Dalit Bheel Hindu Dead-body Dug Up From Grave In Sindh By Is

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On the 6th of October, a Bheel young man named Bhooro Bheel died in a road accident. He was buried in a graveyard in his hometown Pangrio city in district Badin in Sindhudesh. When the local Peer Zulfiqar Shah came to know that the body belonged to a Hindu, he organized a mob of Islamic faggots and fanatically shut down the city and spread out hate speeches against the Hindus in general and Bheels in particular. His mobs dug out the grave of the poor man and the body was molested. Local fanatics Muslims inhumanely molested and dragged the Hindu dead-body as onlookers enjoyed the scene and clapped in a jiffy.The local SSP of Badin and the Peer summoned the distressed parents of the dead and abused them and asked to take the body somewhere else. They threw the body at the side leaving it a pray for wild birds living on decomposing stuffs.

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Islamic preachers have justified this deed. Those preachers have slammed humanist protestors who protested this heinous deed. There are several Fatwas coming on in this incident. The protestors, who are secular Sindhi nationalists, protested against the deed and asked the police to court them. The decrees claim that this deed was perfectly Islamic and it is righteous for the Muslims and they don’t need to be produced to the court.

Here is an Islamic Fatwa issued by an preacher named Abul Habib belonging to Jamia Rizwiya, based in Faisalabad, Punjab which says the following:

“According to Shariat (Shariah, the Islamic law) the Hindus or idolaters are infidels and snapping any relation with them is fully justified. It is the decree of Allah (Islamic God) that no Hindu or idolater shoule be allowed a grave in or close to an Islamic graveyard. The Muslims, who dug up the grave and threw it out, have performed their duty. This is neither any atrocity nor they need to be produced at the court of law.”


This is not the first incident to take place. There are numerous documented and far more undocumented such incidents. The same act was committed in this area on two other grave sites; two dead bodies were dug up from their graves some time ago. One of these dead bodies belonged to Mrs. Meeran, wife of Kewdo Kolhi, whose dead body was dug out by Kalifo Abdul Khaliq. They desecrated these gravesites. This person was an Extremist who brought a group of people and desecrated the body and no one knows where that body is located after the grave was opened and the body desecrated. Third incident occurred some time ago in village Khalifo Qasim near Pangrio city, the dead body of a 70 years old Maavo Kolhi, was buried in old joint graveyard but as the Religious Extremist group of people knew that dead body was a Hindu’s, they desecrated Maavo kolhi dead body, political parties, media and civil society showed no any reaction against this inhuman acts.

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This is just gross... It seems in Pakistan not even the dead are safe from bigotry.

Do the Hindus not have their own graveyards?

And is there no law against desecrating graves in Pakistan?

Also, I would be interested in seeing some links, if you have any...
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No child is born a Muslim, Christian, of of any other religion.
I would have thought that, likewise, no dead body can have a religion.
Religion, like life, is transitory.
‘Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions.’ Muhammad Ali Jinnah

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Bheels are an aboriginal tribe of India.First they converted to Buddhism.They could not pronounce Sanskrit,systematised sacred language of Hinduism or even Pali,the vernacular language spoken by those who converted to Aryan religions and the sacred language of Buddhism.So they pronounced 'Om Mani padmehum' a sacred chant of Buddhism as 'Aum aum padama'.

Later some of them became Rajputs of Hinduism and the rest might have been reduced to other lower caste status and to Dalit status and then some more might have become Muslims under Islamic rule.Under Hindu rule those Bhils that did not become the warrior caste were refused the right to fight muslims with sword by the Brahmins.The Brahmins might possibly have hoped that even victorious muslims would become Kshatriyas or warrior caste of Hindus.

But muslims were proud a lot might be because they believed they had superior morals.Also Brahmins in incorporating the outsiders as Kshatriyas were doing exactly what the decadent Egyptian priests of the Ptolemic period were doing , that is crowning outsiders as ruling elite after taking bribes in the form of donations to temples.I saw in the discovery channel that for this reason period of Ptolemic Egypt was considered decadent.Prior to that Egyptian history was considered glorious in that they were able to forcibly evict the Hyksos who were an Asiatic warrior tribe that conquered and reigned over Pharonic Egypt for 700 years.

Josephus Flavius Jewish historian and Jewish apologist in Rome,said that Jews were also one of the people who constituted the Hyksos.

Might be muslims thought just like those of the discovery channel that they would not want to part take of a culture that is decadent and might be they believed that they are morally superior due to monotheism.
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palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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The above person has light colored eyes which is not characteristic of people of sub-continent.Rapine was common in medieval periods as that was a form of turning a non-local to a local.I have observed these eye characteristics more so in muslims possibly because they resorted to slavery on a larger scale and rapine on a larger scale.Those features could also be due to the fact that fertile sub-continent was the land of milk and honey to many adventurous and courageous Islamic Ghazis of Central Asia in whom those features are common.Prior to Islamic invasions institution of slavery that too of the outsiders of sub-continent in India was on a very low scale according to many historians.Sad to see that muslims do not even show respect to those who are their genetic brothers just because they belong to a different religion.

After Islamic invasions,even Hindu Vijayanagar Empire picked up the institution of slavery as they had to counter annual jihads launched by muslims and wars mean lot of hardships where one cannot exclude slavery as a means of generating much needed funds.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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http://www.ias.ac.in/jgenet/Vol87No2/temp/jgen00117.pdf

It is interesting to note from above link that both U.P Brahmin and Rajput share same genetic affinity as they both hail from same place.Also of significant interest is that Reddiar and Gurava Naidu castes share same genetic affinity as they too hail from same geographical area namely Andhra Pradesh.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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These Telugu castes of Tamil Nadu are said to be behind the Dravidian movement in Tamil Nadu.No doubt,Tamil Brahmin intellectuals like Chidambaram of Congress party and Nirmala Seetaraman of BJP have divided up A.P without any consideration for millions that are likely to be effected in the form of loss of income in the form of pensions and jobs in Seemandhra , a process which in effect is nothing but killing indirectly. :x :x :x
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Hinduism has one vice in that it gives fake geneologies to kings as having descended from the sun god,the moon god etc and assigns them to the solar and lunar dynasties and thus seperates them from their tribal roots.

No wonder Rajputs who have some degree of Brahmin blood in them,have come to treat the castes lower than them like trash.This pattern is repeated all over India that has resulted in the hierarchy of castes and caste oppression.

Hence one can see that this benign Vedantic religion has only resulted in preservation of tribalism and not unification of peoples by exogamy as had been witnessed in case of Christianity in Europe and Buddhism in China and South East Asia.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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There is a verse in Telugu,surala janmamu,soorula janmamu,erula janmamu teliyaderikin.It means one really does not know the cause and place of birth of gods,of brave men and of tributaries of rivers.Shows that atleast some of the educated ones of those periods had the idea that all these geneologies are fake.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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There are a dozen or more stories about birth of rivers Ganga,Narmada( worshipped as goddesses),gods Ganesha and Karthikeya and many more contradictions in the Puranas.So birth of rivers and heroes deified as gods is not known properly.Similiarly the Shudra Reddy caste in Andhra Pradesh is made upcasted as having come from/originated from the feet of fierce god Veerabhadra when muslims completely decimated all the Kshatriyas in A.P to protect Brahmins.
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palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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One then should wonder why this caste originating from god Veerabhadra himself was denied education and it was reserved as a sole privilege of Brahmins resulting in some of them embracing Christianity , getting educated,knowing all about the evil intentions inherent in the religion and then resulting in a rebellion in Tamil Nadu whose reverberating effects we are seeing today in the division of Andhra Pradesh.

One should also know as to why the Kamma or Naidu community of Andhra Pradesh that played a significant role in stalling the Islamic expansionism for more than 250 years in the Vijayanagar Empire by providing many significant military stalwarts also participated in the Dravidian movement in Tamil Nadu.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Tribal hamlets are supposedly called 'palle' in the Mauryan period and later the word 'palle' was synonymous with 'village' in Telugu,Kannada and other South Indian languages.

Similiarly the original name of Ahmedabad , present day capital of Gujarat is Asha palle named after its founder,Hinduised Bheel named Asha Bheel.It was renamed by Karna Solanki as Karnavati after it was conquered by him and that in turn was renamed as Ahmedabad after muslims conquered it.

Also as Brahmins supposedly demoted conquered Kshatriyas to untouchable status according to Al-Beruni,conquered Hinduised Kshatriya aboriginal Bheels or Bhils might have come under Dalit category.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Can you put actual link of the source ?

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Muslims refused the offer of conferring of Kshatriya status upon them by the Brahmins.Rather they themselves converted Brahmins and Rajputs and conferred the lower status of Shaikh and Ajlaf upon them while they , the foreign invading muslims maintained the highest Sayyed/Ashraf status.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/sik ... 9I60URI81D
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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The Seleucid-Greeks also took aim at defiling the purity of the Jewish home. The Greeks declared that all women must first be brought to the local governing officer, who would first violate her. The profanity of this decree caused some Jews to marry on a day of the week when the Greeks were less vigilant. Others who were unable to circumvent the meddling officers abstained from marriage altogether, or did so in secret.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... tory1.html

Muslim sultans in Delhi and elsewhere are said to be well-educated and well versed in the philosophies of Greeks.Hence they imposed this practice of nativisation of non-natives in sub-continent , a practice that was also put to use by the English in Scotland.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Secondly,prevailing custom of woman having to spend the night in a muslim household brought shame to Rajputs.
http://www.sasnet.lu.se/EASASpapers/11Hatti_Sekher.pdf

Are they really that ashamed?I doubt it.For K.C.R of Telangana proudly proclaims that their culture is different to the culture of rest of Andhra in that theirs is a muslim mimicing Sherwani - Biryani culture with an admiration for Urdu words.If someone really oppressed you that much,you must hate him a lot.On the contrary,you seem to celebrate your subservience to an alien culture.Or might be politicians lie just for the sake of votes.

Might be that also explains why people of North India and Telangana can get also get along fine,atleast for time being and might be that is the reason why the Supreme Court did not stay the formation of new state.The Supreme Court struck down a ban on half naked bar dancing in Mumbai in Maharashtra saying that it would affect the livelihoods of 70,000 women(might be this is also the reason why the Devadasi system was allowed to flourish before muslim conquest), but it seemed not be concerned with the loss of decent livelihoods of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people of Seemandhra in Hyderabad.

Now that people of Seemandhra are seeking jobs elsewhere in Bangalore and Chennai after division,Hyderabad will turn out to be a haven for job seekers and businessmen from North India who share the same admiration for Urdu words and Biryani-Sherwani cultural traits as that of people of Telangana.I hate this sort of wily partisan thinking from self-proclaimed guardians of High justice. :x :x :x
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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