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Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:14 pm
by Nosuperstition
I don't get the point of a hindu coming to islamo critic forum and posting this drivel.

whats next posting all the caste, untouchables crap from Hindu texts on this forum?


Now if you were addressing marduk,o.k,you write to the moderators to ban her.I do not think she is a Hindu.If you were addressing me,I was only pointing out that Hindus of certain occupations had practiced extreme austerity.I do not even know if I am a Hindu.Most of the time ,I try to think with logic and not with mumbo-jumbo.

And regarding castes,they have always existed in all ancient societies.Ancient Persians of Iran supposedly had 7 classes while Hindus have only four if some of the texts are to be literally followed.Even that they do not follow.

In the now extinct original religion of Persia,the ruling class was called Xatia,much similiar to Hindu Kshatriya.It is industrialisation that removed the need for different castes for different occupations in the Western society.There always existed people of the same religion whose occupations existed as they existed in Hinduism.Else they would have discontinued their occupations the moment they embraced that new religion.Who afterall loves to give up their hereditary benefits?

Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:53 am
by Centaur
Hindu caste is not something some one can ever change.if someone is born into a caste, that's is it, he/she would remain in that caste for the rest of their life regardless of what they achieve personally. Its not a lifestyle choice . Saying other cultures also practiced the same or something similar to that doesn't help here .

Hindu caste has nothing to do with class where people would be classed based on their abilities and achievements but rather an attempt classify people based on racial differences. And on top of these you got untouchables that doesn't belong to any caste. outcasts or the lowest of the society.

Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:07 pm
by Nosuperstition
Centaur wrote:Hindu caste is not something some one can ever change.if someone is born into a caste, that's is it, he/she would remain in that caste for the rest of their life regardless of what they achieve personally. Its not a lifestyle choice . Saying other cultures also practiced the same or something similar to that doesn't help here .

Hindu caste has nothing to do with class where people would be classed based on their abilities and achievements but rather an attempt classify people based on racial differences. And on top of these you got untouchables that doesn't belong to any caste. outcasts or the lowest of the society.


Suneel was another of my childhood friends.He got the skin color and facial attributes of his father thought his mother was relatively red.He too was quite successful in life.

Girish was my childhood best friend who was good at studies.Now his father named Esu Baabu(=Baby Jesus) was dark while his mother was red.He got the facial attributes and skin color of his mother which were different from those of his father.He belonged to the Kapu caste.

Now another acquaintance of mine who belonged to the Reddy caste also had the exact same attributes.So how exactly is caste = race?Please explain.

In fact ,word 'Saheb' in Maratha surnames such as Baba Saheb Ambedkar and Bala Saheb Thackeray are of Muslim origin , not Sanskrit.

Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:05 pm
by Nosuperstition
Centaur wrote:(not to say homosexuality is appreciated by God).


There were diverse view points about homosexuality.One theory says that when the foetus is in the pregnant womb of a mother who is subjected to severe stress,it is born that way.Another viewpoint about which I have come to know in this very forum is that when you severely restrict normal male to female relationships in the society by imposing Victorian and Puritanical morals in the society,such things become a extremely pervasive in the society as it happens in Saudi Arabia as on today,as an outlet of channeling your natural drive,even though that might not be legal.

Whatever the truth,God himself seems to be the source for the prevalence of this sort of behaviour,either directly or indirectly. Now to say that you abhor it when it is consensual is akin to someone of this forum saying that you are finding fault with God when he created you imperfectly without being born circumcised.

Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:36 pm
by Nosuperstition
I have seen a number of other married couples in my real life where quite red and relatively darker ones got married amongst Hindus.However,it is also equally true that in matrimonials many advertise their skin color as "fair" and only seek matches of the same color and of the same caste and with more or less the same educational qualifications.

But then there is a saying in Telugu deriding such people "guravinda ginja tana kindi nalupu erugadu"(The abrus precatorious seed does not know the black at its bottom).

Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:22 pm
by Nosuperstition
While discussing Hinduism,it seems Yohan of the old forum mentioned about how Hindu matrimonials are racist when they mention about how they seek only "fair" skinned ones as life partners.But then they don't just seek based only on color,but also based on their educational qualifications as well as caste.But then , that happens only in case of them being married for the first time.If ever they are marrying for the second time ,many say caste no bar and also lower the educational standards.

Now that is not much different to both Brahmins and Conquistadors marrying more than one wife,the first always being a Brahmin and the white respectively while the natives can be one of the other wives, when they were in an expansionist mood.Nowadays since there is no expansionism,they clearly state their preferences in crystal clear terms.

Also if ever one of the party,either male or female is a rich as well as dark,they have a fair chance of securing a poor fair skinned partner.That is what I have been continuously observing right from my childhood.And such a partnership lasts for the whole life,not just for so long as your crush lasts.

Re: Bible Qualifies as Hate Speech

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:40 pm
by Nosuperstition
Ioshkafutz of the old forum once said that he would oppose tooth and nail the entrenchment of racist Hindu caste system in the West.Hindus are more mixed with regards to skin colors than most other religions in this world.So is he opposed to people of different colors getting married on a large scale when he states that he is opposed to racist Hindu caste system?