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Re: Rebels in Syria

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:19 pm
by Ariel
Sexual Jihad in Syria

At least thirteen young Tunisian girls are said to have joined the rebels in the north of Syria. Their goal? Offer themselves as sexual workers for the opposition fighters. For months now, the Tunisian press has been denouncing this phenomenon of disguised prostitution, which leads young girls, more or less consenting, to participate in the jihad via sex.

A fatwa, attributed to a radical Saudi leader, Mohamed al-Arifi, and disseminated on the internet, legitimates this form of sexual slavery in the name of "holy war". Faced with concern, the Tunisian minister for religious affairs has asked Tunisians not to succumb to the siren calls of foreign Islamic preachers, who are trying to recruit the girls. He has passionately condemned this fatwa, which is not recognised by the religious institutions.

In reality the girls are said to have been recruited by pseudo-charitable associations and send to the Syrian "front". And rumours are going round, stirring up tension. For example the case, never verified, of the couple who divorced so they could go to Syria, allowing the separated woman to engage sexually with the mujihadeen, has been widely known. A video, shared on the social networks, has also stirred up great feeling. The parents of Rahmah, 17, tell how their daughter disappeared one morning. They learned later that she had travelled to Syria to join the "sexual jihad". Since then, Rahmah has rejoined her family, who are keeping her out of sight. Her parents say that she wasn't a fanatic but that she was influenced by Salafist students. They are said to have brainwashed her.

According to Al-Hadi Yahmad, a specialist in Islamist groups, in Syria, these fatwas can encourage girls to marry and consummate their union, before divorcing a few hours later. Salma al-Raqiq, a Tunisian opposition figure, has called "these jihad marriages" an absolute disgrace. She also denounces the fact that girls, sometimes minors, have been sent to Syria to marry the mujihadeen for 24 hours.

http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.ca/20 ... syria.html

Re: Rebels in Syria

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:38 am
by Jimi
Ariel wrote:
Sexual Jihad in Syria

At least thirteen young Tunisian girls are said to have joined the rebels in the north of Syria. Their goal? Offer themselves as sexual workers for the opposition fighters. For months now, the Tunisian press has been denouncing have been sent to Syria to marry the mujihadeen for 24 hours.

http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.ca/20 ... syria.html


We always hear how pious and chaste the Muslims are. And this is all BS. Muslim countries are big on prostitution. What is arguably the country biggest in prostitution? The Islamic paradise of Indonesia. It is basically legal and out in the open. They have a major HIV problem in part because of it. Because the pious Muslims in power did not want to face the problem, thinking it was a punishment on the wicked. The west told them that they had to do something or the whole country would get it and they did only after it was like a wild fire.

Muslims do temporary marriage. Don't let them tell you that only Shia do it. It is really big in Indonesia and they are Sunni. I think if there was a Shia mosque there, Allah would have commanded the faithful to burn it down.

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:57 pm
by Ariel
Channel 4 News has obtained new footage from Bilal Abdul Kareem an American Muslim, who is filming western jihadis. He says he wants to show the reality of their situation in Syria .

They seems such nice people...Unbelievable.


Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:40 pm
by Ariel
Syria: disillusioned rebels drift back to take Assad amnesty

Hundreds of men who took up arms against President Bashar al-Assad are defecting back to the government side, The Telegraph has learnt.

Disillusioned by the Islamist twist that the "revolution" in Syria has taken, exhausted after more than two years of conflict and feeling that they are losing, growing numbers of rebels are signing up to a negotiated amnesty offered by the Assad regime.

At the same time, the families of retreating fighters have begun quietly moving back to government-controlled territory, seen as a safer place to live as the regime continues its intense military push against rebel-held areas.

The move is a sign of the growing confidence of the regime, which has established a so-called "ministry of reconciliation" with the task of easing the way for former opponents to return to the government side.

Ali Haider, the minister in charge, said: "Our message is, 'if you really want to defend the Syrian people, put down your weapons and come and defend Syria in the right way, through dialogue'."

Mr Haider, who has a reputation as a moderate within the regime, has established a system in which opposition fighters give up their weapons in exchange for safe passage to government-held areas.

Rebel fighters have privately said that they are aware of the amnesty offer, and that some men had chosen to accept it, although they say that the numbers involved remains a small proportion of those fighting the government.

"I used to fight for revolution, but now I think we have lost what we were fighting for," said Mohammed, a moderate Muslim rebel from the northern town of Raqqa who declined to give his last name. "Now extremists control my town. My family has moved back to government side because our town is too unsafe. Assad is terrible, but the alternative is worse."

The prevalence of extremist Islamist groups in rebel-held areas, particularly in the north, has caused some opposition fighters to "give up" on their cause.

Ziad Abu Jabal comes from one of the villages in Homs province whose residents recently agreed to stop fighting the regime. "When we joined the demonstrations we wanted better rights," he said. "After seeing the destruction and the power of jihadists, we came to an agreement with the government."

Mr Haider said that he had attended a ceremony yesterday at which 180 opposition fighters rejoined the government's police force, from which they had previously defected.

Although it was not possible to verify this claim, when The Daily Telegraph previously visited the reconciliation ministry's headquarters in Damascus the office was crowded with the family members of rebels fighting in the city's suburbs who said their men wanted to return.

A ministry negotiator, who gave his name only as Ahmed, was in the process of arranging the defection of a rebel commander and 10 of his men from the Ghouta district.

"It took us three months of negotiation and this is a test," he said. "If this goes well, the commander says that 50 others will follow."

He described the steps taken to allow the return of fighters willing to lay down their arms. First, he said, a negotiator must cross the front line for a meeting on rebel-held territory. "We have to hope the rebel commander orders his snipers not to shoot us."

Would-be defectors were given papers allowing them to pass through Syrian army checkpoints, and then waited in a safe house until the officials could get their names removed from wanted lists held by the more hardline defence ministry and intelligence agencies.

The rebels "did not sign up to be part of extremist Islamist groups that have now gained influence", he said. "Now they want to come back to a normal life."

In the days before the regime took the town of Qusayr last month, The Telegraph saw mediators on the Lebanese border work with the Syrian army to secure an amnesty for fighters wanting to surrender.

The phone rang with desperate calls from the parents of the rebels. "These mothers know that this is the last chance for their sons. If they don't give up their weapons now they will die because they are losing the battle," said Ali Fayez Uwad, the mediator.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... nesty.html

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:23 pm
by Ariel
Of course. Very logical. :heh:

Aleppo rebel religious committee forbids ‘colonial’ croissants

A sharia committee in a rebel-held area of Aleppo issued a fatwa deeming croissants ‘haram’ (forbidden in Islamic law) because of their “colonial” significance, pan-Arab daily Asharq al-Awsat reported on Tuesday.

Croissants’ crescent shape celebrates European victory over Muslims, according to the fatwa (religious ruling).

Rebel-controlled areas of the Syrian city have experienced several strict fatwas recently from Islamic sharia committees.

Such edicts are uncommon in Aleppo’s society, which usually adheres to moderate Islamic teachings, Asharq al-Awsat reported.

A sharia committee in the city issued a fatwa on Facebook prohibiting “Muslim women wearing makeup and tight clothes that reveal physical features from going out.”

A fatwa issued by the Council of the United Judiciary, affiliated with the rebel Free Syrian Army, stipulated a year in jail for anyone not fasting during the holy month of Ramadan.

Samir Nashar, a member of the opposition Syrian National Coalition, called on the FSA to unite its forces in Aleppo and work to prevent the expansion of these committees.

There are civil movements resisting the extremist tendencies of such committees, he told Asharq al-Awsat.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety ... sants.html

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:10 pm
by Fernando
Ariel wrote:Of course. Very logical. :heh:

Aleppo rebel religious committee forbids ‘colonial’ croissants

A sharia committee in a rebel-held area of Aleppo issued a fatwa deeming croissants ‘haram’ (forbidden in Islamic law) because of their “colonial” significance, pan-Arab daily Asharq al-Awsat reported on Tuesday.

Croissants’ crescent shape celebrates European victory over Muslims, according to the fatwa (religious ruling).
But surely they're an anti-colonial symbol, representing the repelling of the Muslim colonists.

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:11 pm
by Ariel
Missing Clergymen Reflect Dangers for Christians in Syria
Regardless of who’s in power, Christians expected to suffer amid chaos.

ISTANBUL (Morning Star News) – The disappearance last week of an Italian Jesuit priest in Syria following the kidnapping of two other clergymen in April reflects the dangers Christians face in the war-torn country.

The Rev. Paolo Dall’Oglio, who spent three decades in Syria before the Syrian government deported him last year for helping victims of President Bashar al-Assad’s military crackdown, re-entered the country in late July. His mission, according to published reports: Implore leaders of the Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) in Raqqa to release hostages and to negotiate peace between Islamist militants and Kurds. He was reported missing on July 29.

His mission was dangerous but he had good relations with rebel groups, and his disappearance has prompted varied speculation, especially after Reuters reported that ISIS kidnapped him.

In the priest’s three decades in Syria he had labored to heal divisions between the country’s religious and ethnic factions. Abdelrazzag Shlas, an opposition activist in Raqqa, has said ISIS was angered by the priest’s condemnation of violence against Kurdish residents of Tal Abyad.

Dall’Oglio’s disappearance comes three months after the kidnapping of the Greek Orthodox and Syriac Orthodox archbishops of Aleppo. Paul Yazigi of the Greek Orthodox Church and Yohanna Ibrahim of the Syriac Orthodox Church were kidnapped near the village of Kafr Dael on April 22 while returning from the Turkish border on a humanitarian relief trip.

The abduction happened on the road to Aleppo from the rebel-held Bab al Hawa Province, where gunmen intercepted their vehicle and killed the driver. The clergymen’s fate is unknown.

Initially kidnappings of Christians in Syria were largely aimed at seeking ransom. But as Al Qaeda-linked groups established themselves in areas with sizable Christian populations, they began targeting Christians, threatening that they must convert to Islam or face rape, torture, murder and other aggression, said Middle Eastern Analyst Ahmad Majidyar of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).

“In the case of the Italian priest, the Al Qaeda-affiliated groups may also have been upset at his message of inter-faith and inter-ethnic harmony in Syria,” he told Morning Star News.

Dall’Oglio had served at the Monastery of St. Moses the Abyssian before being deported and was largely responsible for its restoration.

In the abduction of the Syrian archbishops, Syriac Orthodox authorities identified the kidnappers as Chechens, part of the international assemblage of militant Islamists that have flooded into Syria to oust Assad and set up a hard-line government.

Foreign-origin Salafist and jihadi groups have joined the homegrown Syrian rebels. The Al Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front is one of the strongest insurgent groups.

Christians Await Relief

Syrian Christians worry about the outcome of the civil war if groups such as these have a dominant voice in the county’s future.

Hundreds of Syrian Christians have been kidnapped since hostilities began in 2011, and thousands more have fled the country. Many have crossed over into Lebanon or Turkey, where they await legal or illegal means to reach Europe and obtain political asylum.

If a post-Assad Syria is dominated by Al Qaeda-affiliated groups, Christians will not be able to live or practice their religion freely, Majidyar of the AEI said.

“They would be given three choices: convert to Islam; leave the country; or suffer heavy punishments, including death and jizya, or the Islamic tax,” he said. “Even if Assad holds on to power, extremist Sunni groups are likely to maintain control in certain regions in the foreseeable future, and they will continue the persecution of Christian communities.”

Orthodox and Catholic Christians in Syria pre-date the Muslim presence, and also prominent in the country are the Greek Orthodox, Syrian Orthodox, Armenian and Assyrian churches, according to Operation World.

One analyst noted that the mix of religion and politics in Syria makes determining motives for kidnapping complex.

“The archbishops captured earlier this year were members of groups that were allied with the regime,” Kevin Newton, an analyst on Middle East social and political issues for Habbibi Consulting, told Morning Star News. “In the Middle East mindset, religious affiliation is much like we would regard membership in a political party.”

In the alleged kidnapping of Dall’Oglio, Newton added, the motive would have differed, as Al Qaeda may have sought to silence a voice that would “untangle some of that knot of religious affiliation and political viewpoint.”

Christians have been vulnerable since the beginning of the civil war in 2011 that has left more than 100,000 people dead, according to the United Nations. Unlike other groups, Christians do not have armed militias to protect themselves and are scattered across the country.

Rebel militias reportedly murdered Catholic Syrian priest François Murad on June 23. Islamic extremists abducted the Rev. Michael Kayal, 27, of the Armenian Catholic Church in Aleppo, as he rode a bus in February. Greek Orthodox priest Maher Mahfouz was also kidnapped. Syrian Orthodox priest Fadi Haddad, trying to negotiate the release of a kidnapped parishioner in Qatana, was himself kidnapped and killed last December.

Christians are caught between the opposition National Coalition and Assad’s government. For many, the worst prospect is the rebels taking power as a main fighting force, Jahdat al-Nusra, is an extremist group with an ideology similar to Al Qaeda. Such groups are global in nature and not answerable to the Syrian National Coalition or any regional country. Thus appeals from these groups fall on deaf ears.

The civil war evolved out of 2011 Arab Spring protests against the Syrian Ba’ath Party and decades-long rule of Assad’s family. After troops fired on protesters, these slowly changed into an armed opposition.

Assad family members are Alawites, a Shi’ite Islam sect that makes up only 12 percent of the population. They have marginalized Sunni Muslims, which make up three-fourths of the population, leading to sectarian resentment. Many analysts worry that such pent-up tensions will lead to a long, bloody insurgency similar to the Iraq War.

http://morningstarnews.org/2013/08/miss ... -in-syria/

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:21 pm
by Ariel
Disturbing report alleges killings of 450 Kurds in Syria

Unconfirmed reports have emerged detailing a new massacre in which 450 Kurds - including 120 children - were allegedly slaughtered by al-Qaeda-linked rebels fighting against the Syrian government. The report has sparked international concern.

According to Iranian TV channel Al-Alam, militants from the Jabhat al-Nusra Front attacked the town of Tal Abyad on Monday, killing 120 children and 330 women and elderly near the Turkish border.

The channel also ran horrific uncensored footage from the scene - the authenticity of which can’t be independently verified at this moment. For ethical reasons, RT will refrain from airing the video.

Neither the Syrian government nor the opposition has confirmed the report. RT contacted a number of sources, including several Kurdish interviewees, who testified that increased fighting has been taking place in their areas.

“The al-Nusra militants and other rebel forces surrounded the village,” Yasin Tarbush, the relative of one of the Kurdish attack victims, told RT. “They started going door to door, entering every house. If there were any men, they killed them and took the women and children hostage.”

Commenting on the reports, the UN Human Rights office in Geneva said they are investigating and if it confirms them, would consider it a war crime and seek that perpetrators are brought to justice.

“Armed groups also have responsibilities under international law and should not think that they are immune from prosecution,” Navi Pillay said in a statement.



Russia called on the UN Security Council to condemn acts of terrorism in Syria in unambiguous terms.

“We saw before some Security Council members reluctant to condemn terror attacks in Syria on the grounds that – as cynical as it sounds – those attacks are being carried out by people fighting against an obsolete regime,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said. “This position is absolutely unacceptable. No double standards can be applied to terrorism.”
Islamists on offensive

RT’s Irina Galushko spoke to Kurdish journalist Barzan Iso, who confirmed that “Al-Qaeda started attacking Kurdish villages on the 19th of July. After these attacks they kidnapped many Kurds. We don’t have a specific statistic,” he said, alluding to the fact that many of the areas are dominated by Jabhat al-Nusra and al-Qaeda-linked militants who do not allow Kurds to gain access and investigate.

Iso explained the Kurds’ non-allegiance to either side of the Syrian conflict: “Since the beginning of the events in Syria, the Kurds tried not to be a part of the civil conflict…there are non-Muslim Kurds, as well as Alawite Kurds – that’s why they tried to be away from [it]. But now, some of the opposition groups are using al-Qaeda and al-Nusra to attack Kurds. The main cause is that they have the mentality of radical nationalists. That’s why they are using al-Qaeda as an umbrella to attack the Kurdish people.”

Iso claims that when he spoke to members of the Syrian National Coalition, the political component of the West-backed opposition forces, they readily blamed the Islamist attacks against Kurds on the Kurdish drive for independence. Al-Nusra Front, an offshoot of an Iraq-based Al-Qaeda branch, is seeking to claim Kurdish territories for an Islamist state encompassing parts of Iraq and Syria, which the group wants to create.

The report follows other instances of heavy strife between ethnic Kurds and al-Qaeda-linked militants in historically Kurdish-settled northern and north-eastern Syria.

Kurdish neutrality stance strained

The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without a state of their own. They currently live in the bordering territories of Syria, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq. The idea of carving an independent Kurdish state has numerous supporters among Kurds, with host countries trying for years to oppose secessionism.

In pre-war Syria, the Kurdish population was denied some of the rights that other ethnic groups enjoyed. However in the early months of the conflict the government of President Bashar Assad gave a number of concessions to the Kurds, including granting citizenship to thousands of them.

Since then, Kurds have been trying to distance themselves from the focus of the civil war, forming militias to defend their territory, but otherwise not supporting any side. In recent months radical anti-Assad groups have been increasingly attacking Kurdish towns, which, according to some reports, has given Kurds an incentive to side more with the Syrian government.

On July 30, a Kurdish militia has announced its mobilization against al-Qaeda-linked militants in north-eastern Syria after the assassination of Kurdish opposition leader Isa Huso.

“We call on the Kurdish people…to step forward…anyone fit to bear arms should join the ranks of the Committees for the Protection of the Kurdish People (YPG) and to face the assaults of these armed groups,” the YPG statement reads.

The Suriya al-Ain news portal claims that the terrorists are executing Kurdish prisoners as “revenge on the Kurds, for defeats inflicted on them.” One week ago, al-Nusra militants attacked two Syrian towns, taking around 200 civilians hostage. It was reported that all of those abducted came from the families of soldiers of the Kurdish Brigades who were previously part of the opposition Free Syrian Army, but later defected to the Kurdish Self-Defense forces.

The Syrian Civil War – in which rebels are trying to topple the Assad regime – has been raging since 2011, with more than 100,000 people killed and nearly 8 million displaced, according to UN estimates.

Arming Al-Qaeda

Many Western countries and their regional allies, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, voiced their support for the less-radical anti-Assad forces. But the reality on the ground is that Al-Qaeda-linked jihadists, including Al-Nusra Front, are dominating the rebels.

The latest example is the takeover of a crucial military airport in northern Syria on Tuesday by Islamists-spearheaded forces. The airport, which had been locked down since October, was taken in a two-day assault by a coalition of nine rebel groups, including some supported by the West, according to a McClatchy report.

“The victory again underlines the leading strategic impact being played by militant Islamists, particularly in northern Syria,” Charles Lister, who is monitoring the fight for the London-based military analysis group IHS Janes, said. “Every major offensive in northern Syria this year has been announced, led and coordinated by Islamists.”

On numerous occasions, Western politicians have emphasized that they do not want extremists running rampant across the Middle East and gaining access to foreign arms supplies as they did in Libya and other recent conflicts. However, this is what is happening in Syria, Colin Cavell, a political science academic at Bluefield State College in West Virginia, told RT.

“Right now most of the American people are very unclear about exactly what is going on. Our media kind of keeps it down low on one end, and on the other end it says we are supporting moderate democratic opposition, which is hilarious to anybody who is following this. We are supporting Al-Qaeda-linked Jihadists, who are massacring people,” he stated.

Despite calls by the West to arm Syrian rebels in their fight against Assad’s government, there is still no accurate way of distinguishing non-radicalized opposition forces from Islamist militants determined to create their own sovereign state in the Middle East.

http://rt.com/news/syria-kurds-massacre-lavrov-132/

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:42 pm
by Ariel
Recent news of a chemical weapons attack in Syria smacks of desperation. The question comes down to who is most desperate right now, the Assad regime or the Muslim Brotherhood rebels? Consider that since June, Assad’s forces have been winning. According to a CBS News report from last month, victories for the rebels had become “increasingly rare” and that the Muslim Brotherhood-backed opposition fighters were sustaining “some of their heaviest losses” near Damascus.

In this video, two Syrian (Muslim Brotherhood/al-Qaeda linked) rebels can be heard coordinating a Sarin gas attack on a nearby building. As smoke billows a short distance from the building, a rebel on the ground can be heard directing someone – presumably at launch site to change his direction.


Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:51 pm
by Fernando
While I'm against both Assad and the Brotherhood, I can't see why Assad would be doing this. The UK government was supposed to be releasing "intelligence" that showed that he was responsible but I haven't seen any sign of it. Not that it need be any more reliable than Bliar's made-up stuff. Meanwhile, it looks as though the UK and USA governments both made their minds up before the weapons inspectors even got a look, never mind did their analyses. Round to al Qaeda?

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:28 pm
by Centaur
These countries are lost cases as there is no real alternative, but would prefer Assad as he is the lesser evil.

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:40 am
by Ariel
Syria: Christian Girl Raped, Tortured and Killed by Saudi Jihadists
Posted by Cheradenine Zakalwe

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The largest Christian group in Syria published these photos on its Facebook page. It says they show a Christian girl who was raped, tortured and murdered by Saudi jihadists and others who had come to Syria to help install an Islamic emirate there.

The people who did this are the ones Hussein Obama, Hollande and Cameron are now about to help.

http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.ca/20 ... d-and.html

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:15 am
by enceladus
Absolutely horrendous.

I've been thinking abiut the Syria situation, and I have thought of a surprising possibility.
It is *possible* that all of this may just end up giving us a better world than what we have now. Allow me to explain......

My scenario is as follows -

The US attacks Syria with Tomahawk missiles.
Syria then attacks Israel (as they have threatened to), and so does Syria's ally Iran.
The attacks are largely ineffective, with almost all missiles being intercepted by Iron Dome and its longer-range sister system David's Sling, and their aircraft (if they use them) are shot out of the sky by the far-superior Israeli air force.

Israel then hammers Syria and Iran - Syria is completely destroyed, Iran massively damaged. Iran's nuclear sites are guaranteed to be targetted, as is its power infrastructure.
Result? Two of the most evil regimes in the world are destroyed.

Comments? Is my analysis pretty much "spot-on"?
- enceladus

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:55 am
by pr126

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:46 pm
by Centaur
Great then the demonocracy of the Islamists to follow funded by the west and Saudis.

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:00 am
by enceladus
I'm very glad to see that in the UK, Cameron has just lost a vote on taking action against Syria.

Although the vote is (apparently) non-binding, the article said that his hands are effectively tied. I very much hope that that is the case.

I'm now convinced that by far the best thing to do is for the West to stay completely out of it. Let the Syrian conflict burn itself out (as it eventually will do).
-enceladus

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:08 pm
by Idesigner
Looks like Obama is quite hesitant about bombing Syria. There is good reason. 75% Americans oppose any involvement in Syria.Its now one week since he started about taking some action.If there was Romney in WH, he would have deployed US army there.

Don't think Brits want to crush Saudi backed Islamic revolution in Syria. They remember how Bush got them involved in Iraq by lying about WMD.

However those Repo-Tea Party White warriors want US to go there and fight war. Who cares how much it will cost? Watch that Maccain and others on CNN.

Our own FFI warriors want to overlook sins of Repos and always talk about Obama's involvement.Actually non involvement.

In my opinion no foreign country should ever involve in internal conflict of any Muslim country. If one supports Muslim dictator , he will become more fanatic and will oppress minorities to show his people that he is a true Muslim . Remember Hosni Mubarak, Remember Bangladesh liberation!! If one supports Democracy in Muslim country ( actually Shariacracy or Mullacracy) they will be lot more oppressive to non Muslims Best policy is to let them fight among themselves. We would have lot less militants to deal with and they will leave us Kaffirs alone..

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:45 pm
by Idesigner
This is from most pro arab president, a dhimmi and enemy of FFI!!

Ex President Carter:

"A punitive military response without a U.N. Security Council mandate or broad support from NATO and the Arab League would be illegal under international law and unlikely to alter the course of the war," he wrote in a statement. "It will only harden existing positions and postpone a sorely needed political process to put an end to the catastrophic violence."

Any kind of involvement by US can back fire .Even punitive bombings. Same Arab league, rebels on ground will blame U.S. for killing innocent people.. Arab League though supportive now we will change side. They are unreliable, double dealing allies.

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:51 pm
by enceladus
Idesigner wrote:(snip)
Any kind of involvement by US can back fire.
(snip)


Agreed. It's the old saying - "fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
- enceladus

Re: Syria Conflict

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:28 pm
by piscohot
Syria: Christian Girl Raped, Tortured and Killed by Saudi Jihadists


islamic scums!!

this is a good indication of what is in store for those religious minorities if the jihadists were to win this war.

If Obama wants to help the rebels win this war, he better have a solution for whats going to happen to the religious minorities.