skynightblaze wrote:Mahiwal wrote:Regarding wife beating, I have some scenarios in my own mind where I justify a slap although I never did it....
My question to you is- Do you really need to justify violence against your wife especially when you prefer rational thinking over religious beliefs? From your posts, I assume that you have now started to give a critical thought about religion (you deserve credit for this). If we keep thinking about excuses to justify something then human mind can find plenty and you will never reach the truth. Sugar coating is just running away from the problem instead of facing it. I agree it is easier said than done for a muslim to simply discard islam because of the upbringing, family issues and bondings. However, if someone wants to improve the first thing they need to admit is that the religion is flawed and they are in error. Without admitting one's errors, no one can improve. That's the first step towards changing yourself. I know its tough but that's the only way if you want to improve. Hence, If I were you, I would simply discard such teachings and not bother about defending them. I don't have to justify anything that some illiterate moron said 1400 years ago.
If you are still emotionally attached to islam then may be you can pick things that do not harm anyone and give you peace and reject the rest of islam. However, it would be incorrect to call yourself a muslim in that case but I guess it does not matter. You can simply say you are not a muslim but you pick good aspects (or peace giving aspects that do not harm anyone) from all sources out of which islam is one. Anyway I do not intend disrespect. These are just my thoughts.
Welcome back Mahiwal, beating your "Sohni" or for that matter any other human is definitely a no-no in my book. I am so glad that you now prefer rationality over religion.
Always remember that we humans are inherently conservative, by that I mean we oppose change. I know that you are a software developer like me, let me give you an example, many a times in my career I have been involved in implementing new software applications, and many a times I have successfully presented the user community with better and far improved solutions in doing their work, and most of the times our enhancements get rejected, simply because the user community is used to doing things their way (mainframe applications), the way they were taught to accomplish their work, even though the enhancement would greatly reduce their workload we could never convince them to change.
Having said that, I myself have not changed, I still love/cherish/respect my family despite them being religious, and that is something that will never change. so it us, we need to change our approach, we need to focus on being anti-religion and not anti-religious, criticize the sh!t out of beliefs (religion), not the believers, and you will see many more Mahiwals and iffos.