The Illusion of Reforming Islam
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/04/19/ ... ing-islam/
Let us put some resources on that subject in this thread. There are many people well educated people Muslims & non_Muslims who strongly believe that it is possible to reform Islam. We had plenty of discussions on this subject in FFI. It is good to have all in one thread. Before I joined FFI .. that was 7 years back.. I used collect books and articles on this subject And Without knowing much of History of Islam and not reading religious books such as Q'uran.. bible ..in detail. I used to think 20th and 21st century writers will be able to completely rewrite .. re-translate re-codify Q'uran, hadith, Prophet Muhammad ..etc so that Political Islam could be de-fanged.
But clearly I was wrong. After participating in different forums and reading of 100s of articles on this subject and watching/reading many people.. just to mention few soft spoken hard hitting folks like. Anwar Shaikh, Humayun Azad, Ibn Warraq, Younus Shaikh, Walid Shoebat, on one side and this present bunch a cold blooded KILLERS of Mr. Muhammad's Islam who are very out spoken against Islam such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali , Wafa Sultan, Salman Rushdie, -Taslima Nasrin , Nonie Darwish, Parvin Darabi- Maryam Namazie and off course our own Ali Sina & many friends at FFI + other anti Islamic web sites on one side and the rulers of Islamic countries and Communist governments and western apologists of Islam on other side.,
It is difficult to see how the former group who are questioning Islam and would like root it out from the face of the earth will win in 21 st century.. These people have NO POLITICAL SUPPORT and no oil money to educate Muslim and non Muslim world about Mr. Muhammad's Islam. The only weapon they have is 21st century internet. So it is hard to imagine that these Stall warts born in Islam fighting against Islam will win in next 50 years or so..
So In his article, Ali mentions some names of people and some organizations that are trying (or at least acts as if they are trying)to reform Islam. Let me put those names along with some selective statements from Ali's article here to discuss them later in this thread..
Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab, (1703–1792)
ibn Taymiyyah (1263 – 1328)
Abu Sa’d Abd al-Kareem al-Sama’n
Dr. Ingrid Mattson,
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA),
Maududi (1903 – 1979)
Sayyid Qutb, (1906-1966)
"Only truth can set us free. By sugarcoating Islam you cannot change its nature. You can purify any water. You can even purify your urine into drinking water. But can you purify gasoline enough to make it drinkable? The essence of Islam is evil. You cannot reform it enough to make it a humane faith. Can you reform Nazism? This whole notion is misguided and absurd."
CAIR does not say when it wants to Con Americans with Islamic Ruse. ." [/b][/i]
Here I would say CAIR should be redefined as Converting Americans to Islamic Rule ., That is indeed CAIR's agenda.
Please click to watch the Video.
and watch more of CAIR propaganda in America..
And.. finally, I would also argue with Ali on his Statement of
"But can you purify gasoline enough to make it drinkable?"
I would say Answer for that Question is "YES".. a Big Bold "YES"., I can convert gasoline in to water. Burn the "damn thing" in Oxygen.
But what is "Damn thing" here ?? ...