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Why Muslims breed so rapidly

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:36 am
by Fernando
Why the world’s Muslim population is growing so very, very quickly
Strangley, the author does virtually nothing to provide the promised explanation: he merely demonstrates that it's happening and that it bodes ill.
However, the two (at the moment) comments go some way to putting him right. In fact I've posted this because of the comment by "All_Comments_Matter" who says this:
The stats showing the growth of Islam have to do with birthrates, not adult conversions (few adults in their right mind would ever convert to Islam except at the point of a sword). Is Islam an ethnic identity then, like Judaism? If so, how come I never meet atheist/agnostic Muslims in the same that I meet plenty of atheist/agnostic Jews.

Islam is a mutation of the idea of "faith" spliced with the DNA of an oppressive socio-political structure. You are born into it, and then you can't leave under threat of death/persecution in many places. The socio-politics that Islam promotes are an abject failure; which is why the Muslims who are able flock by the millions to Westernized countries where there is hope for a decent life.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/09/09/where-and-why-the-median-age-for-muslims-is-so-low

Re: Why Muslims breed so rapidly

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:51 am
by Fernando
OOPS! Just a few entries down today's NSS list of stories, I find this:
Catholic Church has doubled since 1970

Official church figures say the number of Catholics in the world has doubled since 1970.

It's now around 1.2 billion people.

The largest growth came from Africa, where the number of Catholics grew by 238 per cent since 1980.

The number of Catholics in Asia grew by 115 per cent over the same period, while it grew by 56 per cent in the Americas.

While the Catholic Church has struggled with sex abuse and financial scandals, it's thought the growth is partly down to popular papacies like John Paul II and Pope Francis, as well as the church's presence in a high proportion of the world's countries.

By 2050 it's thought 1.6 billion people on the planet will be Catholics.
Presumably, nobody in their right mind would convert to Catholicism either (when did you meet a Catholic atheist, as All_Comments_Matter might ask) so no doubt this is also a matter of unrestrained breeding.

So I suppose the real question is: Muslim and Catholic population growth - religiously motivated breeding or economically backward ill-educated populations? Is there a common cause? If so, which?
http://www.premierchristianity.com/News/World/Catholic-Church-has-doubled-since-1970

Re: Why Muslims breed so rapidly

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:31 am
by Ibn Rushd
Catholics here tend to have small families, no more than 2-3 kids. I don't think the 9-10 kids per Muslim woman can be compared to the Catholic slow growth.

Re: Why Muslims breed so rapidly

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:05 am
by pert
(few adults in their right mind would ever convert to Islam except at the point of a sword)
I think those westerners who do convert probably do for the thrill of being in something dangerous and controverisal, apart for brain scrambled TV personalities like Kristianne Bakker and brain scrambled boxers like Chris Eubank

Re: Why Muslims breed so rapidly

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:42 pm
by sum
Abu Dawud 11.2045 "A man came to the Prophet and said: I have found a woman of rank and beauty, but she does not give birth to children. Should I marry her? He said: No. He came again to him, but he prohibited him. He came to him third time, and he (the Prophet) said: Marry women who are loving and very prolific, for I shall outnumber the peoples by you."

Abu Dawood and al-Tirmidhi
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
"Do marry the devoted and prolific women, for I will be proud of you before other nations in the Day of Judgement."

Also Al-Tabarani extracted in his book entitled Al-Mu’jam al-Kabeer that the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) saw) said:
"Get married and have large families."

Muslimas are encouraged to start their families early. Even if they have the same number of children they will eventually outnumber those who breed later with the same number of children. Over the course of a hundred years there will be more generations of early breeders.

This is demographic jihad.

sum