The Laws Within the Koran

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The Laws Within the Koran

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The Laws Within the Koran
We will try to answer these fundamental questions:

1) What is the Koranic DEEN, usually (but quite imperfectly) translated 'religion'?
2) What is the Koranic 'Islam'? What does it mean within the Koranic context? Is it written that often?
3) Who are the Koranic 'Muslims'? Are they called to follow hadiths or the previous scriptures?
4) What is the Koranic 'Shariah'? For it is mentioned 4 times...

The Deen mentioned in the Koran resembles to the Vedic concept of Rta (Rita) and Dharma, and the old Egyptian concept of Ma'at!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maat, Ma'at, Māt or Mayet, thought to have been pronounced [muʔ.ʕat], was the Ancient Egyptian concept of truth, balance, order, law, morality, and justice. Maat was also personified as a goddess regulating the stars, seasons, and the actions of both mortals and the deities, who set the order of the universe from chaos at the moment of creation....

The significance of Maat developed to the point that it embraced all aspects of existence, including the basic equilibrium of the universe, the relationship between constituent parts, the cycle of the seasons, heavenly movements, religious observations and fair dealings, honesty and truthfulness in social interactions. The Ancient Egyptians had a deep conviction of an underlying holiness and unity within the universe. Cosmic harmony was achieved by correct public and ritual life. Any disturbance in cosmic harmony could have consequences for the individual as well as the state.
The Vedic Rta (Rita)
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In the Vedic religion, Ṛta (Sanskrit ऋतं ṛtaṃ "that which is properly joined; order, rule; truth") is the principle of natural order which regulates and coordinates the operation of the universe and everything within it. In the hymns of the Vedas, Ṛta is described as that which is ultimately responsible for the proper functioning of the natural, moral and sacrificial orders....

Ṛta and Dharma
Already in the earliest Vedic texts, Ṛta as an ethical principle is linked with the notion of cosmic retribution. A central concept of the Ṛgveda is that created beings fulfil their true natures when they follow the path set for them by the ordinances of Ṛta, and failing to follow those ordinances was thought to be responsible for the appearance of various forms of calamity and suffering. Committing one's actions to the governance of Ṛta, referred to as its "Dharma", was therefore understood as imperative in ensuring one's own well-being.

In this vein, the individual who follows the ordinances of nature can be described as one who acts according to the "Dharma of Ṛta". Dharma, then, was originally conceived of as a "finite or particularized manifestation of Ṛta inasmuch as it represents that aspect of the universal Order which specifically concerns the mundane natural, religious, social and moral spheres as expressed in ritualistic regulations, public laws, moral principles and laws of nature".
So the Koranic Din means the inside/out Cosmic Order, as performed by the stars and the trees.... emphasized in surah 57.1-3: All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Allah; and He is the Mighty, the Wise. ---His is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth; He quickeneth and He giveth death; and He is Able to do all things. ---He is the First and the Last, and the Outward and the Inward; and He is Knower of all things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deen_%28Arabic_term%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How the term Dīn came to be used in Islamic Arabia is uncertain, but its use in modern Persian may derive etymologically from the Zoroastrian concept, Daena, which represents "insight" and "revelation", and from this "conscience" and "religion". Here, Daena is the Eternal Law, which was revealed to humanity through the Mathra-Spenta ("Holy Words"). Alternatively, the Hebrew term "דין", transliterated as "dīn", means either "law" or "judgement" (so written in Q.1.4).... The term is often translated in parts of the Qur'an as "religion". However, in the Qur'an itself, the act of submission to God is always referred to as Dמn, rather than as Muzdhab (Urdu Mazhab), which is the Arabic word for "religion."
The Mazhad or school of laws instituted man-made regulations on behalf of God, hijacking and bypassing the Koranic injunctions not to do so.

So, again, we must turn to the Hindu concepts of Dharma and Rta to understand its far reaching implications.
How come this got into Islam is a mystery to me but even Allah has all the characteristic of the Vedic Varuna!

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In Varuna we see the earliest signs of an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent God, the precursor of the Upamishadic Brahman. Varuna is the ruler of the worlds, the ordainer and enforcer of law and upholder of the world order....

Varuna is the knower of all and controller of all. He is supreme God capable of controlling and dispensing justice.... If two people talking together, beware that Varuna is there watching every thing that is going on.... Varuna is the protector, ''the Holy One, helper of all mankind, the law maker whose holy laws remain unweakened.'' Together with Mitra, he controls the world order, Rta and when people transgress the moral order and commit sin, he knows and punishes them. But if they repent and seek forgiveness, he forgives them too.
How Varuna came to be portrayed as Allah totally escapes me for the time being... But the link is there for us to see!
Even the relation between Allah and ar-Rahman (the Beneficent) is but a duplicate of the Varuna/Mitra co-existence!

2. Islam (it must be connected to the Islamic SLM, and to the Samaritan Aslama).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-L-M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The word إسلام Islām is a verbal noun derived from s-l-m, meaning "submission" (i.e. entrusting one's wholeness to another), which may be interpreted as humility. "One who submits" is signified by the participle مسلم, Muslim (fem. مسلمة, muslimah).

The word is given a number of meanings in the Qur'an. In some verses (ayat), the quality of Islam as an internal conviction is stressed: "Whomsoever God desires to guide, He expands his breast to Islam." Other verses connect islām and dīn (usually translated as "religion"): "Today, I have perfected your religion (dīn) for you; I have completed My blessing upon you; I have approved Islam for your religion." Still others describe Islam as an action of returning to God—more than just a verbal affirmation of faith.
So the translation of Din by 'religion' is shrinking its meaning. It doesn't truly means 'to surrender' which is a religionist's fallacy. It is best translated by ''Being at Peace with God's Universe'' ! Whatever and whomever conform to this being ''at Peace with God'' with humility (like Noah and Abraham) is thus in the straight path, even without upholding the Koran. One observes God's order naturally when he humbles himself and don't part away from arrogance.

As a verb, it should be understood as 'to aslama' so to surrender, but this is only partially correct, half true. If not a verb but a noun, then Al-Islam must be related to its Semitic root of SLM: Salam, Shlama (Syriac), Hebrew Shalom, Arabic Salema, Ethiopian Selam: peace be with you. Thus, the verb aslama cannot solely means to surrender. It carries the idea of surrendering in order to make peace, to come at peace with. Its origin is most obviously from the Samaritan book 'Memar Marqah': to be at peace with God, ie. to give up sectarian arrogance and all kinds of earthly vanities.

This 'religion' is not to abide to any earthy code of laws as portrayed in the hadiths' fallacy. That's the meaning behind the word Mazhab (school of laws to be obeyed) which are indeed religions, contrary to the Koranic injunctions (25.30-31): Allah suffices for a Guide and Helper! That's the Din of Abraham, the straight path and we shall see that this Din includes the Shariah to be followed. And Abraham didn't have a Koran to follow, yet was exemplary!

3) Who's a Koranic Muslim? Well, the stars, the trees and also Abraham who didn't have a Koran! Moses (46.12) and Jesus' disciples were Muslims (5.111), just like everything in the Cosmos. 55.1-9: ''The Beneficent Hath made known the Qur'an. He hath created man. He hath taught him utterance. The sun and the moon are made punctual. The stars and the trees adore. And the sky He hath uplifted; and He hath set the measure, That ye exceed not the measure, But observe the measure strictly, nor fall short thereof.''
http://www.answering-islam.org/Mna/muslim.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Arabic muslimun is the stem IV participle of the triliteral S-L-M "to be whole, intact". A literal translation would be "one who wants or seeks wholeness", where "wholeness" translates islāmun. In a religious sense, Al-Islām translates to "faith, piety", and Muslim to "one who has (religious) faith or piety". According to the Quran, Abraham was ancestor of the Muslims by his covenant with God.
22.78: And strive for Allah with the endeavour which is His right. He hath chosen you and hath not laid upon you in religion any hardship; the faith of your father Abraham (is yours). He hath named you Muslims of old time and in this (Scripture), that the messenger may be a witness against you, and that ye may be witnesses against mankind. So establish worship, pay the poor-due, and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protecting friend....

http://www.mohammedislam.info/muslim.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the verses in the Qur'an makes a distinction between a mu'min, a believer, and a Muslim:

The Arabs of the desert say, "We believe." (tu/minu) Say thou: Ye believe not; but rather say, "We profess Islam;" (aslamna) for the faith (al-imanu) hath not yet found its way into your hearts. But if ye obey [Allah] and His Apostle, he will not allow you to lose any of your actions: for [Allah] is Indulgent, Merciful ('The Koran 49:14, Rodwell).

According to the academician Carl Ernst, contemporary usage of the terms "Islam" and "Muslim" for the faith and its adherents is a modern innovation. As shown in the Quranic passage cited above, early Muslims distinguished between the Muslim, who has "submitted" and does the bare minimum required to be considered a part of the community, and the mu'min, the believer, who has given himself or herself to the faith heart and soul.

Ernst writes: "The Arabic term Islam itself was of relatively minor importance in classical theologies based on the Qur'an. If one looks at the works of theologians such as the famous al-Ghazali (d. 1111), the key term of religious identity is not Islam but iman (faith), and the one who possesses it is the mu'min (believer). Faith is one of the major topics of the Qur'an; it is mentioned hundreds of times in the sacred text. In comparison, Islam is a less common term of secondary importance; it only occurs eight times in the Qur'an. Since, however, the term Islam had a derivative meaning relating to the community of those who have submitted to Allah, it has taken on a new political significance, especially in recent history."
In the Koranic language one who attacks Islam is bound to lose, a simpleton kafir, for it is like Don Quixote charging the windmills !


To be continued...
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Re: The Laws within the koran

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The Laws Within the Koran, part 2: The Koranic Shariah

As per the Koran, Muslims are first of all to follow 'Islam' which means 'Being at Peace with God's Orderly Universe'.
That's the sole basic request to be a Muslim: Abraham is portrayed as exemplary even though without any scripture.

In a nearby thread: ''Imam Abraham and the son of the Promise...'' we've seen how he, Isaac and Jacob are enshrined as Imams:

2.124:
And (remember) when his Lord tried Abraham with (His) commands, and he fulfilled them, He said: Lo! I have appointed thee a *leader
for mankind* ('Imāmāan). (Abraham) said: And of my offspring (will there be leaders)? He said: My covenant includeth not wrong-doers.


Here, *leader for mankind* is a wrong religionist's translation. Truly, Abraham is made an IMAM (Arabic 'Imāmāan) for all of mankind.
Same with 21.73 where both Isaac and Jacob are appointed as imams! There are no other imams as per the Koran than those three,
so ALL the titles of Imam given to Shafi'i, Hanbal, Bukhari (or even Muhammad, etc) are plainly substituting to the Koranic injunctions!

21.72-73: And We bestowed upon him Isaac, and Jacob as a grandson. Each of them We made righteous. And We made them chiefs who
guide (immatan) by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds and the right establishment of worship and the giving
of alms, and they were worshippers of Us (alone).


So Muhammad was to follow his example...
16.123: '''We inspired thee (Muhammad, saying): Follow the religion of Abraham, as one by nature upright....''
In the Arabic text for 'the religion of Abraham, by nature upright' we do read: Millata 'Ibrāhīma Ĥanīfāan.

Thus millata must be joined to the Din AND also to Hanifaan (Hanif).
We have to understand this to get to the corrupted nowadays Islam !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.abcarticledirectory.com/Article/Hanif/165495" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.wakeup.org/anadolu/02/3/din_quran.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Concepts such as DIN (RELIGION) have been corrupted by their contemporary usage, and moreover, this corruption has become the essence of them. By comparing the contemporary uses with the completeness and consistency of their use in the Qur'an, we can expose the illusion that has been invented to perpetuate the fraud. See how "DIN" is hooked up to "MILLET":

004.125: who is better in DIN than one who surrendered one's purpose to Allah while doing good and follows the MILLET of Abraham, the upright, Allah chose Abraham for friend. (MILLET, Abraham, hanif=upright, halilen=friend)

002.120:and the jews will not be pleased with you, nor the christians, till you follow their MILLET. Say: guidance of Allah is guidance. And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which had come unto you, then would you have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.

022.078: He had chosen you and had not laid upon you in DIN any hardship; the MILLET of your father Abraham. He had named you muslims of old time and in this (scripture)... (dini-min-haracin=din-with-no-hardship, millet, Abraham, muslimin)

006.162: say: as for me, my Lord had guided me unto a straight path, a right DIN, the MILLET of Abraham, the upright, who was no idolater....
(hedani=guided, sratin-mustakim=straight-path, dinen-kiyemen=right- din, hanif=upright, mushrikin=idolater).

I think there are enough examples here in the Qur'an which give you a solid overview of how you can use this word "DIN" without ending up in the maze of metaphysicians' "DIN=RELIGION"?! Keep this as a record so that we know where we are when you use this word "DIN" and someone else uses it.
So, from within the laws and injunctions cited in the Koran, there is STILL a lot of cleaning-up to do: Muhammadans aren't Muslims!

LAW #1: The Natural Laws.
1) The Cosmic inside/out order as created by God. To follow such is enough to be a Koranic Muslim as with the Koranic meaning of Islam: Being at Peace with God, ie. to give up (surrender) your ego (arrogance) and earthly vanities, including politics, sectarian man-made beliefs enhancing all forms of idolatry. So the Koran condemns the hadiths like the Mishna in Judaism (4.46; 5.13), or the Augustinian fallacies in Christianity, themselves based on the corrupted Vulgate by Jerome. One example shall suffices to illustrate this:

The word translated 'sin' (in the Latin Vulgate: culpa or vitium, ie. fault, vice) is really the Greek 'Hamarthia' which means: to miss the point, to be in error, a failure, so there's nothing wicked per se as in Latin ! On this I enjoin Christians to rely on the Greek former version of the Gospel. In times this 'failure' gave us the mystification of the Original Sin ! Augustine was such a Christian Pharisee, introducing concepts Jesus has never ever meant.

Just like we should know at least some Arabic transliteration of the Koran, as I am learning to do. So doing we can point out some wrong translations, ex. 17.46 where the Arabic text says ''when thou makest mention of thy Lord in the Qur'an alone they turn their backs in aversion'' and NOT as deceitfully translated 'when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an...''


LAW #2: The Furkan & Messaniy as the Koranic Shariah.
The Furkan or Criterion of Right and Wrong and the Messaniy as the Koranic Shariah. The Islamic Pharisees took care to conceal them in the opening sura while it is not so at all. Was the Criterion possibly the opening sura when the Koran states otherwise? Let us see: And when We gave unto Moses the Scripture and the criterion (of right and wrong), that ye might be led aright (2.53). Of course Moses wasn't given the al-Fatihah !

The Criterion (Furkan -2.53, 185; 21.48; 37.117, 25.1; 3.3; 8.29) and Messaniy (15.87 & 39.23) Those 'seven often repeated verses'
are given in 77.22-36; 2.83-84; 6.150-152. So the battle of Badr was referred to as ''the day of Furkan'', ie. of divine salvation.

Most evidently, Allah sent the Furkan/Messany AND the Arabic Koran !
It is my conclusion: they refer to... those 7 Noachide commandments.
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And that they are referred to as the Koranic Shariah as mentioned in 42.13:

42:13 He hath ordained (Shara'a) for you that religion (Lakum Mina Ad-Dīni) which He commended unto Noah,
and that which We inspire in thee (Muhammad), and that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus,
saying: Establish the religion, and be not divided therein. Dreadful for the idolaters is that unto which thou callest them....


What could possibly be commanded to Noah that we know of as the seven oft-repeated, but the Seven Noachide Laws?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.theholybook.org/content/view/4285/94/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
# The verse uses the word, will, for the Laws ordained (Shara'a) for Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, upon them be all be peace, but it uses the verb, reveal, for the Last Messenger (**), upon him be peace. Will implies strong advice and giving special importance to certain things. So concerning the way of life willed to Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, upon them all be peace, some matters had special importance according to the time and conditions particular to each. However, the use of reveal for the way of life enjoined on the Last Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, implies that all aspects of it – including those which exist in the Qur'ān and those established by the Sunnah of the Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings – were revealed by God and are of universal importance.

# The verse first mentions Prophet Noah, upon him be peace, and continues to talk about the Last Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, and then the other great Messengers. This is because Prophet Noah, upon him be peace, is the first Messenger to whom a comprehensive Law to govern life was willed, and the Last Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, is the greatest of all; and the way of life revealed to him is universal and inclusive of all the previous ones. We see a similar order in 33:7 (**): And (remember) when We took from the Prophets their covenant, and from you (O Muhammad); and from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary, We took from them a solemn covenant. This verse first mentions all the Prophets, particularly mentioning the five greatest among them, beginning with the last one, due to his being the greatest among them and also because God's Religion gained universality with him.

# Preserving and obeying the Law is indispensable for establishing the Religion and preserving it from distortions, changes, and corruptions. The Law has the same meaning for the Religion as the skin has for the human body. The main reason why the Religion lost its originality and purity after the Prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, upon them all be peace, is that people either ignored or neglected the Law, or changed it, or disobeyed it. Negligence of, or disobedience to, the Law is also one of the basic reasons for the internal divisions among the communities of the Messengers after them, and for the deviations witnessed concerning the essentials of faith.
(**) Note 1: 33.40 talks about the seal of prophets, not the seal of messengers...
(**) Note 2: In 33.7 the name of Muhammad is unfound in the Arabic text, yet added in brackets


Other derivatives are found in 5.48 (Shir'atan) and 42.21 (Shara'u) and 45.18 (Sharī'atin):

5.48: And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it,
and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away
from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law (Shir'atan) and a traced-out way...


42.21: Or have they partners (of Allah) who have made lawful (Shara'ū) for them in religion that which Allah allowed not?....

45.18: And now have We set thee (O Muhammad) on a clear road of (Our) commandment (Sharī'atin);
so follow it, and follow not the whims of those who know not.


The Deen and Sharia of Islam (abiding for all Muslims) are solely that of Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
NOT the one invented later around Muhammad! Their own prophet was called to follow them -exclusively-!
Any other man-made 'Shariah' not only isn't religiously binding but must be hold as heretical by the Koran.

Q,15.87-91:
''We have given thee seven of the oft-repeated (i.e. Noachide 7 Laws) and the great Qur'an. Strain not thine eyes toward that which We
cause some wedded pairs among them to enjoin, and be not grieved on their account, and lower thy wing (in tenderness) for the believers.
And say: Lo! I, even I, am a plain warner, Such as We send down for those who make division, Those who break the Qur'an into parts.


LAW #3: The Former Korans
3) The Koran plainly recognizes the Torah for Jews, the Psalms and the Gospel, which abrogates the former. I hold this Gospel to be Tatian's Diatessaron, which was still in much use in the Syriac world by the time of Muhammad. Note that the Book of Revelation came back-in by the 6th century...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatessaron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Persian harmony differs greatly in sequence, but translates a Syriac text that is rather closer to that in Ephrem's commentary. The Diatessaron is thought to have been available to Muhammad, and may have led to the assumption in the Koran that the Christian Gospel is one text.... the Syrian Church also rejected John's Book of Revelation and the Pastoral Epistles. They were included again only in the middle of the sixth century.

LAW #4: The Arabic Koran
4) The Arabic Koran (as law) abrogates all other revelations, only if and when contradicting. It adds to them and complete them all.
Again, the Islamic Pharisees (as Jesus' hypocrites) concealed that fact by stating that the Arabic Koran abrogated itself, a silly concept.

On the abrogations (another -legal- concept based on the Islamic Pharisees duplicity).

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In 2.106 (Maa Nansakh min 'aayatin) the wording aayatin was erroneously translated 'verse' while meaning -revelation- as a whole.
Yusuf Ali explains, in his commentaries, the term "aayatin": ''What is the meaning here? If we take it in a general sense, it means
that God's Message from age to age is always the same, but that its form may differ according to the needs and exigencies of the
time. That form was different as given to Moses and then to Jesus and then to Muhammad.
''

This rightful understanding is emphasized in 3.23 ('A portion of the Book') where the Koran is stated as a continuation of the former
revelations, with abrogated differences much like Jesus did about the Torah in Matthew 5. The 'Book of Allah' thus includes both the
Torah and the Gospel, of which the Arabic Koran is but a portion, not to be broke apart (15.90-91). This 'Book of Allah' in three parts
is called 'Umm-ul-Kitab' (the Mother Book) in 3.39: The original foundation of all revelations is thrice, yet from the same source..

In Yusuf Ali's commentaries (on 3.23): ''I conceive that Allah's revelation as a whole throughout the ages is "The Book". The Law of Moses,
the Gospel of Jesus were portions of the Book. The Qur'an completes the revelation and is par excellence the Book of Allah.
''

From the above verses we can see that if Allah differed from some passages (i.e. abrogated) in the former korans (Torah and Gospel)...
they are to be reckoned with and not dismiss. The Islamic interpretation that the abrogations mentioned are referring to their Koran
is thus plainly WRONG: all those verses are referring to the differences between the three korans, them all acknowledged by Allah,
to give preponderance to the later Arabic one, if -and only if- it's found conflicting with any other al-Kitab (Scripture).

AGAIN, Muslims have been duped by their own Pharisees to turn them into Muhammadans!
http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/ ... 48%29.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://freequranonline.org/quranic-abrogation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mostmerciful.com/abrogation- ... tution.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

5:13 And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts. They change words
from their context and forget a part of that whereof they were admonished. Thou wilt not cease to discover treachery from
all save a few of them. But bear with them and pardon them. Lo! Allah loveth the kindly.


5:14 And with those who say: "Lo! we are Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished.
Therefor We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.


The Islamic Pharisees, through worshiping the sunna of Muhammad (their Islamic Messiah) has done the same... so the curse is on-going.
Worse still, if Ishmael is the messenger sent to the Arabs by Allah... then... Muhammad is to be totally dismissed as their own messenger!
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/warners.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Addenda: I've also discussed the matter elsewhere

Islam Vs Democracy
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The Quran's Deceptive Proper Names
Muslim:
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Muslim + Islam, Deen and Shariah
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Part Two
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Part Three
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Allah as Law: The Law!
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Re: The Laws Within the Koran

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Addenda: Deen vs Mazhab (or Madh'hab).

Mazhab is nowhere found in the Koran, it's a sectarian adhesion quite opposite to the Koranic Deen (or Din).
As we've seen above this Deen is closely related to the seven Noachide laws and then the Millata of Abraham

http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/articles/the_Ulema.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
DIN—this word has been used in various contexts, among them being ascendancy, sovereignty, management, conduct of affairs, ruling power, mastership, ownership, exercise of power, code of law, constitution, law of requital, an order. The Quran has described Islam as Ad-Din, which is generally translated as religion. However, in the light of the above meanings, it should be clear that this is not only incorrect, but distorts and negates the very meaning of din. Islam is not a religion (madhab), and it has never been described as one in the Quran. Islam is a way of life, a system, a code of law. In the external universe Islam signifies the Divine Order that governs life and the movement of the entire universe. The whole purpose of the Quran is to establish a universal order based on the Divinely ordained values of life. This is ad-din.

MADHAB—literally means way or course. This word does not appear in the Quran and in Islamic fiqh it stands for “school of thought”. It is usually translated as religion, and since Islam is described as a religion in English, the word madhab has come into use for it in Urdu as well. This is a fundamental fallacy—it goes against the very essence of Islam, which is a din, not a madhab.
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Deen is all encompassing, contains all humanity, allows freedom of practice and love of thy neighbor even if he is a cow! Love, courage, equality, insaaf, and respect is part of Deen. As it is total coverage. Any one is welcome, anyone...

Mazhab: Narrower then the eye of the needle, totally unsharing, labels everything anti-itself, pretends to be god incarnate and has a militant violent nature. No sharing, no giving, no policy, no economic stability, nothing!

What we have in the name of Islam today is mazhab. not Deen...
It's quite obvious by now that more and more Muslims realize how duped they have been by their own Islamic Pharisees.

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Most of the people do not try to understand the difference between Deen and Mazhab and even unconsciously presume DEEN-E-ISLAM to be 'MAZHAB' although there is a difference like that of the day and night. Take it as a misfortune that the religious monopolist like Mullah (one who knows only religious dogma), Peer (spiritual guide), Gaddi Nasheen (Successor of a saint) and Mufti (Islamic Jurist) never make an endeavor to clarify the difference, since they are apprehensive of a slump in their shop-keeping.

Mazhab, apart from being a non-Islamic word, proves to be an obstruction in the unification of Ummah too. Present Mazaahib are a picture like proof of the same. Don't forget that the entire Ummah was one and its Deen too was one, only when there existed no Mazaahib. But the Ummah got disintegrated since the reverents got dead drunk of the excessive exaggeration and developed a relish for the wine of Taqleed (an uncritical and unqualified acceptance and emulation of traditional orthodoxy or an authoritarian code of a particular teacher of a Mazhab). Inspite of innumerable efforts now it isn't coming under control. Therefore, there is no alternative except renouncing the Mazaahib and bidding a farewell to sects. It will become practical only when the difference between. DEEN and MAZHAB is clarified but prior to this a deliberation over the meaning and interpretation of both the words should be opted for only to facilitate a better understanding of the subsequent matter.

Mazhab = method, belief or faith, manner. As per the Arabic grammar, Mazhab is an ‘Adverbial Noun’ that which shows the place or time of an action. { Tas'heel-ul-Adab, Fi lisaan-ul-Arab, Juzz Saani} Therefore, according to this the meaning of 'Mazhab' happens to be 'The place of going or the time of going.’ The following Prophetic tradition also supports the sense of the 'Place of going'. The Holy Prophet (pbuh) used to go far off when he had to go to the place of going (i.e. to answer the call of nature). { Abu Dawood, Book of Taharah} But the word 'Mazhab' is generally spoken and known as the ways and methods of the sects such as mentioned in the lexicons. There are so called Five popular 'Mazahib.' (1) Hanafi (2) Shafayee (3) Hambali (4) Maliki (5) Ahle Hadees (Shia).

It was exigently just that the believers of Islam should have accepted and introduced Deen i.e., Deen-e-Islam as the Islamic law and way of life but that was not done. On the contrary, a self invented word, Mazhab was opted for against 'Deen', the proof of which is there in neither the Holy Qur’an nor any Prophetic tradition. On the other hand, the sense in which the word has been used in the Prophetic tradition if that is to be used for indicating religion, that would be an insult to Islam. Even now the word Mazhab has become so common that Islam is being identified as 'Mazhab' instead of Deen and this all is the work of religious monopolists.

Deen is an Islaamic word and it is proved by the Holy Qur’an and Ahadees. The Deen in the sight of Allah (SWT) is only Islaam "The Deen before Allah (accepted by Allah) is Islam" (Aal-Imran 3:19) Deen has been approved of and favoured by Allah "Today, I have completed your Deen, and have completed my bliss upon you and accepted for you Islam as a Deen." (Al-Mai’da 5:3) Deen is complete "Today, I have completed your Deen..” (Al-Mai’da 5:3) Deen is Pure “Unquestionably, for Allah is the pure religion. (Az-Zumar 39:3) Mazhab Mazhab is a non-Islaamic word and it has not been used in the Holy Qur’an or Ahadees in this context.

Deen has been chosen by Allah (SWT). “Indeed Allah has chosen for you this Deen…” (Al-Baqara 2:132) Only Deen will be accepted And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (Aal-Imran 3:85) The purpose of Jihad in Deen is to establish the Deen of Allah completely. “And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.” (Al-Anfal 8:39) Mazhab Mazaahib are Self-made and are made with human-intervention. Since Mazaahib are self-made and against Islaam undoubtedly it will not be accepted. The purpose of Jihad (which cannot be called as Jihad, anyways) in Mazaahib is to continue the sect based on some Personality, Individuality, Community or Region.

A messenger or Prophet of Allah will only bring Deen with him. "It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.” (At-Tawba 9:33) Fiqh (deep understanding) in Deen is a favour “To whomever Allah Wants to favour HE grants him Fiqh in Deen (full understanding of Deen-e-Islaam).” (Sahih Buqari & Sahih Muslim) Mazhab There is no relation of Mazaahib with the Messengers or rather these sects are associated with some other Personalities.

The Present day situation is an illustration of the same. “Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah; then He will inform them about what they used to do.” (Al-‘An’am 6:159).
The Koranic 'Deen' (Din) would best be translated by Belonging (with a capital) or Appertaining.
This can't be a religion, as Mazhab (Madh'hab) rather means in the modern sense of a creed...

The Cosmic Law (Hindu Sanatana Dharma) abiding altogether the trees, the stars and the Muslims
simply can't be a code in human understanding, like in the Islamic fiqh or Mazhad. To follow such a
Belonging, one doesn't even need the Koran or the Torah, just like Ibrahim perfectly exemplifies...

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They appeared before the people as interpreters of Allah's will presenting Deen. in a distorted form, and the Deen thus got "... reduced to a set of soulless beliefs and lifeless dogmas and formal rituals divorced from reason and knowledge and the realities of life in this world. They sought to keep the common people entangled in the labyrinth of dogmas and rituals, and the exploiters, religious as well as temporal, were thus left free to maintain their stranglehold upon the defrauded masses and to fatten themselves on the labour of others. This was the metamorphosis of Deen into Mazhab or religion, as in the old."

The kind of disorderliness mentioned above, could not continue long, and in the meantime another apostle of Allah used to appear, and re-establish the Deen of the earlier prophets. These processes went on in an alternate form, and at last, the last perfect, and final code of Divine Guidance in the form of the Quran was revealed. On the basis of this Divine Book, Prophet Muhammad(S) established a State in Medina for its enforcement. Characteristic feature of this State was sovereignty of Allah and not of man, and introduction and adoption of the Divine code of life and not man-made laws. This was the real Islamic State totally based on the Quranic laws.

After the Prophet(S), the system continued for few decades. Then the leaders of the religion (Mazhab) enmeshed the Deen befooling people, violating the Divine code of life, deceiving the common people in such away that they accepted the shadow in place of substance, false interpretation in place of truth, and blind devotion in place of real knowledge. Thus people had fallen into grip of Mazhab, weaning them away from the Deen. (It is worth mentioning that the word Mazhab, though an Arabic word, has not been used anywhere in the Quran). The history of mankind is precisely the history of an incessant conflict between Deen and Mazhab throughout. Mazhab, which is a priestcraft, has no sanction in the Quran.

Another characteristic of religion (Mazhab) is that of following traditions blindly. Its representative profess that whatever was followed by their ancestors has to be followed, no matter it is a blind imitation adopted unwisely, without thinking and without reasoning. Whenever any reasonable person raised voice against them, they tried to arouse the ire of the people against him on the plea that he is desecrating and insulting their respectful and renowned ancestors. This is how the whole structure of Deen was weakened and damaged...
By definition, the inside/out Cosmic Order (Deen or Dharma) can't be too ritualistic without giving into idolatry!
This is the etymological meaning for 're-ligare' (from which derived religion): to reconnect (with the true sacred).

In my understanding, that was also the main message of Jesus... and the defining task of all true prophets.
Authority has the same etymological root as authenticity.

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