paxi christi wrote: mistranslated in 1 Timothy 2: 11-15.
paxi christi wrote:yos
stop your mouth,keep it shut and think.
you cant help but talk before you think.this will be the end of you.believe me.
now to keep it short and sweet.and very very simple..
the text i gave you fits in with the life style of the western world.just look at the professions of women.in the church and schools ,hospitals,,they have equality.so my post previous was right eh?
. ive told you think before you speak..they call those people bigmouths,or gob sh1tes where im from .
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now lets look at your way of life witth women..
in britain alone 90% of women dont work,they have to stay at home.they are made to wear burka or habibs,niquab(spellings) etc.they have to share there husband with many other wives.which in fact it should be illegal.but the dhimmies are sh!t scared to do some thing about it.
they cannot have a relationship/marraige with any person who is not muslim/islamic.without haveing the other person converting.
the list is endless yos.
your a gob sh1te.you run your mouth behind computers like the muslims run there mouth behind PC...lololol.
you have a chance to get away from it all thogh..kick that muppet with a puppet in touch..and take stock of your life and take it from there...
you can save yourself you know without the aid of the pedophilia of a sand pirate and his jinn you know...grow some balls.
pr126 wrote:Yos loves a tu quoque. What else does he have?
What he is really saying is "Look at your Bible, it is just as bad as the Quran!"
Of course it is, most of it was plagiarized from the Bible. Very badly.
Everybody knows that. Except Muslims.
This is typical Christianty, your excuse about the mistranslation didnt work now you restore to insults.
Paul’s letters are already difficult to interpret because they are like listening to one side of a telephone conversation,
Hesuchios/Hesuchia: Traditionalists normally translate this word as “silence” (at least in passages concerning women), but the word in all other places is translated as “peacefulness” “Peaceable” or “quietness.” The word does not carry the meaning of literal silence or absence of speech, but of an atmosphere or presence in which learning should take place. Strong’s Greek Dictionary defines hesuchios/hesuchias as “properly, keeping one’s seat,” “stillness” “undisturbed,” “undisturbing,” and “peaceable.”
Exousia is the normal word used for “authority,” a carrying out of one’s official duties. But this is not the word Paul uses here. He instead picks the word authentein and it is the ONLY time this word appears in the New Testament. Exousia, however, appears over 100 times. Other uses of authentein from the same time period show that this word does not simply mean legitimate or routine authority, but carries violent, sexual, and dominating meanings.
Authentein.It cannot be stressed enough how unusual this word is, especially for Paul. Paul writes about authority quite a bit and he never uses authentein as a synonym for legitimate, godly authority. For most mentions of authority, he uses exousia. Louw and Nida’s Lexicon lists 12 common ancient Greek words that are synonyms for routine or legitimate authority, exousia being the most common throughout the new testament.
“There is a basically unbroken tradition, stemming from the oldest version and running down to the twenty first century, that translates authentein as “to dominate” and not “to exercise authority over.”-Linda Belleville
It is not until the 1500s that the verb authentein used in this verse changes from the drastically negatively-charged “to dominate/domineer” to a slightly water-downed phrase, “to usurp authority” (thanks, King James). Still different from exercising legitimate authority, but much less forceful than the violent and even sexual connotations of the original authentein. The King James version asserts that women are not to wrestle authority or seize it from men. No believer is permitted to usurp authority or act in self-interest over others. It is not until after World War II that authentein really gets the botched-translated: “to exercise/assume authority over.” That’s right, less than 80 years ago! So, the notion that women may never exercise godly authority within the body based on this verse is completely unbiblical, both logically and historically.
.western world laws.
The same word is also used in 1 Peter 3:4
Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.
Western world laws are not Christian laws.....
you are right they are made up Christian,juediasm,humanism...........note no islamic/sharia..........
Same-sex marriage in the United States is not recognized by the federal government, but such marriages are recognized by some individual states.
Leviticus 20:10
"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
paxi christi wrote:yosLeviticus 20:10
"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
you and all the moslems in the western world would be put to death for blasphemy if that was western law,you fool.you dont believe in old testament or the new.jesus not son of god,crucifiction, resurrection..you are not put to death,why do you think that is? because its not islam/sharia..you have just pointed some verse from your bag of knowledge and you cannot put it in line with,the laws of the west.why is that yos? you dumb or some thing..running your big mouth again..![]()
ill tell you why,you are nothing but a troll.getting a buzz out of trying to taking the piss.lol.
your mouth is at it again..is your head empty by any chance,you dont seem to understand any thing at all.
lets talk about what ive said but put it in a say moslem country.what would happen to me for doing blasphemy??
can you see the difference comming to light in every post we make yet???
of course you can,better still so can joe public reading this aswell.
lets talk about sharia yos. on equality to every one non muslims and women alike,eh??
paxi christi wrote:your a gob sh1te.
paxi christi wrote:you and all the moslems in the western world would be put to death for blasphemy if that was western law,you fool.you dont believe in old testament or the new.jesus not son of god,crucifiction, resurrection..you are not put to death,why do you think that is?
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