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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the truthful Promised Messiah

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:47 pm
by paarsurrey
Hi friends

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 was a truthful Prophet Messenger of the Creator – God Allah YHWH in terms of the Bible (OT as well as NT).

Please read the following verses from Bible carefully:

1. But the prophet, who being corrupted with pride, shall speak in my name things that I did not command him to say, or in the name of strange gods, shall be slain. Deuteronomy 18:20
2. And the Lord said to me: The prophets prophesy falsely in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, nor have I spoken to them: they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination and deceit, and the seduction of their own heart. 15 Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that prophecy in my name, whom I did not send, that say: Sword and famine shall not be in this land: By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.
16 And the people to whom they prophecy, shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword, and there shall be none to bury them: they and their wives, their sons and their daughters, and I will pour out their wickedness upon them. Jeremias 14:14-20
3. For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. 37 After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. Acts Of Apostles 5:36-37

The above topic that the false Prophets do get killed is firm principle confirmed by the Bible; I have only given some verses for your perusal.

Not only that Theodas and Judas of Galilee[/color] were got killed but Paul a counterfeit Epistle of Jesus and Joseph Smith Junior also got killed.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the truthful Prophet of the Creator- God Allah YHWH; he did not get killed.

The Catholics Protestants if they believe in Bible; they should accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a truthful Prophet; no compulsion though.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Re: An Ahmadi on Jesus [threads merged]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:11 pm
by manfred
But the prophet, who being corrupted with pride, shall speak in my name things that I did not command him to say, or in the name of strange gods, shall be slain. Deuteronomy 18:20


This verse of the Torah tells us that false prophets should be killed. It is an instruction, not an explaination on how to recognise false prophets.

However, the same texts is quite clear on how a false prophets are recognosed: they say things that God did not command and therefore their prophecies do not come to pass. The explanation is in fact immediately after the verse paarsurrey mentions.

That is the bit paarsurrey decided to leave out in his quote:

Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is very aptly described there, as Ahmed Bahgad has also shown with great detail, so I will not repeat it.

If Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not killed for his scam, that does not prove he was genuine... what kind of logic is that?... all it proves he was either crafty of very lucky. He is really very obviously a conman.

False Prophets are always killed in terms of Torah

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:28 pm
by paarsurrey
manfred wrote:
But the prophet, who being corrupted with pride, shall speak in my name things that I did not command him to say, or in the name of strange gods, shall be slain. Deuteronomy 18:20


This verse of the Torah tells us that false prophets should be killed. It is an instruction, not an explanation on how to recognize false prophets.



Hi friends

It is not an optional thing; it is a commandment that must be followed.Please read Deuteronomy again; it is a must .
The false Prophets have always been killed, otherwise the verse becomes meaningless. It is for this that we maintain that Jesus was not killed on the Cross; the Creator-God Allah YHWH planned things in such a way that Jesus survived against all odds; and finally he made good his escape to India.

Or

Please quote the verses from the Torah and the reason from Torah verses where explanation has been provided to recognize false prophets from the truthful ones; you won't find any, in my opinion, except the one I have already mentioned that false Prophets are killed.

Catholics Protestants to take it seriously; no derision or ridiculing like the un-natural Atheists Agnostics, please.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Re: An Ahmadi on Jesus [threads merged]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:35 pm
by Centaur
paarsurrey retard it does noy say prophets wont be killed, but kill the false prophets.may be that explains why paedo mo was poisoned.