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Muslim conservatives defend practice of child brides in Pakistan as 'tenets of Islam'

In this Tuesday, Dec. 20, 2016 photo, Saima, who married an older man in her early teens, fixes her scarf during an interview in Jampur, Pakistan.(AP Photo/K.M. Chaudhry)

By Naila Inayat - Special to The Washington Times - - Thursday, August 29, 2019
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In this Tuesday, Dec. 20, 2016 photo, Saima, who married an older man in her early teens, fixes her scarf during an interview in Jampur, Pakistan.(AP Photo/K.M. Chaudhry)
LAHORE, Pakistan — Hameeda, 15, was married to Saqib, 30, in a small ceremony in a small village in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa region of northern Pakistan.

Hameeda, who had only recently stopped playing house with her dolls, is now running a household of her own and is on her way to becoming a mother.

“My husband works as a driver in United Arab Emirates while I stay in the village with my in-laws. He visits during Eid holidays only,” she said, referring to annual Muslim holidays that follow the fasting month of Ramadan.

“One day I will also visit him by taking an airplane,” she said as her face lit up.

Hameeda is one of more than 1 million child brides in Pakistan despite laws meant to make it illegal for girls to marry before age 16. A bill in Parliament would raise the minimum age to 18, but it faces opposition by religious conservatives. This time, however, child advocates say something has to be done.

“Child marriage is one of the worst human rights violations,” said Samar Minallah Khan, an independent anthropologist and child rights advocate based in Islamabad. “It puts an end to a child’s right to freedom, education and to play. It takes away their childhood. They cannot be children anymore.”

With an estimated 1,909,000 children currently married, Pakistan has the sixth-highest rate of child marriage in the world, according to UNICEF.

The problems are not just cultural. The U.N. World Health Organization notes that the leading causes of death for females ages 15 to 19 are linked to pregnancy and childbirth. Babies born to girls younger than 18 are at higher risks of death and poor development, the WHO report said.

About 650 million girls and women alive today were married before age 18 — roughly 17% of the world’s female population, according to UNICEF.

In Pakistan, 21% of girls are married off before their 18th birthday, including 3% before age 15.

Most child brides marry men three to four times older.

“Parents want to get rid of their young girls as soon as they reach puberty. The mindset is that they are considered to be a burden,” said Rubina Saigol, a child advocate in Lahore. After the marriage, “the girl is property of another home and belongs there — and therefore has to be taken care of there.”

“It is rooted in economic reasons, with this idea is the girl is only an entity, not a human being with any human or property rights,” she said. “The son, however, is considered the breadwinner.”

Last month, a 7-year-old girl was given in marriage to a 28-year-old man in a village in Punjab in central Pakistan. The police raided the ceremony and arrested the bridegroom. In June, a 60-year-old man was arrested as he was about to marry a 12-year-old girl in Sadiqabad in southern Pakistan. A 45-year-old man married a 10-year-old girl in Sindh in southern Pakistan in May. He was arrested.

Stalemate

Pakistani law sets the minimum marriage age at 16 for girls and 18 for boys. Activists say the age must be raised and the law better enforced. Pakistan is also a signatory to international agreements such as the Convention on the Rights of the Child that require enforcement of laws to prevent child marriage.

In May, the ruling party Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party introduced a bill in the legislature to amend the Child Marriage Restraint Act of 1929 to set the marriageable age for girls at 18. It would impose a fine and possible imprisonment for the groom and those involved in facilitating the marriage, including parents, marriage brokers and the religious authorities who marry the couple.

Pakistan’s National Assembly Standing Committee on Law and Justice last week rejected such legislation. Opponents said it violated religious tenets.

“I will never support any legislation that is against the tenets of Islam,” said Ali Muhammad Khan, minister of state for parliamentary affairs. “Pakistan is an Islamic country, and no such law can be passed here even if it costs me my ministry or my seat [in Parliament].”

Qibla Ayaz, chairman of Pakistan’s Council of Islamic Ideology, said, “In 1961, the minimum age for marriage was set to 16, which was un-Islamic. It will be going again against the Shariah [Islamic law] if the age of marriage is changed to 18.”

As it has with all other attempts to amend the marriageable age for girls, the council warned that any legislation to ban child marriage would lead to “complications.” It asked instead for an awareness campaign to discourage the practice.

Officials advocating a change expressed disappointment.

“What hopes can one really attribute to a society [where] 50 elected representatives and even ministers actually voted for underage marriage? Should be enough to give sleepless [nights],” said a tweet by Fawad Chaudhry, minister of science and technology.

Activists say the issue has never been a priority and that the government of Prime Minister Imran Khan pays only lip service to it.

The Khan government “is an extremely conservative, right-wing one. They have no interest or will to do anything in issues like child marriages,” said Ms. Saigol. “They are focused on other things, and this is not a priority for them. Every other day we hear of underage girls being married or Hindu girls’ abduction [for marriage], but it doesn’t bother the government much.”

Hameeda, meanwhile, waits for her child to be born. She said her biggest problem is that she doesn’t have that much to do and being in her second trimester is limiting. She said she once hoped to be a schoolteacher for girls in her village. Marriage ended that dream.

“I would have made a difference for my community,” she said.

Now, she said, the child will at least reduce her boredom.

“Since my husband is away most of the time, I feel my child will be a good distraction for me,” she said.

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Unfortunately, it has to be admitted that 15 isn't especially early. In the UK they're talking of raising it from 16, when it is allowed subject to parental permission, to 18 in order to reduce Muslim child marriage. The present situation has led, in the past, to 16 year old couples running to Gretna Green - the first point in Scotland - where the limit has always been sixteen without parental permission.
There have also been scandalous child marriages in the USA in certain states - I don't know whether that's the case now.
Of course, none of this will affect Sharia marriages in the ghettos...
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Islamophobia? “Under Islam I was raped, I was put in prison, I was lashed, I was beaten, I was sold into marriage…”Child bride Aynaz Anni Cyrus Speaks Out
Aynaz Anni Cyrus is a name that has been blacked out by all media. She was a child bride that was born and raised in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now she is on an inspiring mission to tell women the horrors of radical Islam.

As a child bride in her home country of Iran, she was abused and imprisoned as a teen, and subsequently escaped to America. Miss Cyrus is now a firm advocate for women and girls, suffering under Sharia. Her mission is to bring hope and healing to women and girls who have been unfortunate enough to be exposed to the plague of Islamic ideology. She experienced first hand, the horrors of living under Islamic theocracy in Iran.

Her story has been blocked out by all media.
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Mohammad did not come to stop people from doing horrible things, he came to show people how to do horrible things while pleasing Allah. if you think a child bride is the ultimate degradation, watch this.


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radical Islam.

As distinct from what?
"Prophet Muhammad...bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves" SOURCE: BBC website
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farishta wrote:Mohammad did not come to stop people from doing horrible things, he came to show people how to do horrible things while pleasing Allah. if you think a child bride is the ultimate degradation, watch this.

Yep. And they have friends in mainstream media willing to take part in censorship.
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Ansar al-Zindiqi wrote:Muslim conservatives defend practice of child brides in Pakistan as 'tenets of Islam'
Let's have open borders with Pakistan!
"Prophet Muhammad...bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves" SOURCE: BBC website
"Muhammad is considered to be a perfect model" SOURCE: BBC website

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I am simply am dumbfounded!!!!




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The question of child marriage would not arise if it was not for the prophet of Islam "marrying "a child of six, and having sex with her at age nine.

Mohammed's example is for all time, not just for the time in which he lived, therefore it is Islamically acceptable for men of 54 as well as men who have paedophilic tendencies, to "marry " children, and have sex with them from age nine,

However, men are designed to be the fathers of children, not their lovers.

A man cannot relate to a child as a wife, they have nothing in common, precisely because of the vast age difference.

And in any case, what sort of man is sexually aroused by a child?

A child of nine cannot make a good wife for a man, they are psychologically immature, which will frustrate the man enough to lead him astray. Whatever is said about child marriage, it is only in Islam where it has "divine" approval, because of the actions of its prophet.

But child marriage is detrimental not only to children, but to men and society alike, which is why it is not acceptable in many countries today, except Islamic ones.

Those who want to argue it was the cultural practice at the time Mohammed lived to “marry” children, have the Islamic god Allah to deal with, who Islamically legitimizes sex with females who “have not yet menstruated because of their young age.”

Note.
Although 65.4 maybe about divorce a female has to get married first, before she can get a divorce.

Quran 65.4
Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

Quran 65.4
Al-Jalalayn
And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months,

and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age,
their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

Ibn Kathir
The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. see 2:228

The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: "O Messenger of Allah!

What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?" (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months.

Another man asked: "what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?" (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.


BOOK OF WEDLOCK BUKHARI CHAPTER 39 NUMBER 5133
39)
Chapter: Giving one's young children in marriage
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، وَأُدْخِلَتْ عَلَيْهِ وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعٍ، وَمَكَثَتْ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعًا‏.‏
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
In-book reference : Book 67, Hadith 69
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 6

Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).
حَدَّثَنَا مُعَلَّى بْنُ أَسَدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا وُهَيْبٌ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ‏.‏ قَالَ هِشَامٌ وَأُنْبِئْتُ أَنَّهَا كَانَتْ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعَ سِنِينَ‏.‏
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
In-book reference : Book 67, Hadith 70
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 65
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