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Games Muslims Play: The Genocide of the Native Americans

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:50 pm
by pert
A common Islamic apologetic argument is "look at the extermination of the Natives of the Americas, that proves western civilisacion is is worse than anything the Islamic empires did"

Re: Games Muslims Play: The Genocide of the Native Americans

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:24 pm
by manfred
Somehow this is a kind of thing is a favourite way to try and defend indefensible things in Muslim circles. It is a logical fallacy, called "Tu Quoque". It is saying somethings is not really bad because something else is worse, which usually completely unrelated. A kills his neighbour B because he hates black people. In court his defence is "Hitler killed millions of Jews, and you are concerned about ME???" I am sure you agree that defence would not work very well at all. Hitler's behaviour does not justify or excuse anybody else's bad behaviour.

It is frustrating that many Muslims will keep on referring to tu quoque arguments over and over, however many times you tell them that it is a logical fallacy.

The most recent one of this kind was about Ariel's video clip about two Jewish guys being pelted with snow balls by a bunch Arab kids. The excuse given was that "the Jews" kill and illegally imprison many Palestinians, so how dare she mention an incident like this.

THESE TWO men did that? How does one alleged bad thing justify another?

I have gone over this so many times with Muslims I lost count. And it comes back like a bad penny over and over.

Re: Games Muslims Play: The Genocide of the Native Americans

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:32 am
by Nosuperstition
manfred wrote:And you are making excuses for child abuse by suggesting that a younger age of MARRIAGE (perhaps 14 for girls)


viewtopic.php?f=22&t=18173

O.K,sometimes I do resort to tu quo que,but according to the famed Khalistani defender of this forum from Canada named Chanakya,when Yohan resorted to it,it is nothing but showing mirror.Anyway this showing the mirror technique was also used by white supremacists at frontpagemag when they said that since African blacks also grabbed land from earlier blacks,them the whites,resorting to the same is also acceptable.

And speaking from a psychological viewpoint,Tu Quoques help lighten the burden of guilt consciousness,if any.

Re: Games Muslims Play: The Genocide of the Native Americans

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:30 pm
by Nosuperstition
Nonsense. Kashmir was not Hindu before the Aryans invaded India. At this point, Kashmir is not Hindu.


viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1472&p=21691&hilit=Aryans#p21691

So supposed Aryan invasion which is based on a vast hypothesis of speculation justifies its forcible re-colonisation by its new colonisers namely the Persian and Afghan Muslims according to our Pakistani forummer.Plain tu quoque.We read in history books that the virgin forests of the Gangetic plains were cleared for agriculture by Aryans.So who knows even Kashmir might have been a virgin land without any previous history of any other people being settled there before people of Indo-Aryan stock settled in it.

Re: Games Muslims Play: The Genocide of the Native Americans

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:39 pm
by Nosuperstition
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=17517&p=232203&hilit=Suffice#p232203

Now that is also a Tu Quoque from a Jewish apologist. However the amount of land the Jews have conquered is very small as compared with others.

Now in the old forum,a forum member with the nick antineoliberalaxegrinder ( whose nick in this forum is antineoETC) said that given half-a chance,animals do not hesitate to kill other animals and eat them ,hence he too has no compunctions in eating animals.That is also a Tu Quoque.

Now at frontpagemag,there appeared a comment which said that this world originally did not belong to humans but was forcibly colonised by them.So are you going to give back land to animals?That was his question.That is also a Tu Quoque.