Obama is kissing 'hands' of the enemy

[Pragmatist]

P.S. I don't for one minute expect you to accept what I say even thought it is patently obvious to everyone except the most brainwashed OBAMANUTS that I am right as you seem to be on some psychotic vendetta against me as befits your Nick and I expect some more nonsensical personal ad hominem attacks from you.

Oh you poor baby... how terrible... the nasty fluffy bunny is on a vendetta against you? Where is Mr piggy (or is it Mrs piggy) to come and protect you?

Just because I make a post outlining how your manic obsessions are knocking the thread off course, and then you are claiming victimhood? My, it seems that someone here has a very thin skin indeed, and maybe it is time to take a dose of your own pills, Mr Pragmatist......

As expected you don't disappoint I hope the moderators will now take appropriate action against you for STALKING . As I carefully explained because I know you have difficulty understanding Obama's Mohammedan past is very relevant to this thread which has the clearly stated subject of trying to understand why Obama licks Mohammedan arse. So to ignore his upbringing in the self same CULT would be ludicrous and indeed psychotic akin to ignoring the 'elephant in the room' . But then you know all about ludicrous don't you as you post it all the time and this time was no exception. So the ONLY person spamming and trying to divert this thread by making personal attacks is YOU. Please refrain and let the big boys play there's a good little boy.

[Ariel]

As expected you don't disappoint I hope the moderators will now take appropriate action against you for STALKING . .

Sorry Pragmatist. No more banning said Mr Sina.

[Psycho Bunny]

As expected you don't disappoint I hope the moderators will now take appropriate action against you for STALKING .

Your ego knows know bounds. As if YOU would be worth stalking..... (Delusions of grandeur methinks)

As I carefully explained because I know you have difficulty understanding Obama's Mohammedan past is very relevant to this thread which has the clearly stated subject of trying to understand why Obama licks Mohammedan arse.

No - not relevant. This thread is about what Obama is doing right now in relation to foreign policy and engagements with the Islamic world - Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc.

Because you in your deluded fantasy assume that unsubstantiated theories about his past have the remotest bearing on the present, you are wrecking the thread.

There is a whole thread dedicated to the conspiracy theorists, but so far you have failed to put any substance into your unsubstantiated claims - which is why that thread is going on and on and on, with no apparent resolution.

I expect the reason why you are not contributing to this thread's actual subject is because you are - in reality - pig-ignorant about current affairs and what is going on in the world. Which is why your posts read like the rantings of a heckler, rather than someone with an informed view on the world.

[Pragmatist]

As expected you don't disappoint I hope the moderators will now take appropriate action against you for STALKING .

Your ego knows know bounds. As if YOU would be worth stalking..... (Delusions of grandeur methinks)

As I carefully explained because I know you have difficulty understanding Obama's Mohammedan past is very relevant to this thread which has the clearly stated subject of trying to understand why Obama licks Mohammedan arse.

No - not relevant. This thread is about what Obama is doing right now in relation to foreign policy and engagements with the Islamic world - Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc.

Because you in your deluded fantasy assume that unsubstantiated theories about his past have the remotest bearing on the present, you are wrecking the thread.

There is a whole thread dedicated to the conspiracy theorists, but so far you have failed to put any substance into your unsubstantiated claims - which is why that thread is going on and on and on, with no apparent resolution.

I expect the reason why you are not contributing to this thread's actual subject is because you are - in reality - pig-ignorant about current affairs and what is going on in the world. Which is why your posts read like the rantings of a heckler, rather than someone with an informed view on the world.

It is well noted that you are so naive and disorientated (take your medicine you naught boy) that you think that the LIAR Messiah's upbringing as a Mohammedan has absolutely no impact on his actions and prejudices now. What it does prove is that as a child he was subjected to Mohammedan brainwashing which is no doubt what makes him such an accomplished LIAR now. But you can neither see his lies or his Mohammedan arse licking nor his Allies insulting such is the deluded world that the blind Obama worshiper inhabits and are attempting to sanitize any debate which exposes Obama for the INCOMPETENT, INEXPERIENCED, LAUGHING JACKASS that he quite demonstrably is and which he proves on a daily basis. As they say give me the boy until seven and I will give you the man. Well until he was SEVEN he was brought up a Mohammedan so the relevance is overwhelming.

[Pragmatist]

As expected you don't disappoint I hope the moderators will now take appropriate action against you for STALKING . .

Sorry Pragmatist. No more banning said Mr Sina.

How very convenient for the Psycho.

[Psycho Bunny]

As they say give me the boy until seven and I will give you the man. Well until he was SEVEN he was brought up a Mohammedan so the relevance is overwhelming.

What a sweeping damnation of our apostates, including Ali Sina.....

[Pragmatist]

As they say give me the boy until seven and I will give you the man. Well until he was SEVEN he was brought up a Mohammedan so the relevance is overwhelming.

What a sweeping damnation of our apostates, including Ali Sina.....

Ahh but they are the ones who have REJECTED Islam nowhere EVER has your LIAR Messiah EVER rejected Islam in fact he is ON RECORD as having said the Islamic Call to Prayer and Shahada which HE HAS MEMORISED is the most BEAUTIFUL sound in the world. Obama not a Mohammedan don't make me LAUGH.

The Psychotic Lapin says Obama's documented and SELF ADMITTED Mohammedan upbringing has absolutely no effect or impact on his Mohammedan arse licking behaviour now . We say OH YEAH!!!!!!!! The cognitive dissonanve displayed by OBAMANUTS is astounding.



nation and world briefs
Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans
Denver Post Wire Report
Posted: 03/27/2009 12:30:00 AM MDT
Updated: 03/27/2009 12:58:19 AM MDT

CHICAGO — In a bid to get more Muslim Americans working in the Obama administration, a book with resumes of 45 of the nation's most qualified — Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and public servants, all carefully vetted — has been submitted to the White House.

The effort, driven by community leaders and others, including U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., was bumped up two weeks because White House officials heard about the venture, said J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, who sifted through more than 300 names.

"It was mostly under the radar," Williams said. "We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn't know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community."

[Coshida]

Ahh but they are the ones who have REJECTED Islam nowhere EVER has your LIAR Messiah EVER rejected Islam in fact he is ON RECORD as having said the Islamic Call to Prayer and Shahada which HE HAS MEMORISED is the most BEAUTIFUL sound in the world. Obama not a Mohammedan don't make me LAUGH.

Is he really ON RECORD as having MEMORISED the most BEAUTIFUL sound in the world?

I think you're a bit "special", Pragmatist. Not your fault obviously.

[Pragmatist]

Ahh but they are the ones who have REJECTED Islam nowhere EVER has your LIAR Messiah EVER rejected Islam in fact he is ON RECORD as having said the Islamic Call to Prayer and Shahada which HE HAS MEMORISED is the most BEAUTIFUL sound in the world. Obama not a Mohammedan don't make me LAUGH.

Is he really ON RECORD as having MEMORISED the most BEAUTIFUL sound in the world?

I think you're a bit "special", Pragmatist. Not your fault obviously.

Yes he is. How do you feel now supercilious insignificant Muslimah. Wow I really MUST be SPECIAL.

On February 27th, 2007, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies -- and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the world.

Original New York Times source -- has been deleted by the New York Times -- HERE is the Kristof article on another site.

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
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The conventional wisdom about Barack Obama is that he’s smart and charismatic but so inexperienced that we should feel jittery about him in the Oval Office.



In foreign policy as well, Mr. Obama would bring to the White House an important experience that most other candidates lack: he has actually lived abroad. He spent four years as a child in Indonesia and attended schools in the Indonesian language, which he still speaks.

“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own father and grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)

[Coshida]

[Pragmatist]

What an intelligent response when confronted with the TRUTH and the actual quotation posted and referenced the insignificant Muslimahs response is how pathetic and how revealing. This just exemplifies how Mohammedanism damages brains. As of course Obama worship does too or is that maybe Obam just attracts the hysterically gullible either way that's what they are.

[Balls_of_Titanium_1]

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people in a new video with Farsi subtitles, saying the U.S. is prepared to end years of strained relations if Tehran tones down its bellicose rhetoric.

Look at the bias nature of western media. Why did they not say "alleged bellicose rhetoric" instead of simply "bellicose rhetoric" as if what Obama is saying is necessarily correct? I have seem many times on CNN that when objections to US state policy are expressed by other governments, they always use the word "allege". But not here. Why?

The way the western media is hyping up this story has only one explanation - they want to show the gullible masses that America is trying to make serious efforts (by emtpy rhetoric!) to reach out to the Iranians but the Iranians are refusing reconciliation, when the fact is, Iran has been making such gestures much seriously for the last ten years or so, without reciving any positive response.

In his message Friday, Obama had a warning for Tehran: "This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect."

A goodwill message with threats...

Well it is America which has to realize that it has to stop threatening Iran. Iran has the right to acquire nuclear technology.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Iran would welcome talks with the U.S. — but only if there was mutual respect. Iranian officials have said that means the U.S. needs to stop accusing Iran of seeking to build nuclear weapons and supporting terrorism, charges Tehran has denied.

Obama and his foreign policy team are looking for opportunities to engage Iran and help reduce tensions between the two countries, which increased during Bush's time in office.

Again, western media making categorical statements about US government's alleged sincerity to "reduce tensions" between Iran and America, not only falsifying facts, but more importantly, betraying the principles of neutral journalism.

This is a western ploy. Their mainstream media is as biased as one could get, but the way they present themselves gives the impression of neutrality, which makes their bias even more sinister, as the gullible and the naive can believe that what they are saying is really true.

"You, too, have a choice. The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations," Obama said. "You have that right, but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization."

Again, accusing Iran of terrorism and objecting to Iran attaining arms. Why the hell United States have thousands of nuclear war heads and continues to strive for its dominance in arms? What about attacks on sovereign nations like Iraq, do they not fall under state terrorism?

The White House said the United States still has serious differences with Iran, particularly on the threat a nuclear-armed Tehran poses to the region.

Again, if America has nuclear weapons, it is fine and dandy. If Israel is the only country in the ME to have nuclear weapons (and thereby the instigator for nuclear arm race in the region), it is fine and dandy too. But if Iran has the same, it poses a "threat" to the region? Apart from the vicious double standards contained in such a thought process, note the blatant bias exhibited by the above western media outlet. No quotation marks are used around "threat", nor any qualifcations, but simplay a categorical reiteration of US governmental policy as a matter of fact. Yes, western media is so unbiased and neutral! Not.

But aides said the president's message was a way to speak directly to Iranians about the U.S. commitment to work with the country.

The video also was an attempt to bypass government leaders. Obama has said there are unelected leaders in Iran who could change the countries' position of hostility.

Again, betraying his true intentions to destablize Iranian government and therefore the country. Yes, what a goodwill message!

The White House said a Farsi subtitled version of the video would be given to select news outlets in the region. At the same time, the video would be available online in English and with Farsi captions.

The holiday Nowruz is not Islamic; Iranians of all religions celebrate the 12-day event. Traditionally, the U.S. president and secretary of state release statements for Nowruz.

"For nearly three decades relations between our nations have been strained," Obama said in his video message. "But at this holiday we are reminded of the common humanity that binds us together."

Empty rhetoric won't work, when not only your actions, but even the rhetoric itself betray your true intention - which is anything but peace.

Obama is one of the poorest and cheapest bluffers in recent history.

[Cassie]

If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.

[Pragmatist]

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people in a new video with Farsi subtitles, saying the U.S. is prepared to end years of strained relations if Tehran tones down its bellicose rhetoric.

Wow the SERIAL THREAD RUNNING COWARD Balls of Glass is back and STILL running come on coward there is even a whole Thread dedicated to your THREAD RUNNING COWARDICE on here which you are RUNNING away from. But no like the egotistical arrogant Mohammedan you are you think you can just show up again with no shame and people will forget. NOT a chance COWARD.
Its here COWARD so don't keep running lets see if you have any BALLS at all.

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[sunshine]

If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.

[Balls_of_Titanium_1]

Sunshine may have meant Khameini. It is easy to confuse Khomeini with Khameini (current Supreme leader) and also Khatami (the reformer).

But still - there are some serious problems with Obama's approach.

As he mentioned on Jay Leno, Iran's being responsible does not include supporting terrorism. This is a small improvement on the opinions expressed by the person he chose as Homeland Security adviser (Janet Napolitano) who recently declared that she had refused to use the word terrorism, calling it instead "man-caused disasters". Obama chose this woman in February, and she made that comment in her inaugural speech. Her justifications for it can be found here:
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But the way Obama has played fast and loose with certain issues, including Iran, while US and NATO soldiers are dying because Iran armed terrorists in Iraq is very worrying indeed. It should also be noted that his decision to install Richard Holbrooke as special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan has problems built in - while Holbrooke was negotiating the Dayton Accord in Bosnia, he knew that Iran was sending weapons to the side of Alia Izetbegovic, the (illegally occupying) President.

Obama recently offered Russia the choice of removing planned missiles from Poland and the Czech Republic, which his buddy Hillary Clinton admits have "always been to defend against Iran". Russia has been supporting Iran (and gets much of its oil/gas from Iran) and has helped build its nuclear power plant. Obama should have been a bit tougher before offering to dismantle what his own colleagues regard as a defence.

And most recently, Obama's comments about talking to "disaffected Taliban" (made on Airforce 1 to a NYT reporter) are just insane.

I do not give much for the birth certificate conspiracy theories. But I am very concerned that in his first 60 days of power, Obama is turning into some sort of Neville Chamberlain for those who are America's enemies.

And to Moderators - as this thread is not about birth certificate conspiracies, please do not merge it with another thread or dump it in the Garbage Can.

[Balls_of_Titanium_1]

If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.

Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.

[Cassie]

Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.

Why? We don't threaten your existence with nuclear arms. On the other hand, Iran threaten the world with nukes. Iran has been amply warned. If it persists, then we can use the "Muhammadan principle" of the pre-emptive strike.

If Iran wants to destroy America let it try. See what that gets you.

[charleslemartel]

If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.

Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.

They why not exercise that right? Are you waiting for that promised army of Angels or Ababils from Allah?

You Muslims never showed such compunction before!!!

[Pragmatist]

If Iran has the right to nuclear arms, then we have the right to nuke those arms out of existence.

Then so does Iran has the right to destroy America for possessing nuclear weapons on a much larger scale.

They why not exercise that right? Are you waiting for that promised army of Angels or Ababils from Allah?

You Muslims never showed such compunction before!!!

Mohammedans always talk big but TINY LITTLE ISRAEL has whipped their asses countless times even though its 1.5 BILLION Mohammedans against just a few million Jews.