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Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:25 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead in Lucknow

IANS | Oct 18, 2019, 05.02 PM IST

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Kamlesh Tiwari, leader of the Hindu Samaj Party. Photo: Video grab


Lucknow, Oct 18 (IANS) Kamlesh Tiwari, leader of the Hindu Samaj Party and a former leader of the Hindu
Mahasabha, was shot dead in broad daylight in Lucknow on Friday.

He was rushed to the trauma centre where he succumbed to his injuries.

According to reports, the attackers, wearing saffron clothes, walked into Tiwari's office in Khurshid Bagh area
on the pretext of handing over a box of sweets.

Soon after walking in, the assailants opened the box, took out the firearm and sprayed Tiwari with bullets and
fled.

Tiwari was taken to the trauma centre but could not be saved.

Tiwari, a former Hindu Mahasabha leader, had formed the Hindu Samaj Party in January 2017. Tiwari had
earlier served as the president of the Hindu Mahasabha.

He had made highly controversial remarks involving Prophet Muhammad. He was arrested and the National
Security Act (NSA) was slapped on him. Recently, the Lucknow bench of the Allahabad High Court revoked the
NSA against him.

Lucknow Senior Superintendent of Police Kalanidhi Naithani said police teams have been formed to arrest the
assailants.

This is the fourth murder of a right wing leader this month.

On October 8, BJP leader Chaudhary Yashpal Singh was gunned down in a similar manner in Deoband.

On October 10, a BJP leader Kabir Tiwari, also a former student leader, was shot dead in Basti which led to
student groups going on rampage and burning down government vehicles.

On October 13, BJP corporator Dhara Singh, 47, was gunned down by unidentified assailants in Deoband in
Saharanpur on Saturday morning.

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Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:29 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi





Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:24 pm
by idesigner1
Thanks AZ for bringing this news item to our attention.

Even in India no one demonstrated in support of this Kamlesh. All PC corrects were silent. Till this date I can't find out what this guy said about Profit of Islam!

Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:30 am
by marduk
Such is the nature of the religious bigotry group known as Islam. It's not enough that THEY submit to a foreign god, but they think those who refuse are bad people. I would have to think it's the cowards who actually submitted to the god of Israel who are the bad people. That's religious treason, going against the gods of your own land and promoting the god of another. Might not be so bad if the foreign nation whose god they surrendered their free will to was something other than a loser nation, but it's not, it's a nation which regularly got destroyed and their inhabitants taken into slavery. That's not a good thing for a god to have on its resume' but apparently Arabs have very low standards in foreign gods that they'll utterly submit to because they have no self respect whatsoever and consider their ancestors idiots, which is the only thing they got right.

Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:22 pm
by antineoETC
marduk wrote:I would have to think it's the cowards who actually submitted to the god of Israel who are the bad people.


No Jew would agree with you that Allah is the "god of Israel"! It was the refusal of the Yathrib Jews to accept that Yaweh and Allah are one and the same that is the basis of the Quran's antipathy to them.

Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:21 pm
by marduk
antineoETC wrote:
No Jew would agree with you that Allah is the "god of Israel"! It was the refusal of the Yathrib Jews to accept that Yaweh and Allah are one and the same that is the basis of the Quran's antipathy to them.


Well Allah is whoever its creators, the Arabs, say he is at the time, and so is YHVH, being that they're both mythological. I'm sure the Jews would deny that they're the same though, since they would know that YHVH would never interact with Arabs in any way, because Arabs were not part of the Exodus, when YHVH made a deal to be that particular group's god. Obviously if he said he would be their god then he must not have bee planning on including anyone else, or he would have said he would be their god, along with the Arabs and all the rest of mankind's god, which he did not. It was an renegotiation of the deal with Abraham, and the progeny of Ishmael was not included. Here's the paperwork.

Exodus 6:7 I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God, who brought you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians.


As you can plainly see, it would be wrong for Arabs to suggest that mankind submit to Allah, if Allah is the God of Israel, because we would be wasting our time and effort on a private god which has no contract with us to provide godly services. So is he the god of Israel or isn't he, Arabs? Even if a case could be made that Ishmaelites should be included in the contract, that still leaves non Ishmaelites out, so why should WE submit to Allah? To suggest that, the Arabs would be presuming that Allah doesn't respect his own contracts. So does he or doesn't he, Arabs? You can't just let any random person into Allah/YHVH's god plan. We're all doomed, we have no chance at salvation. We're goners, We weren't born into the right bloodline so we're little more than animals. Just forget about us and be thankful that YOU are safe from Allah's torture camps. To spread Islam to non-decendants of Abraham would clearly be a sin worthy of hellfire. It's the same as spreading Islam to dogs.

Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:46 am
by pelihat
In my country, there is this statement "Islam is peace".

But,
- they criticize other religion and disallow other criticize them
- when other criticize them, they will kill everyone who criticize them
- they disallow other religion build church or temple
- no politician who are not islam allowed to be president or leader
- there are so many discrimination from Islam

now, Islamic leaders try to spread his teachings to countries that do not use English like Korea, Japan, China, etc
I can't imagine if these country have major Islam
other religion should be in persecution like in my country

Re: Kamlesh Tiwari, ex-Hindu Mahasabha leader, shot dead

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:25 am
by antineoETC
pelihat wrote:In my country, there is this statement "Islam is peace".

But,
- they criticize other religion and disallow other criticize them
- when other criticize them, they will kill everyone who criticize them
- they disallow other religion build church or temple
- no politician who are not islam allowed to be president or leader

- there are so many discrimination from Islam

now, Islamic leaders try to spread his teachings to countries that do not use English like Korea, Japan, China, etc
I can't imagine if these country have major Islam
other religion should be in persecution like in my country


If one accepts the basic premise that Muhammad was the last prophet who brought the final perfect revelation to the world then it logically follows that OF COURSE Muslims should be free to criticize, mock, disparage, abuse "false" religions and their "deluded" followers. OF COURSE the "Religion of Truth" and He who first conveyed it to the world should be treated with utmost reverence. The moment a Muslim sees this filthy hypocritical double standard for just that is the moment the Muslim has ceased to be a Muslim.