. It means pale or light complexion of the skin.
OK, let's assume that 'fair' has different meanings. Then why insist on using a word with different meanings to describe 'light skin'? Indians have no problems in using phrases like 'dark skinned person'. So why can't they be consistent? Why can't they just use 'light skinned person'? Why do they insist on using the word 'fair' which means a lot more favorable to describe light skinned people? Why don't they give the same advantage to describe a dark skinned person?

Let me see if you still get what I am trying to get at.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:18 pm
by sunshine
Indian subcontinent has produced some best clowns in the world and yohan is one of them.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:23 pm
by Maersk
There is no point in modern Indians going back to the roots for being clownish. It would be like re-inventing the wheel and re-discovering the zero all over again. :prop:

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:03 pm
by sunshine
Maersk wrote:There is no point in modern Indians going back to the roots for being clownish. It would be like re-inventing the wheel and re-discovering the zero all over again.
:BS: :BS:

:BS:

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:53 am
by Yohan
secularmindedhindu wrote:
Yohan wrote:Of all the people I have come across, Indians (all subcontinentals actually) are the most sensitive when it comes to skin color. They are the most color conscious people on the planet. They can accurately differentiate so many shades of dark brown skin. If one has the lighter shades, they would say it is 'fair' skin. The word fair means beautiful and has nothing to with any shade of color. Such is the adoration of Indians towards light skin, also contempt towards their own dark skin.

About 95% of all Indians are dark. Richer or upper crust may have a little more sprinkling of light skin, that's it, gotten by 'fair skin' select breeding. (Brahmins have more of this sprinkling, but they are so few.). So if Indians are so proud of their identity and Indianize everything, as the above article says, it ought to start with taking pride in themselves, the way they look, rather than stealing someone else's looks and identity. When will Indians stop such shameless behaviors?
The discrimination based on skin colour is nothing new outside India. The black people from Africa were made slaves to work for the white skinned people of European origin. The black had to fight for their rights all the way in USA and only recently they have got their full civil rights.

In contrast in India there has never been such a deep-rooted discrimination based on skin colour. In India one can have people with very fair complexion, fair complexion, brown complexion and dark complexion. The skin colour varies widely from person to person. So Indians never made laws to institutionalise discrimination based on skin colour. But there is subtle feeling among many people that one with fair complexion is superior.
Indian skin color do not vary widely. It appears to vary widely only to those who live in India who can identify a thousand shades of dark brown skin. Subcontinentals are recognized all over the world for their dark skin, and caucasoid features. Light skin as I have said is an exception to the rule, may be 5% max.

In India, if a girl child is born a little dark, as is usually the case since 95% of Indians are dark, she is taunted, and harassed all her growing up years for being dark, by members of her own family who themselves are dark. Parents worry about going bankrupt by being forced to pay exorbitant dowry to get their dark skinned daughter married. Light skinned girls can get married without even paying any dowry, as potential grooms line up drooling at the prospect of sleeping and having sex with one.

A lot of Indian culture revolves around caste based and "fair skinned" bride selection and marriage, as anyone can digest by watching Indian movies. But the real life behind this dominant Indian cultural aspect is horrible. Such is this bloody sick Indian culture!

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:59 am
by Yohan
secularmindedhindu wrote:
Yohan wrote:McDonalds in India need to start another menu in addition, called 'Modern Menu' with real beef. Atleast backward Hindus and Muslims would get to feel what rest of the people on this planet eat. Optional of course!
Fortunately, McDonalds has better business sense than you. They understand the market demand.

In India you have to do business with an 'Indian menu' and not your so-called 'mordern menu'.
Nonsense! McDonalds was intimidated by backward Hindus and Muslims to serve only religious food. Do you want me to bring up old news items to prove it?

These backward subcontinentals are so obsessed with religion! It is sick!!

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:17 am
by sevens
The Taliban are just a scourge on planetary civilization, a devolution of religion. The Taliban will be wiped out in judgment.

It will not last and the Universal Government is opposed to the Taliban, there cup is full of sins against humanity and who have been dumbed down by the Last Rebel who they follow in deception.

Its simply evil. They will not enter Paradise for all there terrorist actions against civilization and individuals.

Al Qaeda are in the same boat. There paths of no truth all lead to personality extinction by the Ancients of Days....that is there path extinction! along with their awful and dumbed down sophistry.

Hezbollah and Hamas are tainted with the same brush and will be punished and taken out by the Universal Government in the Judgment of mankind. There is great penalty in tempting Paradise through feeble minded violence in using the name of Paradise....a grave Sin and insult to the Father in Paradise!

The Universal Government of Jesus the Sovereign does not hear the prayers of Violence and terrorism against fellow man. All there prayers go nowhere and the Angels cannot and will not help them unless they fully repent to the Father and mankind and go back to their families and stop all violence and humble themselves before the Sovereign of this Universe.

This also applies to warring nations to.

If the Taliban and all others stop war and do this in the physical demonstration then the US and others will follow suit in respect and war will cease and Paradise will be more favorable but currently the Taliban and all other terrorist groups have no chance. They are like the walking dead as if they were not born.

Sevens

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:09 am
by Ram
sunshine wrote:Indian subcontinent has produced some best clowns in the world and yohan is one of them.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. The guy is totally blinded by hatred of everything Indian.

Take the case of the word "fair". Everyone knows that this word has more than one meaning. To be fair - here the word means to treat everyone with equality. She has fair skin - the woman has lighter skin. In India, the fair skinned people are considred more desirable, that does not mean the word fair means beautiful. The fair skinned people can be ugly too and dark skin people can be beautiful.

In the West, people like to have tanned skin. Tanned skin is considered more desirable in Canada and the USA. So much so that there are tan salons in every city. Not all tanned people are beautiful. In the West fair skinned people are reffered to as pale skinned people. Pale skin is not considered desirable.

Anyway this arguement about fair skin, dark skin or pale skin is uttely inane. So let Yohan stew in his own juices.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:51 am
by BlacKStaR
Ram wrote:
sunshine wrote:Indian subcontinent has produced some best clowns in the world and yohan is one of them.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. The guy is totally blinded by hatred of everything Indian.

Take the case of the word "fair". Everyone knows that this word has more than one meaning. To be fair - here the word means to treat everyone with equality. She has fair skin - the woman has lighter skin. In India, the fair skinned people are considred more desirable, that does not mean the word fair means beautiful. The fair skinned people can be ugly too and dark skin people can be beautiful.

In the West, people like to have tanned skin. Tanned skin is considered more desirable in Canada and the USA. So much so that there are tan salons in every city. Not all tanned people are beautiful. In the West fair skinned people are reffered to as pale skinned people. Pale skin is not considered desirable.

Anyway this arguement about fair skin, dark skin or pale skin is uttely inane. So let Yohan stew in his own juices.

Yohan is one of the best Hindu I have ever met. Truly a great Hindu.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:30 am
by Maersk
Isn't if fair to say the Gods are also divided on the issue of fairness in India. Link Even Gods should know a little bit about Racism. What color is your Shiva?

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:16 am
by sunshine
@Maersk


JUDGE NOT, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgement ye judge, YE SHALL BE JUDGED: and with what measure Ye make, IT SHALL BE MEASURED TO YOU AGAIN.

-MATTHEW 7:2

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:24 am
by yeezevee

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:31 am
by yeezevee
She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy
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Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:58 am
by Maersk
Created by the whims of Gods there is no reasons for Indians not to fight each other over races.

Re: She wants to understand Taliban., Indian Lady Arundhati Roy

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:34 am
by sunshine
I shall make mine enemies drunk with BLOOD , AND my sword shall devour FLASH: AND THAT WITH THE TH BLOOD OF THE SLAIN AND OF THE CAPTIVES, FROM THE BEGINING OF REVENGERS UPON THE ENEMY.

DEUTERONOMY 32:42