Ahmadi beliefs

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John Monash
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Paarsurrey, stop slithering like a snake and wriggling like an eel.
Your deliberate distortions remind me of the futility of a one a one-legged rabbit scurrying from hole to hole in a frozen lake in the sahara desert. Im-possible.

Once and for all, according to your Ahmediyah Islamic cult, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (kicked the bucket in 1908) did claim to be Jesus Christ. By any stretch, this is called blasphemy. Did you also read this
Responding to Paarsurrey, Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:
You have no reason to love Jesus, it's merely lip service. You say you love him simply because you are told that you must, but the Quran doesn't tell you anything good that he did. It doesn't really tell you anything about what he preached and the Quran is quite contradictory to what was preached above. Muhammad hijacked Jesus and altered him to bring him down to his level.
Did it ever occur to you Paarso, that Muhammed and Jesus were direct opposites in every detail.
Why are you too afraid to compare?

Dear Paarso, there is only one Messiah, Yesu' Al-Masih, Jesus the Messiah.

The validity of Ahmediyah's claim that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (sinner) is the promissed messiah, contains as much as enlightenment as a hooded blind man searching in a dark cellar for the shadow of a black cat that does not exist.
Get the picture? probably not

One last thought Paarso, for your own benefit, read and inwardly digest
yeezevee wrote:so dear paarsurrey
don't fool people with stupid statements in FFI., you can do that in Islamic forums.. Indeed people like you FOOL THEMSELVES AND FOOL OTHERS
Get the idea?
Cheers
JM

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John Monash wrote: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did claim to be Jesus Christ.
Hi friend/s

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- May God Allah YHWH bless his soul, and may he rest in peace; he never claimed to be reincarnation of Jesus or Krishna. Yes , in Character and truthful teachings, he was the Second Coming of Jesus as the Christians and Muslims wait; the waiting is unnecessary now as the one who was to come has come; and now no-one would come. It is absolutely useless to wait for anybody else.

As for Jesus he died a natural and peaceful death in India after escaping and surviving a cursed death on the Cross.Jesus' tomb is at Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, India, anyone may visit it or see a BBC documentary on it.

Did Jesus die on the Cross? a BBC documentary
http://www.video.google.com/videoplay?d ... 54953060&q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Jesus cannot and would not come in this world literally and physically. Jesus fate has been sealed by Muhammad- the Seal of Prophets.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks
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paarsurrey wrote:
John Monash wrote: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did claim to be Jesus Christ.
Second Coming of Jesus
Wrong emphasis, paar. Self-pwnage continues.

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crazymonkie_ wrote:
paarsurrey wrote:
John Monash wrote: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did claim to be Jesus Christ.
Second Coming of Jesus
Wrong emphasis, paar. Self-pwnage continues.
Hi crazymonkie

I don't get what you want to say. English is my second language; please explain.

Thanks
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Jesus' second coming was supposed to be a unique event. Ask yourself: Which prophet or leader among the Jews or Christians ever said they'd come back a second time?

I'd also like to point out that saying that someone is the second coming of Jesus is the same thing as saying that someone IS Jesus. They're just the Jesus that came back again... who, BTW, would therefore be put even above your precious "Seal of the Prophet" himself (Muhammad definitely never said he'd be back again, I know that much.)

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"Seal of the Prophet" himself (Muhammad definitely never said he'd be back again, I know that much
Hi friends

Jesus' mission was incomplete at the age of 32/32 years. Moreover when Jesus had to migrate to India; in his absence one of his cunning enemies by the name of Saul of Tarsus invented a new religion and named it after the Christ as "Christianity" which had nothing to do with Jesus. Jesus prophesied of his Second Coming in symbolic terms of coming of a truthful person who would break the Cross (on which this new religion was cunningly based) with brilliant arguments; in this way Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 is the Promised Messiah.

This is a Sign for the Atheists Agnostics, if they ever realize.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks
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paarsurrey wrote:
"Seal of the Prophet" himself (Muhammad definitely never said he'd be back again, I know that much
Hi friends

Jesus' mission was incomplete at the age of 32/32 years. Moreover when Jesus had to migrate to India;
Who told you he migrated to India and upon which valid information is this based on?
paarsurrey wrote: in his absence one of his cunning enemies by the name of Saul of Tarsus invented a new religion and named it after the Christ as "Christianity" which had nothing to do with Jesus. Jesus prophesied of his Second Coming in symbolic terms of coming of a truthful person who would break the Cross (on which this new religion was cunningly based) with brilliant arguments; in this way Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 is the Promised Messiah.
Where do you get this prophecy from??
paarsurrey wrote: This is a Sign for the Atheists Agnostics, if they ever realize.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
Thanks
You love Jesus because the Quran claims he accuses Christians of taking Mary as a God when Christians never took her as a God nor as part of the Trinity? How can you ignore this blatant error? God would never misunderstand Christians beliefs like that but Muhammad surely would. When are you going to open your eyes to how badly you've been lied to?
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John Monash wrote:
Did it ever occur to you Paarso, that Muhammed and Jesus were direct opposites in every detail.
Why are you too afraid to compare?
The following is the very antithesis of Muhammad. How could anybody relate Jesus to Muhammad??

Matthew 5
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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John Monash wrote:
Did it ever occur to you Paarso, that Muhammed and Jesus were direct opposites in every detail.
Why are you too afraid to compare?
Hi friend/s

It is only your misunderstanding. Jesus and Muhammad were not opposite as they both have been sent by the same Creator- God Allah YHWH.They supported one another. Jesus prophesied for Muhammad; but the Catholics Protestants do not understand:

Matthew 21:42-44

41 They say to him: He will bring those evil men to an evil end; and will let out his vineyard to other husbandmen, that shall render him the fruit in due season. 42 Jesus saith to them: Have you never read in the Scriptures: The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner? By the Lord this has been done; and it is wonderful in our eyes. 43 Therefore I say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and shall be given to a nation yielding the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone, shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it shall grind him to powder. 45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they knew that he spoke of them.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/47021.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus here referred to Muhammad, peace be upon him.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks
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Allah is my suffice, and the best deputy

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Hello brooqdes

Do you believe in the concept of indoctrination?

sum

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paarsurrey wrote:? By the Lord this has been done; and it is wonderful in our eyes. 43 Therefore I say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and shall be given to a nation yielding the fruits thereof.
Some say that the kingdom of God will be established only after Jesus arrives for a second time with a flaming sword in his hand.You seem to think otherwise in favour of muslims.Whom can be trusted?
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Ahmadi. That's the topic.
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brooqdes wrote:Allah is my suffice, and the best deputy
Ah, recognition at last: Allah is Mohammed's deputy! (a.k.a. sock puppet.)
‘Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions.’ Muhammad Ali Jinnah

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manfred wrote:Ahmadi. That's the topic.
Yes as if it was I who brought up the biblical quote and as if you all never deviate from the topic.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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HUH???

I did not write anything at all in this topic except to say it is about Ahmadis. A occasional aside is fine too, but writing anything that relates to the topic of any thread seems to be exceptionally difficult for you.
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manfred wrote:HUH???

I did not write anything at all in this topic except to say it is about Ahmadis. A occasional aside is fine too, but writing anything that relates to the topic of any thread seems to be exceptionally difficult for you.
Hardly ,I am very much on the topic.The argument I have presented demolishes the stance of paarsurrey.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Really? What stance?
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manfred wrote:Really? What stance?
The stance of parsurrey that muslims and Muhammed are just accomplishing what has been prophesized in the Bible.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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