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using the Koran to attack Christianity

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:08 pm
by ronyvo
(Conclusion) Using the Koran to attack Christianity

As I have proven the ignorance of those 2 PhDs (the Saudi Arabian scholars in my previous 3 replies to their unfounded attacks on Christianity, I’ll summarize as follows:
1- All Christians believe in ONE God. Jesus Christ IS GOD. We don’t worship St Mary. Mohammad’s accusation that Christians believe in 3 gods is from his satanic imagination and utter ignorance.
Over 3 Billion Christians in the world who believe in ONE GOD for over 2000 years, then comes one person (Mohammad) about 600 years after the Lord Jesus Christ and spread a lie that Christians worship 3 gods, is either due to ignorance or deception, actually both.
2- Mohammad is one of those false prophets that Jesus warned of. The Muslims trying to spread the lie, that the comforter (The Holy Spirit) is Mohammad.
3- Mohammad could not make up his mind. That is why the Koran is full of contradictions. Here are some examples:
“Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously.” Surah 73:10 But in Surah 2:191 “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you.”
Also, “There is no compulsion in religion.” Surah 2:256, While in Surah 193 “Fight (kill) them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s (Islam).”
Also, “Argue with the people of the Book, other than evil doers, only by means of what are better! And say we believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you. Our God is the same as your God, and we are surrendered to Him;” Surah 29:46 While in Surah 9:29 “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day…nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam), (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay Jizia (tribute tax) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
“If you were in doubt as to what have revealed unto you, then ask those who have been reading the Book (the Bible) from before you; the truth has indeed come from your Lord; so be in no wise of those in doubt.” Surah 10:94
Also, the Koran states that the Bible is the Word of God: “Can you ( O you men of faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.” Surah 2:75
4- The 2 PhDs, who used the NOBLE HOLY Koran to attack Christianity, wrote
“ Jesus did not attribute divinity to Himself.” This is, also, WRONG.
Jesus said, “ I am the way, the truth, and the life.” John 14:6
Also, “ If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and
From now on you know Him and have seen Him.” John 14:7
He also said, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father.” John 14:9
Also, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and
who believes in Me shall never thirst.” John 6:35
“I and My Father are ONE”. John 10:30
“All that the Father has, is mine”. John 16:15
“And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me.” John 12:45
Jesus asked the blind man who Jesus gave him sight, “Do you believe in the Son of God?” He answered and said, “Who is He, Lord that I may believe in Him?” And Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you.”
The discourse with the Jews: “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto Him, thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you before Abraham was, I am”. John 8:56-58

The Muslim leaders should stop attacking the Bible, which has stood the test of time. Historical and scientific evidence shows that Christians and Jews did not alter their scriptures, as they desperately claim.
Many manuscripts of early copies of the Bible were discovered through the years:
-The Sinaitic, which was written about 270 years before Islam
-The Alexandrian, which was written 200 years before Islam.
Those are kept now in the British Museum.
-The Vatican, which was written 300 years before Islam.
Those, and others such as Codex Ephraemi and the Dead Sea Scrolls and thousands of other copies.
And, where is the original Bible?!!!!

They should concentrate on cleaning their Koran from the so overwhelming contradictions and the historic, scientific and geographical errors, which Mohammad ignorantly spread. We are in the 21st century. Islam is trying to take us to the stone age.
The Muslim leaders should take off the robe of Islamic force and violence and put on the Robe of love and follow the Prince of love the Lord Jesus Christ.

Re: using the Koran to attack Christianity

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:43 pm
by manfred
Here is a simple way to explain "trinity" to a Muslim, who has been told all kinds of odd things about that, such as "Allah, Isa and Mary" being the "trinity".....

Mohammed had a son who died aearly and he also had a daughter who survived him. So he was a FATHER. He also had a father, so he was a SON at the same time.... and he was alive, so had the "breath" of life.... there was something of a spirit in him "inspiring" him.

In addition, Mohammed was a husband, a leader and many more things.

So he can be ALL of these but God cannot?

"Father, Son and Holy Spirit" are different ways of talking about, experiencing and (inadequately) describing the one God.

There is something that perhaps Muslims in general will not realise.... the Qur'an is unusual compared with ALL other religious texts from all other major religions in one very telling way: about a third of the text is about those who do not follow the religion, cursing them and abusing them. This is not something found in any other religious text to the same extent. It reveals that Islam is insecure and weak about older religions specially.