viduur wrote:Hinduism is all about the spirituality & wisdom only...and not about the Dress or the Social codes, which keep on changing with the times. But who can remove such illusions & confusions or biased opinions, if someone still feel Hinduism is synonymous with Manu Smiriti only, when it was never.
I know you keep harping that Hinduism is all about spirituality and wisdom, and not about anything else.
And this Truth is hurting your ego too much becoz you are a Christian zealot.
Yohan wrote:Hindus in this forum also keep saying they had abandoned Manu smrithi, they accuse being a product of some mad Brahmin, and later taken up by the British to beat up Hindus.
The discussions on Manu Smiriti only provided me an opportunity to peep into your mind. I can see thru your whole caliber & agenda. I can only say you have gone MAD in your love for your dear Manu Smiriti, which is dead now, and can not be revived to give a life to my Dear Yohan.
Yohan wrote:Who do you think would believe such things?
May be everyone except a few Islamists, Zionists or a Christian Zealot like you, becoz they do not want to believe in anything except their morbid beliefs.
Yohan wrote:There would be more believers if you have added that that is the Hinduism of your dreams, or that is what you want Hinduism to be.
I just enjoy the Hindu way of life, and feel Christians & Buddhist can also enjoy similarly their way of life becoz core of their belief systems are also based on spirituality only. I don't know what Christians means by the words like "holy Spirit etc", but to me Jesus Christ was an embodiment of Love only. Love means the most important constituent of spirituaity, in the same manner like "Hate" forms the basis for "terrorism". This can also be summarised as under:
LOVE : Hate :: Spirituality : Terrorism.
I find no difference the basic tenets of Hinduism, Christianity & Buddhism becoz they are essentially based on love i.e.Spirituality only. Followers of these Phil have also deviated a lil-bit in past but they could never subvert the basic tenets or basic chraracter of these 3 philosophies. If Christianity deviated, then "state" became independent of "church". If Hinduism was hijacked by Brahminists sometimes, then Rama, Krishna, Adi Sankara, Ravidas, Nanak, Tulsidas, Meerabai, DayaNanda, Vivekananda, Gandhi etc brought it back to the tracks. Buddhism also passed thru many kind of ups & downs before settling down forever in the spiritual conepts laid by Buddha.
You may look at Jesus Christ as the only savior, while I see him like an incarnation in the series of Rama, Krishna or Buddha.
But the things are very different with Islam & Judaism. Islam is based on Terrorism, while Judaism seems to be just Racism.
Yohan wrote:Even to a casual visitor to India, it becomes quickly obvious that Hinduism is very different from what you said. All he has to do is to go to a McDonalds and order a Hamburgher. He would get one, but no beef! (BTW India is the only country in the world where McDonalds is NOT allowed to serve beef!). Then there are stories of foreign tourists being harassed for public displays of affection, and all the other stuff I have already written. Hindus seem to be dismissive of such things and become annoyed when such items are brought up. They seem impervious to the fact that such behaviors are products their religious culture, and hindering progress to modernity. There seems to an irrational pride, and out of touch with reality her.
Why do you want to believe blindly any kind of wrong picturisation of India, and do not want to trust the debates you held with me for so many days? Is it not something wrong with you also? I don't believe into concept of racial superiority of any kind( Indian/ Foreigner), therefore evaluate the opinion of anyone on the basis of merit of their logic & argument only.
However, I feel fault may lie lie on both the sides.Foreigner's opinion can also be biased due to very obvious reasons. The pereceptions of visitors may also be wrong sometimes, when they have illusions like India, Hinduism & Hindus of India are synonymous.
Many people finds lot of solace in the spiritual legacy of India. Many towns of wretched North India, like Varanasi & Rishikesh-Haridwar & Gaya always remain full of Foreign visitors throuhout the year becoz Foreigners find lot of spiritual solace by staying there for months even sometimes. I also wonder, why they like a place like Varanasi & Gaya so much but their liking for India for spirtual reasons is very obvious.
Let me say once again that Indias (Hindus) are very diversified people. When one think Hinduism & Hindus of India are synonymous then he is grossly mistaken...and you think Hinduism is synonymous with RSS. Why it is not possible that RSS has opted for grossly anti-Hinduism under the garb of Hinduism to pursue their vested interests & heinous agenda. But what happened finally. Even I did not imagined this kind of fate of BJP, although I always refuted their claims & credentials. They get exposed ultimately, and Hindus of india repose their faith in a REAL HINDU like SONIA GANDHI, who was born as a Christian in Rome, and REAL HINDU like MANMOHAN SINGH, who was born into a Sikh family, which migrated to India from Pakistan.These people represent the legacy of a real Hindu icon Gandhi.
Hinduism is not a "Property" of Hindus of India even, then what to think of the likes of RSS claims on it...Christianity can't be subverted or enslaved by the powerful office of the Pope, becoz these are the spiritual philosophies & legacies. But the doctrines like Islam can be misinterpreted by any Mulla-vulla living in the caves by issuing a FATWA. Similarly the Doctrines of Marx were manipulated by the Stalin & Mao to suit their purpose. Yesterday Kerala & Bengal voters annihilated Indian Stalins & Maos in absolutely non-violent manner.Doctrines have no relevance now.