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Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:01 pm
by Garudaman
manfred wrote:Garudaman, do you call THAT liberal or moderate?

shames the thief sounds not enough liberal for you?

Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 5:08 pm
by Nosuperstition
If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.[b] If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.


That is what they are basically interested in.Of course when there is a chance that the kafirs seek revenge for the crimes that were committed against them,they would try to cover it up by forcing them to convert to Islam just as Aurangzeb,the last important Mughal Emperor did.That is how you destroy evidence.

Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 1:45 am
by Hombre
SAM wrote:
manfred wrote:Well you got one thing right, your precious Qur'an is similar to "the Lord of the rings" in as much as it pure fiction, but it, compare with Tolkien's novels, of such lousy quality, that it really is only fit for the garbage.
The Bible is full of myths and contradictions. It's just a fairy tale for kids and stupid Christians like you, who believe in the story of Santa Claus and three little Christians pigs. :lol:

Iffo is a good illustration about leaving Islam... he does not trust any established religion, he is his own man, and he would never return to Islam. I wrote an article here once, some time back, on levels of spirituality, which also discusses Iffo's position, who shows greater understanding than you do.
He is a loser.

You are on level one: Follow rules, get accepted by other Muslims, pretend things you are not to make an impression. Belief is linked to fear.
Who cares about what you think?

Iffo is on level 4b.... having studied and rejected the dogmatic part of religion or at least realised that "teachings" are not the centre of religion, people either explore deeper meanings and meditative or mystic aspects of religion (4a) or choose to reject all established religion (4b)
And you're the lowest one under my soles.
I think we have had enough of this troll - masqurading as a "Muslim". Time to send this guy (SAM) stupid replies to the trash bin.

Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:54 am
by ronyvo
First, where are those figures come from? Yes, I agree that many of those Americans who join Islam are of Christian back ground due to the fact that the vast majority of Americans are from Christian back ground. I missed the point.
Second, those Christians who are converting to Islam are completely and entirely ignorant of BOTH faiths.
Thirdly, millions upon millions of Muslims are leaving Islam who mostly convert to Christianity. Most of the different authorities and press are corrupt, they are biased to the enemy ISLAM rather than facts, including Muslims ofcourse, they know how to add but not to subtract. They announce those who convert to Islam all over the place, but hush those who leave Islam.

As I keep saying from 2001 that Islam is on life support.

Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:39 am
by idesigner1
ronyvo wrote:First, where are those figures come from? Yes, I agree that many of those Americans who join Islam are of Christian back ground due to the fact that the vast majority of Americans are from Christian back ground. I missed the point.
Second, those Christians who are converting to Islam are completely and entirely ignorant of BOTH faiths.
Thirdly, millions upon millions of Muslims are leaving Islam who mostly convert to Christianity. Most of the different authorities and press are corrupt, they are biased to the enemy ISLAM rather than facts, including Muslims ofcourse, they know how to add but not to subtract. They announce those who convert to Islam all over the place, but hush those who leave Islam.
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As I keep saying from 2001 that Islam is on life support.


Christians of western country who convert to Islam come from nominal Christian background. Often they are alienated from there society. Many are gullible , naive and seekers. in west people are open minded and dont want to be prejudiced. Muslims take full advantage. Ask any Indonesian or Pakistani or Indian Christian whether they will voluntarily become Christian.. They won't unless converted by rape, plunder and force.

Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:39 pm
by Fernando
I wonder what the sex ratio of these converts is? I.e. what proportion of them are women fancying something different and converting to get it?

Re: Most Converts to Islam Were Raised Christian

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:58 pm
by idesigner1
Fernando wrote:I wonder what the sex ratio of these converts is? I.e. what proportion of them are women fancying something different and converting to get it?


From observing in Canada it looks like lot more women convert to Islam than men.Many get married to Muslims and convert. Muslims can be pretty charming, appear sincere and obsequious when they want women or want to get laid!!Also Muslim preachers target and groom women for conversions. Women as a group, take any religion, sect, cult , are known for their blind faith to most absurd religion , prophet whether he is Coresh or Christ, Mohammed, Rajnish or Charlie Manson! :heh: . Blind faith is their arsenal! Their defence mechanis. They
hate any logic, common sense or scientific inquiry. Reasons are many!!Its in DNA.They think their progeny and human race can be saved by faith only. Well things are changing as women pursue other venues of knowledge.