fudgy wrote: charleslemartel wrote:
The embarrassing part here is the obvious ignorance of Allah in the matters of the cosmos; now the humans know far better than Allah of Quran that shooting stars (meteors) are NOT the missiles to fire at some jinns
It is immaterial how YOU choose to treat Quran. If it claims to be the word of God, it must not contain even a single error, scientific, historic or on any subject. A single error is enough to prove that it cannot be from the creator God. That Muslims do not accept this simple fact is another matter.
I do not get you Charles, can you clarify your positions again. Where exactly do you get a shooting star from? And why couldn't they be fired at Jinns?
Fudgy, let us change the "shooting stars" to meteors or meteorites if you wish. They couldn't be fired at anything, let alone Jinns, because firing implies something stationary thrown/hurled/propelled suddenly towards some target. We know that meteorites are not stationary before they enter in to the earth's atmosphere; they keep revolving around the sun at various speeds. Because of the difference in their speeds compared to that of the earth, they enter in to the earth's atmosphere; faster ones catch up with earth and the slower ones are caught up by the earth. Then they are pulled in by the earth's gravity and we see them tracing a fiery trail.
Secondly, if you claim that their movement towards the earth's surface is due to their being fired towards the jinns who flee towards the earth's surface, it would imply the following:
1. Allah resides within the earth's atmosphere, because it is only when these already moving meteorites enter the atmosphere, they get pulled in by the earth's gravity and hence change their original course.
2. As a corollary to the point 1 above, it would appear that Allah thought planets, stars (including the sun) and other heavenly bodies were contained within the earth's atmosphere.
3. Jinns are earth bound entities and they reside on earth's surface or somewhere below it. They feel they would be safer on the earth's surface, so they flee towards it.