Obama is kissing 'hands' of the enemy

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Coshida wrote::lol:

What an intelligent response when confronted with the TRUTH and the actual quotation posted and referenced the insignificant Muslimahs response is :lol: how pathetic and how revealing. This just exemplifies how Mohammedanism damages brains. As of course Obama worship does too or is that maybe Obam just attracts the hysterically gullible either way that's what they are.
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ronyvo wrote:WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people in a new video with Farsi subtitles, saying the U.S. is prepared to end years of strained relations if Tehran tones down its bellicose rhetoric.
Look at the bias nature of western media. Why did they not say "alleged bellicose rhetoric" instead of simply "bellicose rhetoric" as if what Obama is saying is necessarily correct? I have seem many times on CNN that when objections to US state policy are expressed by other governments, they always use the word "allege". But not here. Why?

The way the western media is hyping up this story has only one explanation - they want to show the gullible masses that America is trying to make serious efforts (by emtpy rhetoric!) to reach out to the Iranians but the Iranians are refusing reconciliation, when the fact is, Iran has been making such gestures much seriously for the last ten years or so, without reciving any positive response.
In his message Friday, Obama had a warning for Tehran: "This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect."
A goodwill message with threats...

Well it is America which has to realize that it has to stop threatening Iran. Iran has the right to acquire nuclear technology.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Iran would welcome talks with the U.S. — but only if there was mutual respect. Iranian officials have said that means the U.S. needs to stop accusing Iran of seeking to build nuclear weapons and supporting terrorism, charges Tehran has denied.

Obama and his foreign policy team are looking for opportunities to engage Iran and help reduce tensions between the two countries, which increased during Bush's time in office.
Again, western media making categorical statements about US government's alleged sincerity to "reduce tensions" between Iran and America, not only falsifying facts, but more importantly, betraying the principles of neutral journalism.

This is a western ploy. Their mainstream media is as biased as one could get, but the way they present themselves gives the impression of neutrality, which makes their bias even more sinister, as the gullible and the naive can believe that what they are saying is really true.
"You, too, have a choice. The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations," Obama said. "You have that right, but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization."
Again, accusing Iran of terrorism and objecting to Iran attaining arms. Why the hell United States have thousands of nuclear war heads and continues to strive for its dominance in arms? What about attacks on sovereign nations like Iraq, do they not fall under state terrorism?

The White House said the United States still has serious differences with Iran, particularly on the threat a nuclear-armed Tehran poses to the region.
Again, if America has nuclear weapons, it is fine and dandy. If Israel is the only country in the ME to have nuclear weapons (and thereby the instigator for nuclear arm race in the region), it is fine and dandy too. But if Iran has the same, it poses a "threat" to the region? Apart from the vicious double standards contained in such a thought process, note the blatant bias exhibited by the above western media outlet. No quotation marks are used around "threat", nor any qualifcations, but simplay a categorical reiteration of US governmental policy as a matter of fact. Yes, western media is so unbiased and neutral! Not.

But aides said the president's message was a way to speak directly to Iranians about the U.S. commitment to work with the country.

The video also was an attempt to bypass government leaders. Obama has said there are unelected leaders in Iran who could change the countries' position of hostility.
Again, betraying his true intentions to destablize Iranian government and therefore the country. Yes, what a goodwill message!
The White House said a Farsi subtitled version of the video would be given to select news outlets in the region. At the same time, the video would be available online in English and with Farsi captions.

The holiday Nowruz is not Islamic; Iranians of all religions celebrate the 12-day event. Traditionally, the U.S. president and secretary of state release statements for Nowruz.

"For nearly three decades relations between our nations have been strained," Obama said in his video message. "But at this holiday we are reminded of the common humanity that binds us together."
Empty rhetoric won't work, when not only your actions, but even the rhetoric itself betray your true intention - which is anything but peace.

Obama is one of the poorest and cheapest bluffers in recent history.
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If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.
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Balls_of_Titanium_1 wrote:
ronyvo wrote:WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people in a new video with Farsi subtitles, saying the U.S. is prepared to end years of strained relations if Tehran tones down its bellicose rhetoric.

Wow the SERIAL THREAD RUNNING COWARD Balls of Glass is back and STILL running come on coward there is even a whole Thread dedicated to your THREAD RUNNING COWARDICE on here which you are RUNNING away from. But no like the egotistical arrogant Mohammedan you are you think you can just show up again with no shame and people will forget. NOT a chance COWARD.
Its here COWARD so don't keep running lets see if you have any BALLS at all.

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Cassie wrote:If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.
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Psycho Bunny wrote:Sunshine may have meant Khameini. It is easy to confuse Khomeini with Khameini (current Supreme leader) and also Khatami (the reformer).

But still - there are some serious problems with Obama's approach.

As he mentioned on Jay Leno, Iran's being responsible does not include supporting terrorism. This is a small improvement on the opinions expressed by the person he chose as Homeland Security adviser (Janet Napolitano) who recently declared that she had refused to use the word terrorism, calling it instead "man-caused disasters". Obama chose this woman in February, and she made that comment in her inaugural speech. Her justifications for it can be found here:
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But the way Obama has played fast and loose with certain issues, including Iran, while US and NATO soldiers are dying because Iran armed terrorists in Iraq is very worrying indeed. It should also be noted that his decision to install Richard Holbrooke as special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan has problems built in - while Holbrooke was negotiating the Dayton Accord in Bosnia, he knew that Iran was sending weapons to the side of Alia Izetbegovic, the (illegally occupying) President.

Obama recently offered Russia the choice of removing planned missiles from Poland and the Czech Republic, which his buddy Hillary Clinton admits have "always been to defend against Iran". Russia has been supporting Iran (and gets much of its oil/gas from Iran) and has helped build its nuclear power plant. Obama should have been a bit tougher before offering to dismantle what his own colleagues regard as a defence.

And most recently, Obama's comments about talking to "disaffected Taliban" (made on Airforce 1 to a NYT reporter) are just insane.

I do not give much for the birth certificate conspiracy theories. But I am very concerned that in his first 60 days of power, Obama is turning into some sort of Neville Chamberlain for those who are America's enemies.

And to Moderators - as this thread is not about birth certificate conspiracies, please do not merge it with another thread or dump it in the Garbage Can.
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Cassie wrote:If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.
Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.
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bot wrote:Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.
Why? We don't threaten your existence with nuclear arms. On the other hand, Iran threaten the world with nukes. Iran has been amply warned. If it persists, then we can use the "Muhammadan principle" of the pre-emptive strike.

If Iran wants to destroy America let it try. See what that gets you.
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Balls_of_Titanium_1 wrote:
Cassie wrote:If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.
Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.
They why not exercise that right? Are you waiting for that promised army of Angels or Ababils from Allah?

You Muslims never showed such compunction before!!!
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charleslemartel wrote:
Balls_of_Titanium_1 wrote:
Cassie wrote:If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.
Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.
They why not exercise that right? Are you waiting for that promised army of Angels or Ababils from Allah?

You Muslims never showed such compunction before!!!
Mohammedans always talk big but TINY LITTLE ISRAEL has whipped their asses countless times even though its 1.5 BILLION Mohammedans against just a few million Jews.
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