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36% of Muslims: no school. 61% of Jews: degrees

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:37 am
by Fernando
A major new Pew report on the relationship between religion and education has a lot to worry Muslims. It's quite understandable that as many Muslims live in underdeveloped countries, they will get less education than people elsewhere. But it turns out that this is not the sole explanation, since for example Muslims are also less educated than Christians in sub-Saharan Africa - and the gap is getting worse.
It's a long report: the link is to an excellent graphical summary but there are further links to a series of chapters of the report. I haven't worked through the chapters, but at first sight it looks likely that whatever the Muslims' circumstances, their religion is limiting their education. So far, btw, I haven't seen any mention of whether or not "education" in religious indoctrination centres is counted. It may be somewhere in the full report.
http://www.pewforum.org/2016/12/13/religion-and-education-around-the-world/#religions-vary-in-educational-attainment

Re: 36% of Muslims: no school. 61% of Jews: degrees

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:06 pm
by Fernando
Statisical truth is clearly in the eye of the beholder: The Independent has a rather different take on this story.
American Christians are less educated than religious minorities and atheists
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While Buddhists, Muslims and religiously unaffiliated people were also more likely to have a college degree than Christians.
https://www.indy100.com/article/united-states-christians-education-religion-judaism-islam-hinduism-statistics-demographics-7477121

Re: 36% of Muslims: no school. 61% of Jews: degrees

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:23 pm
by manfred
This second point is a half-truth... if you are into an outfit such as the Jehovah's Witnesses or even the Mormons, studies outside the group are discouraged, mostly for the same reasons as many Muslims do not get higher educations: it may lead people to realise that some of their beliefs are not compatible with history or with scientific fact.

in the so-called bible-belt this would certainly affect the levels of education in statistical significant ways. But the same some not apply to Christians as a whole.

In short wherever religion sees knowledge as a threat and is in control at the same time, you get this effect.

All Islam sees knowledge as a threat, but only some parts of Christianity does so, and the sects that have these views tend to be small except for some part of the US.

Similarly, the lowest levels of education in the Muslim world are found where Islam is at its most fundamentalist and intolerant, and where Islam is the most controlling element in society. Education in Malaysia and Indonesia is much better than in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, not because Islam much more tolerant there, (some would say it more tolerant) but because it is less in control.