gupsfu wrote:When someone uses the "taken out of context" argument without explaining what it's really supposed to mean, you know he's lying.
sword_of_truth wrote:This is a bit like a muslim attitude, here.
He goes and attacks the people making the argument, instead of just refuting the argument. A lot of muslims will riot, but a lot of them will just do precisely what ronyvo did and get all bent out of shape and complain that he's being persecuted. That's a bad attitude. You just refute the argument if you can. I don't accept this particular argument, but it seems fairly obscure to me.
Christianity has SOME nice aspects. That doesn't mean that it is 100% innocent. The Old Testament is plainly a very nasty book, and it's not out of some Satanic desire to bring down Christianity that we criticize it. That's just our opinion. It's not a very nice book. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. I'm not going to be dishonest and say it's great. Also, Christianity is irrational and doesn't make much sense. Again, that's just my opinion. It's not some big atheist conspiracy, we just find Christianity to be distasteful and unfounded. And it's okay if Christians think that about us. At least to me. It's fine. That's your perception, we're big bad atheists. But we don't need to get into a fight over it. It's just a disagreement, no big deal. Let's not make a big fuss about it. We just agree to disagree and move on.
By the way, people like Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Richard Dawkins are anti-Islamic. It's just that Christianity is what they know, and Christians are the ones they mostly have to deal with.
Chiclets wrote:What has this got to do with Breaking News on Islam ?
ixolite wrote:Chiclets wrote:What has this got to do with Breaking News on Islam ?
Nothing. Ronyvo just likes to drop his stuff wherever he is standing.
sword_of_truth: He goes and attacks the people making the argument, instead of just refuting the argument.
I never read a single negative thing about the life of Mohammed in the main stream media, the media instead of worrying about if Jesus was married or not and wasting our time on those issues, they could instead expose Islam and Mohammed and explain to its readers why their is so much violence and terrorism by Muslims around the world, by being honest and explaining what the Quran actually says and what Mohammed did, killing, robbery, torture, rape, pedophilia, slavery...ordering hate violence and oppression against none Muslims...all the things Jesus was against
Instead the media attack's a peaceful religion like Christianity and calls the violent religion of Islam
a peaceful religion, and not a word about Mohammed's evil violent life....
good is bad, and bad is good with the liberal press.
bunch of dishonest people....their credibility is fast going down the drain.
I would like to see Mohammad portrayed in a "Life of Brian" type film. How do you reckon THAT would go over on the "Arab street"?
How about if an "artist" suspended the crescent of Islam in a jar of urine as was done with the cross?
elle wrote:Does that mean that striking fear in the heart of your enemies works? It sure forces PC in your enemy? And that is exactly the effect they expect, respect out of fear!
debunker wrote:I never read a single negative thing about the life of Mohammed in the main stream media, the media instead of worrying about if Jesus was married or not and wasting our time on those issues, they could instead expose Islam and Mohammed and explain to its readers why their is so much violence and terrorism by Muslims around the world, by being honest and explaining what the Quran actually says and what Mohammed did, killing, robbery, torture, rape, pedophilia, slavery...ordering hate violence and oppression against none Muslims...all the things Jesus was against
Instead the media attack's a peaceful religion like Christianity and calls the violent religion of Islam
a peaceful religion, and not a word about Mohammed's evil violent life....
good is bad, and bad is good with the liberal press.
bunch of dishonest people....their credibility is fast going down the drain.
Dear S,
You know what I really hope for? Producing a program or a movie or a new series with the title: "Untold Stories from the Bible". Enough movies about Moses splitting the Sea... We want movies about Moses stoning men for waorking on a Satuday, Moses committing EVERY war crime there is on the Midianites, stories on how the city of Jericho was "devoted" to Yahweh, a story on how the tribe of Benjamin was almost wiped out with blessings from Yahweh.... etc, etc.... The Bible is a real treasure full of too many horrific scenes... I wonder why wouldn't the media or hollywood dare to tap into this age old book inspired by non other than Yahweh Himself?
debunker wrote:Dear S,
I say: Bring it on!
I really hope for movies depecting all the stories of the Quran and all the untold stories of Yahweh!
I would love to see the reaction of ignorant Christians when they learn (through movies) of bashing the heads of babies on rocks and ripping the bellies of pregnant women and burning whole cities along with its inhabitants as offering to Yahweh...
I just want to see how Christians would react to the UNKNOWN morality of Yahweh.
They would react as human beings and be sad, and see it as something that happened 4000 years ago, the same way Jews see it...
you see again u refuse to see that the OT is just that OLD, and gone, but Islam is still around it claims to be the final and last religion and its full of hate and voilence for all times, this is why Muslims are the most violent people today, violence every where Islam lives...for all times..
--> I will not contest the "details" of this account but I invite you to examine the background.How would Muslims react knowning Mohammed butchered 100s of defenceless men and boys tied up then had their heads chopped off, then raping their daughters sisters and wife's and taking them slaves
--> That's a lie... the only claim is that he married a 9 years old, but there are other accounts that she was as old as 21. (Which reminds me, do you believe the lie that Rebekah was only 3 years old when she married Isaac when he was 40?--according to Midrash).by Allah's prophet Mohammed....the man who also molests children
--> That's a shameless lie... and in Islam there's no such thing as adopted sons... a man cannot marry his son's ex-wife if he was his son by blood... I don't believe in this baloney that if you call someone your son, then he magically becomes your son. By the way, did you know that our Savior, Lord Jesus Christ is the grandson of the incestual relationship between Judah and Tamar?and steal his own adopted son's wife.
--> the beating wife thingy was for an isolated incident and not for all time... now compare that to selling your own daughter into slavery, as allowed by Yahweh! I guess nothing beats that!including beatings their wifes allowed for all times....
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