As Islam is true and save your life and afterlife
However, hell hath no fury like a Muslim scorned, it would appear.ISLAM_rules wrote:As Islam is true and save your life and afterlife, it is good to train people as childs in Qur'an. I think force someone to become Muslim is a biggest love you can show.
sum wrote:Hello ISLAM_rules
A bit more -
Narrated Jabir: The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew)." Muhammad bin Maslama replied, "Do you like me to kill him?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say what I like." The Prophet replied, "I do (i.e. allow you)."
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:271
Muhammad condoned lying in order to have a critic of him assassinated. Muhammad was a liar and condoned lying.
The Indonesians (under their Shaliendra and Majapahit dynasties) resisted the Muslims, albeit briefly in the 15th century, only to lapse back to a defensive position and submit to the Muslims Jihadis by the 16th century.
Before their forced conversion, the Indonesians themselves were Buddhists and Hindu by faith till the 15th century under their kingdoms of Sri Vijaya (Malaysia and Aceh), Majapahit and Shailendra (Indonesian archipelago). These kingdoms were ardent rivals and were at war with each other and with their northern neighbor – the kingdom of Siam (Thailand) when the Muslim first appeared on the scene.
Before the advent of Islam, Sri Vijaya and Majapahit were powerful empires from the 13th upto the 15th centuries. Both the Sri Vijaya and Majapahit kings followed an eclectic faith made up of Hinduism and Buddhism. These kingdoms also had their illustrious counterparts in Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia and Burma (Myanmar). They built magnificent cities. The ruins of Angkor are the most dramatic surviving evidences of their glory. Similar cities dotted Malaysia, and Indonesia in the 12 to the 15th centuries. Their decline began with the coming of Arab dhows (vessels) who carried not just merchandise but also the sword of Islam. The king who first embraced Islam was named Parmeswara and he became a victim of circumstances when he was tricked into becoming a Muslim.
It was the Arab merchant-Jihadis who deceived the last Sri Vijaya king, Parameswara (of today’s Malaysia) to marry a Muslim damsel and converted him to Islam by promising him help in his fight against his rivals from Thailand. From 1402 onwards Parmeswara increasingly became dependent on the Arabs to stave off attempts from the Thais and the territorial ambitions of his other rival Majapahit of Indonesia. The Arab merchant-soldiers whose position became increasingly stronger at Parmeswara’s court offered to send in more forces to fight alongside him, if he converted to Islam. Initially Parameswara scornfully refused this offer. But as the struggle with Thailand and Majapahit wore on, his position became more precarious. At this juncture the Arab merchants gifted him a princess of Pasai who was a mix breed descendants from an Arab and Indonesian.
manfred wrote:LOL the Sufi traders myth? Honestly, SAM, look at the actual history. If Islam did not win by bloodshed, then it was by sneaky deception.Spoiler! :
The history of the Malay Archipelago during the last 600 years furnishes us with one of the most interesting chapters in the story of the spread of Islam by missionary efforts.
During the whole of this period we find evidences of a continuous activity on the part of the Muslim missionaries, in one or other at least of the East India islands.
In every instance, in the beginning, their work had to be carried on without any patronage or assistance from the rulers of the country,
but solely by the force of persuasion, and in many cases in the face of severe opposition, especially on the part of the Spaniards.
But in spite of all difficulties, and with varying success, they have prosecuted their efforts with untiring energy, perfecting their work (more especially in the present day) wherever it has been partial or insufficient.
Like it or not it is your mother's native country, Batak, Indonesia.manfred wrote:LOL "rearranged" by a Muslim...., more than 100 years ago...
Get real SAM.
That was written when people thought they can actually believe Muslims when they speak of their own history.
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