Page 1 of 1

"modest fashion"

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:42 pm
by manfred
in many Western countries, such as the US, Canada, Australia and the UK we have a "fashion trend" resulting in fashion shows and "lines" in big stores called "modest fashion".

They invariably are women dressed covered head to toe, with various types of hijab. There are also male versions which really are just a jelaba by any other name.

So Muslim dress code is being pushed in high couture circles....

And it is called "modest" peddling the Muslim idea that anything not following the dress code is "immodest".

It is sold as a "fashion" with an ethical component not merely marketed at Muslim women, but specially at non-Muslim ones.

Another step of Islamisation bought by oil dollars.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nyfw-runway-l ... 20908.html
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1239751/fashion
http://www.asianimage.co.uk/news/159993 ... hion_Week/

This trend is crossing a fine but important line: While I have no problems with Muslim women developing their own idea of style, just as anyone else, it is quite different when other people's rights to dress as they wish are denounced as "immodest"... This is in effect justifying the Muslim rape culture.

Re: "modest fashion"

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:38 pm
by Garudaman
actual men modest-fashion : http://raisingmuslimsons.blogspot.co.id ... awrah.html

Image

https://islamqa.info/en/171584
An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Concerning the ‘awrah for men, there are five opinions; the correct view is that it is the area between the navel and the knee, and the navel and the knee are not part of the ‘awrah.

Re: "modest fashion"

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:56 pm
by manfred
I have some pants like that, but rarely wear them... (good for gardening though, and for boating too, but at my age this is a challenge...)

I have no problems with people wearing whatever they want, but find it offensive to call some choices "modest" as if those people who choose different clothes were "immodest". This is at the root of the problem with some Muslim people arriving in Europe thinking they can freely molest women because they do not wear a hijab.

It says on you link that a man's (or even boy's) knees and belly button (udel) should be covered up, plus anything in between. To be honest, I find neither a man's knees no his belly button in the least bit attractive, more the opposite, really, so I don't know what the fuss is about.

Some people have different ideas of modesty, and cover accordingly more or less... why should such people be called immodest or lude?

Why are early Muslim ideas about that more relevant than others? About 100 years ago, in many parts of you home country, women showed their breast in public, and that was not seen as "immodest", because that was common.

Mohammed did not actually specify what clothing people should wear, but later "scholars" made lists on that, and still do to this day. Why should anyone take any notice of them?

Why would a man's belly button be "private" but his chest not? Why a woman's hair, but not a man's?

Re: "modest fashion"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:13 am
by SAM
manfred wrote:This trend is crossing a fine but important line: While I have no problems with Muslim women developing their own idea of style, just as anyone else, it is quite different when other people's rights to dress as they wish are denounced as "immodest"... This is in effect justifying the Muslim rape culture.
It is a white rape culture and they still practice incest. Britain’s youngest mother. A girl aged 11 has given birth to her 14-year-old brother's baby. :yuk:

Rape Crisis England & Wales headline statistics 2016-17: released by the Ministry of Justice (MoJ).

Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped in England and Wales alone every year; that's roughly 11 rapes (of adults alone) every hour. These figures include assaults by penetration and attempts.

Nearly half a million adults are sexually assaulted in England and Wales each year

1 in 5 women aged 16 - 59 has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16

Only around 15% of those who experience sexual violence choose to report to the police

Approximately 90% of those who are raped know the perpetrator prior to the offence

Re: "modest fashion"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:42 am
by manfred
... and just as in Scandinavia, the increase in rapes is mostly due to Muslims...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=musli ... kwXc34GIBw