SAM wrote:128 countries officially declare that Jerusalem is haram for Israel as the Capital City because they knew that Israel has no land to declare it.Hombre wrote:SAMmy o-Sammy. Where have you been? - chasing 14 year old girls ha? We missed your "intelligent & thoughtful" comments to lighten our life.SAM wrote:Christianity dying, only Islam growing
Hey dude. Jerusalem is Israel's capital city. How about that?.
manfred wrote:King David lived between 1040 and 970, give and take a few years. He made Jerusalem the capital of of his kingdom, and there has been a continuous Jewish presence in that city since that time. That is 3000 years or so, and we have a very detailed history of that city since those days, something extremely rare for other places. So suggest that Jerusalem is anything other than the main city of the Jews is rather silly. Since the days of David that City was the centre for Jewish religion, and for much of the time also of government. However the city was also attacked several times and destroyed, but this has not severed the connection.
Rome was once sacked by a people originating from a Swedish island. So where are the claims that Rome is a Swedish city? These would be about as credible or sensible as suggesting that the city of Jerusalem is the the ancestral home of a people invented by Yasser Arafat in the 1970s.
And there is not merely a historical argument. If other countries can choose their own capital cities, why not Israel? No countries could object if the UK decided to make Old Sodbury, Gloucestershire or Twatt, Orkney the new capital.
Israel determines its own affairs as an independent nation, and Jerusalem is not only part of Israel, it has been the beating heart of the Jewish people for 3000 years.
manfred wrote:No Muslims were "kicked out" from Jerusalem. Jews, on the other hand, were. Several times, whole sale.
And Muslims are not stubborn, then? They just ask infidels to convert, once, and then they go quietly on their way forever more?Nosuperstition wrote:Jews supposedly were a mostly stubborn nation,hence got kicked out several times from several nations.
manfred wrote:I am very stubborn. NS, how should I be punished?
Jews supposedly were a mostly stubborn nation,hence got kicked out several times from several nations.
manfred wrote:Garudaman, if you say that Allah "does not forbid" fighting peaceful non-Muslims, does this mean this is an optional choice, or, perhaps, it depends on the circumstances when to fight them?
manfred wrote:And what about later texts, such as surah 9, which is very clear that Muslims are commanded to fight non-Muslims not because they attack Muslims, but purely because of their beliefs?
manfred wrote:BTW, a happy new year to you!!!
sum wrote:Hello Garudaman
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from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
Can you explain the Koranic meaning of "righteous" and "justly" as it would appear to me to be another way of saying that muslims are to act according to Sharia towards the non-muslims?
sum
Garudaman wrote:sum wrote:Hello Garudaman
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from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
Can you explain the Koranic meaning of "righteous" and "justly" as it would appear to me to be another way of saying that muslims are to act according to Sharia towards the non-muslims?
sum
you right, as God's Command & Sharia Law are the same thing, & here is the mentioned God's Command/Sharia Law :
QS. 4:36. Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful.
QS. 28:77. But seek, through that which Allah has given you, the home of the Hereafter; and [yet], do not forget your share of the world. And do good as Allah has done good to you. And desire not corruption in the land. Indeed, Allah does not like corrupters."
righteous, justly = good
Garudaman wrote:no he wasn't, as that hadith/history is fake.
Garudaman wrote:nope, as according to QS. 4:88-92 jizya is only imposed on those who fight muslims.
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