And the friends of Dorothy are called Munchkins.SAM wrote: The followers of Islam are called Mukmin (the believers).
Has Allah retired his Angels?
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
‘Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions.’ Muhammad Ali Jinnah
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
Who cares if you are fluent or not in Hebrew and Aramaic. The important thing is that one Jewish Angel can kill 185 thousand souls in one night. UnbelievableHombre wrote:you are full of sh...t. Perhaps you forget that I am fluent in Hebrew and can cross-check anything you post in Hebrew.SAM wrote:Isaiah 37:36, And the angel of the LORD went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand; and when men arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.
לו וַיֵּצֵא מַלְאַךְ יְהוָה, וַיַּכֶּה בְּמַחֲנֵה אַשּׁוּר, מֵאָה וּשְׁמֹנִים וַחֲמִשָּׁה, אָלֶף; וַיַּשְׁכִּימוּ בַבֹּקֶר, וְהִנֵּה כֻלָּם פְּגָרִים מֵתִים.
First. Chapter in Hebrew Bible is marked with letters - not numbers. That is your first giveaway. Here is the full text of Chapter 36 & 37 in its original Hebrew & Aramaic languages. Show me where the sentence above shows up in the following chapters?
Spoiler! :

This means that Israel does not need to waste money to buy F-35 fighter jets to kill all Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas, Lebanon and Syria. Just call the God of Israel to send one of His angels to carry out the execution task.


Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion.
Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." (2:120)
Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." (2:120)
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Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
Salaams SAM,SAM wrote: This means that Israel does not need to waste money to buy F-35 fighter jets to kill all Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas, Lebanon and Syria. Just call the God of Israel to send one of His angels to carry out the execution task.![]()
You were right when you quoted Isaiah 37:36 and it is the large number of killing that matters. Translation of the Hebrew words for "dead corpses" appears to be literal, because corpses belong to dead people.
Here it is from Rashi's translation:
36And an angel of the Lord went forth and slew one hundred eighty-five thousand of the camp of Assyria. And they arose in the morning, and behold they were all dead corpses.
לווַיֵּצֵ֣א | מַלְאַ֣ךְ יְהֹוָ֗ה וַיַּכֶּה֙ בְּמַֽחֲנֵ֣ה אַשּׁ֔וּר מֵאָ֛ה וּשְׁמוֹנִ֥ים וַֽחֲמִשָּׁ֖ה אָ֑לֶף וַיַּשְׁכִּ֣ימוּ בַבֹּ֔קֶר וְהִנֵּ֥ה כֻלָּ֖ם פְּגָרִ֥ים מֵתִֽים:/quote]
Source: https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cd ... ter-37.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
My beloved bro Hombre said, "Zionism was a movement founded by Prophet Hertzl."sum wrote:Hello SAM
Please calm down and answer my question. Are the Angels still active and who do you think that they will be helping - Sunni or Shia muslims?
sum
Perhaps, Prophet Hertzl forgot to ask for help from the Lord of Israel to send the Killer Angel to destroy the Ottoman Empire for the sake of Israeli land.
Or you need to wait with Jews who are still waiting for the last Military Messiah to re-activate Killer Angels to kill all Christians, Muslims (Suni and Shia) and other soldiers, as they are still aspiring to dominate the world.

Hopefully I have answered your stupid question ... dr. sum

Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion.
Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." (2:120)
Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." (2:120)
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
Hello SAM
No, you are still avoiding answering my question.
Angels fighting on behalf of muslims are very much part of Islam. If there is only one Islam then it stands to reason that either Sunni muslims are on the wrong path or the Shia are. Therefore it would be of great importance to know which sect the Angels support as that would indicate Allah`s guidance on the matter and so the two sects should know which one is correct by whom the Angels are supporting.
Perhaps Allah and the Angels either could not care less or don`t even exist at all. Do you agree?
sum
No, you are still avoiding answering my question.
Angels fighting on behalf of muslims are very much part of Islam. If there is only one Islam then it stands to reason that either Sunni muslims are on the wrong path or the Shia are. Therefore it would be of great importance to know which sect the Angels support as that would indicate Allah`s guidance on the matter and so the two sects should know which one is correct by whom the Angels are supporting.
Perhaps Allah and the Angels either could not care less or don`t even exist at all. Do you agree?
sum
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
You still have not answered my question. At present who is the false prophet for Sunnis and Shiites to get help from Angles?sum wrote:Hello SAM
No, you are still avoiding answering my question.
sum
Tell me, how many battles did angels join Muslims in war with unbelievers?Angels fighting on behalf of muslims are very much part of Islam.
So you have agreed that the Jewish Angels and Christian Angels actually did not exist at all?Perhaps Allah and the Angels either could not care less or don`t even exist at all. Do you agree?
You often ask stupid questions to get stupid answers. If you do not want to answer my question, I'll put you in the ignorant list again.
Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion.
Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." (2:120)
Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." (2:120)
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
SAM, your contributions here are getting very tiresome. In every topic about Islam you make every attempt to derail the thread and talk about other religions.
Your feeble distraction about Isaiah has been answered in some detail, and you post garbage about fighter jets in response.
And all the while you refuse to discuss the actual topic and insult the originator, repeatedly, instead. You are merely exposing your ignorance and inability to even process anything that might question your precious Islam.
in short, your main purpose here is to show people how Islam affects reason. You are also doing a good job exposing your racism and anti-Semitism.
Your feeble distraction about Isaiah has been answered in some detail, and you post garbage about fighter jets in response.
And all the while you refuse to discuss the actual topic and insult the originator, repeatedly, instead. You are merely exposing your ignorance and inability to even process anything that might question your precious Islam.
in short, your main purpose here is to show people how Islam affects reason. You are also doing a good job exposing your racism and anti-Semitism.
Jesus: "Ask and you will receive." Mohammed: "Take and give me 20%"
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
When it comes to Jewish theology & content of the Tanakh (HB) - Both of you are uninformed and utterly ignorant. Like zombies - copy & paste w/o a clue what you are doing.BaigZaheer wrote:Salaams SAM,
You were right when you quoted Isaiah 37:36 and it is the large number of killing that matters. Translation of the Hebrew words for "dead corpses" appears to be literal, because corpses belong to dead people.
Here it is from Rashi's translation:
36And an angel of the Lord went forth and slew one hundred eighty-five thousand of the camp of Assyria. And they arose in the morning, and behold they were all dead corpses.
לווַיֵּצֵ֣א | מַלְאַ֣ךְ יְהֹוָ֗ה וַיַּכֶּה֙ בְּמַֽחֲנֵ֣ה אַשּׁ֔וּר מֵאָ֛ה וּשְׁמוֹנִ֥ים וַֽחֲמִשָּׁ֖ה אָ֑לֶף וַיַּשְׁכִּ֣ימוּ בַבֹּ֔קֶר וְהִנֵּ֥ה כֻלָּ֖ם פְּגָרִ֥ים מֵתִֽים:/quote]
Source: https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cd ... ter-37.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sentence 36 talks in the context of God - through his angles protects the Jews by vanquishing the Assyrians whom at that time were Jews enemies.
It is the same Asseryinas who destroyed 10 Jewish Tribes and absorbed them into their own ranks.
Many Syrians of today carry the genes of those tribes.
Re: Has Allah retired his Angels?
Hay SAMI, a "prophet" here & a "Prophet there", what's the difference?. Muhammad, Hertzl, Mossa, Humus, Falafel they are all good-sounding names.SAM wrote:My beloved bro Hombre said, "Zionism was a movement founded by Prophet Hertzl."
Perhaps, Prophet Hertzl forgot to ask for help from the Lord of Israel to send the Killer Angel to destroy the Ottoman Empire for the sake of Israeli land.
Or you need to wait with Jews who are still waiting for the last Military Messiah to re-activate Killer Angels to kill all Christians, Muslims (Suni and Shia) and other soldiers, as they are still aspiring to dominate the world.![]()
Hopefully I have answered your stupid question ... dr. sum

Just think for a moment. A 40-year-old illiterate man roams the deserts of Arabia and calls himself "prophet", and 1.6B people sing Haleluyah to him - 1400 years after his death, people still tremble just mention of his name. What type of society are you?

On other hands. Since Muslims also "respect & accept" Jews prophets like Moses, they also should accept Prophet Hertzl as well. Both envisioned and lead the Jews from diaspora back to their ancestral land - promised by God.