yet another truck of peace

[manfred]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/23/worl ... index.html

Toronto collision leaves 9 dead, 16 injured; suspect in custody

Nine people are dead and 16 are injured after the driver of a van plowed into multiple pedestrians in Toronto on Monday, Acting Police Chief Peter Yuen said.
The driver, who authorities said hit pedestrians on a busy street north of downtown Toronto, was in custody after leaving a trail of destruction stretching up to a mile, officials said. The van has been located, Toronto Police media representative Gary Long said.
Authorities have not said publicly if the vehicle collisions were intentional. But a law enforcement official briefed on the situation in Toronto told CNN the incident is believed to be deliberate.

The incident happened in the North York area at the intersection of Yonge Street and Finch Avenue, police said.
The suspect covered between a half-mile and a mile in the vehicle, said Stephen Powell, district chief for Toronto Fire. "It looked like he was going straight, halfway through the sidewalk," Luelo said.

Official sources refuse to release the name, or even confirm the obvious, i.e. this was deliberate, given that he aimed for the pavement and drove on it for a mile and a half.... So it seems a safe bet this is yet another Muslim attack....

[Fernando]

Among the very long list on Google News there's
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/23/multiple-injuries-white-van-hits-pedestrians-near-major-toronto-transport-hub/

Toronto police are now reporting multiple fatalities following the incident which has seen a man, described as being “Middle-Eastern” in appearance, arrested a short distance away.

#BREAKING Witness to truck ramming into pedestrians tells local Toronto TV station that the driver looked wide-eyed, angry and Middle Eastern.

— Natasha Fatah (@NatashaFatah) April 23, 2018

I've sampled a few more links but nothing similar despite videos and accounts of a policeman dealing with the culprit.

[Fernando]

It looks as though that witness was a bit off the mark. The culprit has been named as Alek Minassian and doesn't look especially Middle Eastern (to me, at least).

Maybe the usual denial

Addressing a news conference in the evening, Mark Saunders, the Toronto police chief, said the suspect had not been armed and that there was nothing so far to suggest terrorism as a motive.

is correct this time.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/23/several-pedestrians-struck-van-toronto/

[manfred]

Ok, so far we have a man with an Iranian second name, "Minassian", driving for a mile an a half on a pavement (side walk, as they say in Canada) and when stopped by the police asked to be killed so as to enter paradise as a martyr. And of course nobody can work out any motive here... not even with the biggest magnifying glass.

Let's wait and see what emerges...

[Fernando]

Ah, sorry Manfred - I hadn't realised the name was Iranian. I was guessing Sri Lankan.

[Ariel]

Ah, sorry Manfred - I hadn't realised the name was Iranian. I was guessing Sri Lankan.

It is all a bit vague. It seems his parents are from Armenia. And the deadly van 'attack' is not part of organized terror plot, says Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale.

I wonder if we ever shall hear the true story about the man and the reason why he did it.

[Nosuperstition]

Ah, sorry Manfred - I hadn't realised the name was Iranian. I was guessing Sri Lankan.

Sri Lankan names have more intermittent vowels as is the case with all sub-continental names more so as in case of South Indian Hindu names as compared with the above name.

[sum]

Hello manfred

I understand that he asked to be killed but I was not aware that he said, or implied, it was so he could enter paradise. When he asked to be killed I immediately thought that it pointed to him being a muslim - not actual proof but very strongly suggestive.

sum

[idesigner1]

The guy is of Armenian origin .Some have Iranian citizenship but are mostly Christians.They hate Turks and Muslims. Looks like he was born in Canada.

According to Facebook he associated himself with Involuntary Celibacy organization. Guy just can't get laid!

His hero was Elliot Rodger founder of Involentary Celibate organization who was spurned by beautiful suntanned Southern California sorority white college girls!

There are lots of them in US . One guy killed woman in Gym who made fun of him when he asked for a date. She told him to kiss a frog!!

This is the fact guys. Don't blame Canada.Government has to make sure before pointing finger.Falsely implicating Muslims is not going to help FFI.

[manfred]

So the media line is he went into a killing frenzy because he had no girl friend? I still think we should wait to see wait eventually comes out. Somehow this is a very odd story, but, sure, many things are possible.

[idesigner1]

Yes Manfred there are numerous cases of spurned, obsessed lovers, boyfriends, stalkers, one sided lovers, unrequited lovers, husbands who carried out murders and sometime mass murders. In North America stalkers killing love object is a daily news. Well known case was in California where one sided office romance ended in almost demolition of office building. A TV movie was made about it.d

The issue is not hard to understand. In western society there is lots of exhibitionism, unabashed sexuality all around. On campuses there is illusion of Free love and expression of sexuality .Kissing and even intimate petting in grass by lovers is observed by frustrated!!! . Other side of the issue is there are lots of misfits, losers , dateless frustrated students.Their sexuality all bottled up and and we have Elliot Rodgers and Alec Minassian of Toronto.. According to one account this man killed more women than men.

[manfred]

To be honest ... not my field of expertise, so I take your word for it. It still sounds really mad to me though... If you are lonely and want a girlfriend, there are dating apps, singles clubs , singles holidays, night clubs, and God knows what else. For crying out loud, last month I married two people with downs syndrome. There seems to be someone for everyone. Perhaps if you cannot find any way to address the problem and cannot find the courage to ask for help, it may be possible that something "snaps".

But why would you indiscriminately hurt or kill people? What would that solve for you? And why would you do that in a way that, well, is pretty much a trademark?

Then there is also this... Canada has become a rather strange place, not very different from Sweden. Have seen that odd statement by Trudeau? In the same breath as expressing condolences to the families of the dead, he "apologises" for the damage caused to a Kebab shop by the attack, as that was equivalent. I guess he is terrified that some Muslims may take this as a reason to start a "revenge" attack... If that is the atmosphere in Canada, I am not sure how much you can take on face value from government officials.

Given though that we do not have as yet much else, this is as good an explanation as any. Until more information emerges, that is.

[idesigner1]

Yes Manfred it's hard to understand mentality of these weirdos. Most of the time guys are handsome, very intense, very sensitive , often awkward ,very shy, very lonely , often very intelligent young men.

The venues you suggested like online dating, introduction by others, dating apps etc seem beneath them. I also had same thought. They have strong ego.To them the things you suggested seem like arranged marriage!!They think girls should be attracted to them just by looking at them or just but talking to them That's what they have observed in highs school and college. Suggest rank and file college student in North America about blind dating or third party introduction! They will laugh at the suggestion.

In US also they are very careful before identifying the culprit or disclosing motive. Many legal and law order issues are involved.Remember that Florida Afghan gun man. They examined all angles.

Yes our liberal government is certified Dhimmi.

[Fernando]

Involuntary celibacy? Isn't that going to be an inevitable consequece of polygamy? And if young girls are married off to wealthy or important old men, a lot of men are going to be involuntarily celibate for a long, if finite, number of years.

[idesigner1]

Involuntary celibacy? Isn't that going to be an inevitable consequece of polygamy? And if young girls are married off to wealthy or important old men, a lot of men are going to be involuntarily celibate for a long, if finite, number of years.

According to " those guys" in modern campus dating game some guys get lots of dates where as others go home by themselves! Those are the one who go crazy.