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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:30 pm
by defendingChrist
Bilalahmad wrote:
Lotus Feet wrote:18 "Of what value is an idol, since a man has carved it?
Or an image that teaches lies?
For he who makes it trusts in his own creation;
he makes idols that cannot speak.

19 Woe to him who says to wood, 'Come to life!'
Or to lifeless stone, 'Wake up!'
Can it give guidance?
It is covered with gold and silver;
there is no breath in it.

1. Islam made an idol of their prophet.
2. Islam worship around a stone.


We don't worship the stone. Ask Jews who stand infront of the wall, does that means they worship the wall of a prophet.

What then do you worship? Which God? Moon God?


PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:35 pm
by defendingChrist
Lotus Feet wrote:
Bilalahmad wrote:Lotus, it's a Jewish direction so we don't call them pagans. It unites Jews in faith in ONE direction. Just like the angels praises the Lord as whole united. Same with Muslims.

For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.Hosea 6:6

But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."Matthew 9:13

So, yes they are pagans.

Do you think that God is one direction? The only one direction that God is in UPWARDS and you can only reach him by being UPRIGHT in the heart of integrity and true conscience that's why God gave us two feet to stand on. To walk the path home to him in uprightness on a physical level. On a Spiritual level the angelic soul rises to become one with the perfect Spirit of God.
Angels teach their souls to fly in their divine training directly with the divine.

Why do you think the bible and the Essenes spoke about the the four winds from the four quarters of the heavens?

Do you know? What did the prophet of Islam teach you about the four winds ?

While you all have your heads to the ground God is saying sorry folks I am up here.


"While you all have your heads to the ground God is saying sorry folks I am up here. "

I like this comment...classic


PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:43 pm
by defendingChrist
Lotus Feet wrote:
SAM wrote:
Lotus Feet wrote:Now this one was born in Zion Sam, so stay on topic.


Now is the time for all the records to be straight with God, our LORD and heavenly Father.

His name is Abba not Allah.


Lotus, Indonesia, us, indonesian Christian protestant, use Allah (prounounced alah not olloh as muslim says)

We say in our prayer, Allah bapa means God the Father, We do know about abba but it mostly used in songs.Like abba bapa, which literally means God the Father.

Allah is the the way the muslim call their god...what's your opinion about this as a Christian? I see you are quite a scholar, evangelist? Should we use the word Allah?


PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:12 pm
by elle
"defendingChrist," Allah was the heathen Moon god of the heathen Quraishi tribe to which the parents of the Prophet Mohammed belonged.

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre- Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre- Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.