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Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their home

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:48 am
by pelihat
Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their home.

In this letter, it is specific addressed to Christian people to not praying in their houses in Cikahuripan.

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Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:56 am
by Hombre
which country & why?

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:11 am
by manfred
Cikahuripan is in West Java, just to the North of the city of Bandung, Indonesia. Because there are some very beautiful natural features nearby, such as the "green canyon", it is also a tourist spot, but a lesser known one.

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:02 pm
by Nosuperstition
Yes I too thought the same after seeing the language used.Now does 'Kepala desa Cikahuripan' actually mean Cikahuripan,the country of skulls going by my arbitrary translation of Sanskrit/Prakrit and assuming those Bahasa Indonesia words to be derived from Sanskrit/Prakrit and not Arabic?

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:04 am
by Garudaman
its Sunda language :

ci = water
kahuripan = kehidupan = life

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:34 am
by Nosuperstition
Garudaman wrote:its Sunda language :

ci = water
kahuripan = kehidupan = life


I wasn't translating word Cikahuripan,but rather words kepala desa.What exactly do those words mean in that Sunda language?Are they words of the native/indigenous language or loan words from Sanskrit/Prakrit?

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:00 pm
by Nosuperstition
Garudaman have you plagarised your nick from the Hindu text of Garuda Purana/the Eagle Purana that supposedly exists to install fear amongst believing Hindus about various punishments that await them after their death for the various sins that they have committed in this life?

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:42 pm
by manfred
NS, "garuda" means "eagle" in Indonesian. It is also the name of the Indonesian National airline, which is, btw, REALLY incredibly good and not too expensive either. Garudaman is from Java, I think.

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:09 pm
by Nosuperstition
manfred wrote:NS, "garuda" means "eagle" in Indonesian. It is also the name of the Indonesian National airline, which is, btw, REALLY incredibly good and not too expensive either. Garudaman is from Java, I think.


Garuda is the name of the mythological eagle god in Hinduism who is the chief means of transportation for Hindu God Vishnu.Perhaps even after giving up Hinduism,Indonesians in whom the Sanskrit loan words still remain in vogue and are recently being displaced by Arabic continued to use the word 'Garuda'.

Re: Non-Muslim in Cikahuripan disallow for praying in their

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:14 pm
by manfred
it is the standard word for "eagle", NS, as it has for centuries, and the religious connection is not really known to most people in Indonesia. It's just the animal, plain and simple. The reason why there are some Sanskrit words in the Indonesian language is because the whole archipelago was Hindu until the Muslims arrived. There are also a lot of Arab words, mostly connected to religion and law, and many Dutch ones, mostly around technology and transport, but also in the food area. Must recent arrivals are English ones, which are often around information technology and internet, but also fashion and such. Sanskrit term have persisted in areas like the calendar and maths, in some religious terms, and also sometimes in the names of people.