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A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:26 am
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
I have been debating someone over at youtube who is bound and determined to keep stating the same tired homilies that leftists have been saying in defense of Islam for years. He is bold and brave. His name is Steffan West. I met him over at the comments section for the video entitled "Chomsky on Islam" Let's look at his comments here and get acquainted with his take on how the Middle East and Islam operates.


Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:28 pm
by charleslemartel
If someday the free world loses out to Islam, these leftists will learn the facts in a hard way. The Iranian experience does not seem to have opened their eyes.

Let us hope he accepts your invitation.

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:37 pm
by Brendalee
I doubt he will. He seems frightened enough of the facts as they are presented in the comments section; I doubt he would like to come here where he gets the proof in URLs.

If he does come though, you should invite him to the exclusive rooms, Ansar, so he does not get the multiple attacks he indicates he fears (with his comments about the site being politically biased, etc.).

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:31 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Thanks for responding. I think that this guy could actually make his points across if he wasn't so dependent on making use of insults and amplifying the diversionary Christianity vs. Islam thing with so many tu-quoque statements. It's so obvious that he wants to rile people up in a pseudo-debate that prevents others from getting their points across. At one point he agreed with me about the issue of concision and how it pertains to the limited texting format at youtube. Then he turns around and claims that the youtube format is OK and makes the point that one doesn't have to register to start posting there. Hello! How else does anyone get to to start posting anything at youtube? :roll: I think he will keep posting since he seems like the kind of guy who really needs to get in the last word but already I know that most viewers will see that he is rather desperate.

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:33 am
by debunker
If someday the free world loses out to Islam, these leftists will learn the facts in a hard way. The Iranian experience does not seem to have opened their eyes.

Let us hope he accepts your invitation.


:) Charles, I love how you keep repeating your fear of Islam and how it will engulf the world with its viscious darkness. Relax dear, you have nothing to fear from Muslims... whether they're all evil or not, they're nothing but little ants. The coming war will be (again) between the giants. The US/Europe/China/Russia, etc all will be warring against each other to compete for the world's largest oil basin: the Middle East... You have but to fear each other and don't worry about the ants... whenever they cause you too much trouble you could always spray them like you sprayed Hiroshima.

Regards.

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:42 am
by Brendalee
So you are now a prophet, debunker?

I doubt I am one, but I don't think we need any prophet to see that Mr. Dinnerjacket is dying to nuke Israel with an Islamic bomb or two; or that the Taliban COULD conceivably get control of Pakistan's nuclear weapons and use their Islamic bombs on you-know-who. (Are these not the Muslim "ants" you refer to and tell us not to fear?)

Then the entire area would go up like a skyrocket; and then, yes, the great powers might well get involved then with their own nukes.

Your frivolous mention of Hiroshima merits no further comment in this context.

As for your mention of OIL, the Arabs have a strange view of it: They did not find it. Kaffirs did. They did not have a use for it or know what it was for. Kaffirs did. They did not know how to extract it. Kaffirs did. They, even today, do not extract it. They hire Kaffirs to do it all for them. Without their Kaffir employees, they could extract NOTHING. But it is OPEC that controls it, sets the prices, sells it (to the Kaffirs), and spends the profits as they please.

Although long overdue, the Kaffir countries are now developing technologies in order to reduce the need for buying oil from Muslim countries. These technologies will spread.

There will never be superpower nuclear wars over oil in the Middle East. Any such conflagration would be the Muslims attacking the Jews - not a thing to do with oil. And the retaliation would light up the whole world.

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:17 pm
by charleslemartel
debunker wrote:
If someday the free world loses out to Islam, these leftists will learn the facts in a hard way. The Iranian experience does not seem to have opened their eyes.

Let us hope he accepts your invitation.


:) Charles, I love how you keep repeating your fear of Islam and how it will engulf the world with its viscious darkness. Relax dear, you have nothing to fear from Muslims... whether they're all evil or not, they're nothing but little ants. The coming war will be (again) between the giants. The US/Europe/China/Russia, etc all will be warring against each other to compete for the world's largest oil basin: the Middle East... You have but to fear each other and don't worry about the ants... whenever they cause you too much trouble you could always spray them like you sprayed Hiroshima.

Regards.


They are no little ants. I see them, I mean the religious Muslims, as zombies with no regard to human life and freedom including their own. I know that the large majority of Muslims are not a threat in general, but unfortunately as they are exposed to other cultures and people they are becoming more and more aware of their religion and the so called word of Allah. I fear a Muslim who takes those words seriously.

If I could, I would most certainly spray them, but not with what Hiroshima and Nagasaki were sprayed. I will spray them with some "anti-blind-belief" aerosol :)

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:04 pm
by debunker
@ Brenda

So you are now a prophet, debunker?

I doubt I am one, but I don't think we need any prophet to see that Mr. Dinnerjacket is dying to nuke Israel with an Islamic bomb or two; or that the Taliban COULD conceivably get control of Pakistan's nuclear weapons and use their Islamic bombs on you-know-who. (Are these not the Muslim "ants" you refer to and tell us not to fear?)


I don't like Iran myself but I don't want war. Iran is like a perputal nightmare for the Arabs. But I still don't support war against them. And don't worry about Israel... Iran is interested in controlling the Arab oil fields and don't give a damn about Israel... They're just bluffing to advance their ideology (Shiite Islam)... Iranians want to control the Persian gulf nothing more, nothing less. As for Pakistan, I think the wisest thing this country should do is to give Kashmir to India and get rid of their nuclear power... Kashmir has always been a curse... they should get rid of it along with their nuclear weapons which attract the wrong crowd (the most excellent Taliban).

As for your mention of OIL, the Arabs have a strange view of it: They did not find it. Kaffirs did. They did not have a use for it or know what it was for. Kaffirs did. They did not know how to extract it. Kaffirs did. They, even today, do not extract it. They hire Kaffirs to do it all for them. Without their Kaffir employees, they could extract NOTHING. But it is OPEC that controls it, sets the prices, sells it (to the Kaffirs), and spends the profits as they please.


I guess Arabs should give up their oil fields, then?

Although long overdue, the Kaffir countries are now developing technologies in order to reduce the need for buying oil from Muslim countries. These technologies will spread.


Amen to that!

There will never be superpower nuclear wars over oil in the Middle East. Any such conflagration would be the Muslims attacking the Jews - not a thing to do with oil. And the retaliation would light up the whole world.


Like I said Iranians are just bluffing regarding Israel... Iranians want Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, Eastern Saudi Arabia, etc... much like how Saddam was bluffing regarding Israel but he attacked Kuwait instead (his real interest). Anyway, since you guys are capable of developing alternative energy methods then you shouldn't worry about Iran occupying the Arab states of the Persian Gulf. And Iranians know that you can turn their country into a parking lot at the slightest attack against Israel. and you know that they know this... you just don't like the prospect of Iran controlling the Persian gulf (neither do we) but you shouldn't care about us, right? After all, your only interest is oil and soon (supposedly) you won't need it as you'll be enjoying the fruits of your alternative energy research.

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:56 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
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Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:05 pm
by Idesigner
Dear A.Z.

You did a good job. You practically shut him up.

You invited him at FFI. I dont think he will show up here. Although if he find out about blind hatred for Obama all over FFI , his COLB, slur against his white mom and loaded questions about his brought up, religion & education, stay aboroad will sure meke us bit defensive. He wil go back with lots of amos, ths for sure. :D

Id.

Re: A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:46 am
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Idesigner wrote:Dear A.Z.

You did a good job. You practically shut him up.

You invited him at FFI. I dont think he will show up here. Although if he find out about blind hatred for Obama all over FFI , his COLB, slur against his white mom and loaded questions about his brought up, religion & education, stay aboroad will sure meke us bit defensive. He wil go back with lots of amos, ths for sure. :D

Id.


Thanks Idesigner,

He started posting at another channel and that ex-Muslim guy he debated with (CamAtheist) said stupid things like "death to all Muslims". When extremists start posting things like that I take it as something I will have to inevitably denounce by articulating my positions even more clearly. He can really make use of the Obama Obsession here for his ends but it only has so much power if one explains how Islam can drive even the most articulate people into obsessive insanity. We know very well that this forum and website is very divided and getting that point across is paramount when making the case against Islam.

A Challenge to Steffan West

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:42 am
by AlexmenCorn
Ok abuse aside, what kind of trash do you have to be to film yourself beating the sh!t out of your kid and upload it to the internet?