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Postby uknow » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:58 am

Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

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Postby skynightblaze » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:58 am

uknow wrote:Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

UKnow



I read the complete debate and there is no way Lincoln was making any strong arguments. Infact after I read Lincolns last response I didnt feel the need to see what Khalil's counter response (though I did go through his counter response) as I myself could see holes in his arguments .Regarding point 2 Khalil has actually dealt with it saying that 5 pillars do make up islam but let me add to what he wrote and surprise you.

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The
questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodess)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." The questioner again asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, "To perform Hajj (Pilgrim age to Mecca) 'Mubrur, (which is accepted by Allah and is performed with the intention of seeking Allah's pleasure only and not to show off and without committing a sin and in accordance with the traditions of the Prophet)."



Please pay attention to this hadith. IT says next goodness after having faith in Allah and Muhhamad is Jihad .A point should be noted that Jihad is placed even before Hajj i,e one of the 5 pillars of Islam. This is sufficient to prove that Jihad tops the list of pillars of ISlam eventhough It isnt mentioned in the hadiths talking about 5 pillars.

This also proves that the muslims interpreting Islam as a religion of peace are 100 % incorrect and are on the wrong path.YOu must have seen that understanding of the majority of Ummah is flawed .The only people who are on the right track of Islam are the terrorists who honestly carry out their duty of religious fighting i.e Jihad after having faith in Allah.Rest of the muslims simply havent grasped the real message of Islam.

I will be commenting more on the arguments of Lincoln..
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Re: Comments on Lincoln X KhaliL Debate

Postby KhaliL » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:22 pm

uknow wrote:Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

UKnow


Hey UKnow aka Lincoln,

There is no need of this drama at all.

If you had not tried to disturb the flow of debate; it would have gone smoothly. You got what you deserved. Now, there is no use in whining about it. You can not do any damage repair through multinicking and posting here as a UKnow. Again, you are trying to fool out people here. But in case you did not get it yet, we infidels are way smarter than you Muslims in all fields.

Stay cool; be patient. I will deal with whatever you brought up. But if you still come up preaching, you will be at the receiving end. That's all;

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Re: Comments on Lincoln X KhaliL Debate

Postby uknow » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:59 am

KhaliL FarieL wrote:
uknow wrote:Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

UKnow


Hey UKnow aka Lincoln,

There is no need of this drama at all.

If you had not tried to disturb the flow of debate; it would have gone smoothly. You got what you deserved. Now, there is no use in whining about it. You can not do any damage repair through multinicking and posting here as a UKnow. Again, you are trying to fool out people here. But in case you did not get it yet, we infidels are way smarter than you Muslims in all fields.

Stay cool; be patient. I will deal with whatever you brought up. But if you still come up preaching, you will be at the receiving end. That's all;

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Hi Khalil,

How come you are saying I am Lincolin? :heh: If the reason: my comments do not favour you. So I am really sorry for you. It only shows your phobia as infidel: anyone does not favour you, you consider him as enemy. sorry buddy.

By the way how come you are saying Jihad is on the top of all pillars of Islam? :lol: Can you explain how?

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Postby Chiclets » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:06 am

hello n welcome back BMZ :*)
gupsfu wrote:When someone uses the "taken out of context" argument without explaining what it's really supposed to mean, you know he's lying.

Muslims are so secure in their faith that they need to kill those who don’t share it.
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Re: Comments on Lincoln X KhaliL Debate

Postby skynightblaze » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:25 am

uknow wrote:
KhaliL FarieL wrote:
uknow wrote:Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

UKnow


Hey UKnow aka Lincoln,

There is no need of this drama at all.

If you had not tried to disturb the flow of debate; it would have gone smoothly. You got what you deserved. Now, there is no use in whining about it. You can not do any damage repair through multinicking and posting here as a UKnow. Again, you are trying to fool out people here. But in case you did not get it yet, we infidels are way smarter than you Muslims in all fields.

Stay cool; be patient. I will deal with whatever you brought up. But if you still come up preaching, you will be at the receiving end. That's all;

Regards
KF



Hi Khalil,

How come you are saying I am Lincolin? :heh: If the reason: my comments do not favour you. So I am really sorry for you. It only shows your phobia as infidel: anyone does not favour you, you consider him as enemy. sorry buddy.

By the way how come you are saying Jihad is on the top of all pillars of Islam? :lol: Can you explain how?

UKnow



IT has already been explained here by me. Your own hadiths say that jihad comes first before hajj. IT immediately comes after faith in GOD so there is the proof of Jihad being the topmost pillar of islam. Btw Islam is not just about 5 pillars. IF it was then there would be no need of quran. IS this fact hard to understand for you MR??
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Postby Aksel Ankersen » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:40 am

uknow wrote:Hi Khalil,

How come you are saying I am Lincolin? :heh: If the reason: my comments do not favour you. So I am really sorry for you. It only shows your phobia as infidel: anyone does not favour you, you consider him as enemy. sorry buddy.

By the way how come you are saying Jihad is on the top of all pillars of Islam? :lol: Can you explain how?

UKnow

It's probably because you make the same kind of grammatical errors as Lincoln.

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Postby KhaliL » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:48 am

Aksel Ankersen wrote:
uknow wrote:Hi Khalil,

How come you are saying I am Lincolin? :heh: If the reason: my comments do not favour you. So I am really sorry for you. It only shows your phobia as infidel: anyone does not favour you, you consider him as enemy. sorry buddy.

By the way how come you are saying Jihad is on the top of all pillars of Islam? :lol: Can you explain how?

UKnow

It's probably because you make the same kind of grammatical errors as Lincoln.

Truly, a man's pen is his second face.


Exactly;

I had doubts but Aksel doesn't make many mistakes. Now I am certain;

And to those who read the comments first, Debate is here: Click: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1937

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Re: Comments on Lincoln X KhaliL Debate

Postby uknow » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:01 am

KhaliL FarieL wrote:
Aksel Ankersen wrote:
uknow wrote:Hi Khalil,

How come you are saying I am Lincolin? :heh: If the reason: my comments do not favour you. So I am really sorry for you. It only shows your phobia as infidel: anyone does not favour you, you consider him as enemy. sorry buddy.

By the way how come you are saying Jihad is on the top of all pillars of Islam? :lol: Can you explain how?

UKnow

It's probably because you make the same kind of grammatical errors as Lincoln.

Truly, a man's pen is his second face.


Exactly;

I had doubts but Aksel doesn't make many mistakes. Now I am certain;

And to those who read the comments first, Debate is here: Click: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1937

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Khalil,

You need to learn the debate manner. How come you are writing at the comments section to defend yourself? So funny
You still think I am Linoclin....hahhahaa.

Learn debate manner. You must know that as debate participant you cannot write at this comments section. Might be very hard for you to refrain you doing this.

Hold on. What am i expectiong from an infidel nut? :lol:


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Postby FinallyFree » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:05 am

Chiclets wrote:hello n welcome back BMZ :*)


And the prize for this weeks BMZ spotting has been awarded to....

Anyway, anyone with two eyes and an IQ above room temperature can see that this "uknow" (BMZ or something similar) has a skewed outlook on the debate from the beginning and is only doing it to support his religion/his co-religionist.

Pathetic attempt

Absolutely pathetic. You are a waste of bandwidth and space.
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Postby KhaliL » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:16 am

uknow wrote: Khalil,

You need to learn the debate manner. How come you are writing at the comments section to defend yourself? So funny
You still think I am Linoclin....hahhahaa.

Learn debate manner. You must know that as debate participant you cannot write at this comments section. Might be very hard for you to refrain you doing this.

Hold on. What am i expectiong from an infidel nut? :lol:


Regard Uknow.


LOL, Now, I think me and Aksel went wrong in our guess. Your post reminds me of a recent debate in another forum where debaters were not allowed to post in the comments section.

FYI, if by debate manners you mean “not to commit logical fallacies in a debate” I know it well and I am perfectly in line with logic. BUT, I have committed a logical fallacy in my later responses because Lincoln tried to deflect the debate by disturbing the flow. That forced me to resort to argumentum ad hominem. It was natural; but not sufficient excuse for me to personalize some matters.

But where is the guy I am debating? If he asks for an apology, I will consider but where art thou Lincoln...?

Secondly, if it is about personal manners, yup, I preserve some morals. Not lying between my teeth is one of them. I don’t lie to get access to anywhere be it an internet forum or a place where I want to be in. I don’t boast myself as pilot, vascular surgeon doing gallbladder surgeries… or retired colonel............ If I find it inappropriate to disclose anything of myself, I stay mute on it but do not lie.

Next, here in this forum, it is NOT against debate manners that debaters too can post in Comments’ section. I have done many Exclusive Debates in this forum; I have added my response to those who comment on the debate too because I want to add my response to posters who asks questions on my debate.

Simply, I don’t like to spoil the bandwidth of this forum by creating another thread to comment on the comments of debate. Since this forum does not prohibit me on posting in comments section, and since I am NOT agreed on NOT posting in comments thread, I am entitled to post in a thread you started too. You can accuse me of not having manners if you requested me to not to post in this thread which you created.

Got it?

So what’s up now? Ah… get a life dude, do not whine;

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Postby skynightblaze » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:50 pm

@Khalil

I think this is yet another incarnation of all time great troll BMZ. His style of writing mirrors BMZ. I am damn sure that none can match BMZ capability of trolling even if one decides to do it purposely.
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Postby Lincoln » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:57 am

uknow wrote:Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

UKnow


Salam uknow,

You got the fact perfectly right.

Its really suprising to see that an ex-Muslim doesnt know the importance of five basic duties of Muslims. Its even more astonishing to see that he(khalil) gifts the top position to Jihad forgetting the fact that its not even an obligatory task for Muslims in peaceful situation. This is what best we can expect from these so-called ex-Muslims..

May The Almighty Allah bless all.


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Postby KhaliL » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:06 am

Lincoln wrote:
Spoiler! :
uknow wrote:Quick Comments:

1) Lincoln has full control over the debate as I got Lincolin easily reads Khalil intentions
2) Khalil does know know about Islam as he is telling jihad is on top on all other pillars. It shows Khalil limited knowledge about Islam.
3) I found Khalil struggling (doing his own jihad) to debate with Lincoln as i found him short temper by saying to Lincoln that "You do not have manners .... Muslim"

Keep it up both of you.

UKnow


Salam uknow,

You got the fact perfectly right.

Its really suprising to see that an ex-Muslim doesnt know the importance of five basic duties of Muslims. Its even more astonishing to see that he(khalil) gifts the top position to Jihad forgetting the fact that its not even an obligatory task for Muslims in peaceful situation. This is what best we can expect from these so-called ex-Muslims..

May The Almighty Allah bless all.


Best Wishes.


LOL... you should do it in the thread we are debating on IT. I don't give a hoot to what a Muslim like you think of Ex-Muslims.

Go on and embark the thread. Refute me particularly on the point I made about "IMAN" = "FAITH".

Go on..

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Postby Chief Chingachgook » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:57 pm

Lincoln wrote:Salam uknow,

You got the fact perfectly right.

Its really suprising to see that an ex-Muslim doesnt know the importance of five basic duties of Muslims. Its even more astonishing to see that he(khalil) gifts the top position to Jihad forgetting the fact that its not even an obligatory task for Muslims in peaceful situation. This is what best we can expect from these so-called ex-Muslims..

May The Almighty Allah bless all.


Best Wishes.


Since when do Muslims live in peace? :lotpot:
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