I find that his examples are a few. Also free speech doesn't really exist under islam, so i don't see it as people really speaking up against Islam.

Well , raised a Hindu and as someone was taught the same values as that of a pagan Roman i.e that all religions lead to God,I never had enmity with either Muslims/Islam.Even when I was between 19 and 22 years of age,I used to bow down to a Dargah(the tomb of a muslim saint) enroute to my college.That was in accordance with the Hindu memes.Now only after I came to know about real theological propositions of Islam at FFI,did I begin to contemplate on the validity of their beliefs.pr126 wrote:Quran 005:082
Yusufali Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
taqiyya
He never mentioned what Muhammad did to the Jews in Arabia. It is all in the hadits, and sirat rasool.
The comments are disabled on his video. With good reason.
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtop ... 46#p224946" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;pr126 wrote:Quran 005:082
Yusufali Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
taqiyya
He never mentioned what Muhammad did to the Jews in Arabia. It is all in the hadits, and sirat rasool.
The comments are disabled on his video. With good reason.
So essentially these people believe themselves to be more virtuous than the polytheists and the Jews.LCD wrote:Yes. but they also don't necessarily teach that good action is the way, they suggest it, but infact with multiple reincarnation attempts for each one simply gets infinite chances to get it right, and Christianity says you get one, so Christians are supposed to act good.
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtop ... rs#p213558" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I wrote:One of the prophets of old Testament is said to have cursed children to be devoured by bears as they teased him.That spirit of getting killed those that oppose you even in verbal form seems to be something in line with what Mohammed did.
That various factions vying with one another for supremacy can be compared to present day Sunnis and Shias trying to wrest control of the state in West Asia by the use of force.However in Roman times,riots were common in urban areas and Christians who mostly belonged to the low social orders would have actively participated in riots.manfred wrote:Christians rioted in ancient Rome? Really? Because they were drunk???
The only thing remotely like that may be after Constantine, when various factions tried to the the ruler to make them suppress other factions, usually with little effect, as by then the use of councils to solve disputes had already become the norm.
Other edicts followed when Christian uprisings took place in the eastern parts of the empire where Christianity was strongest.
The "uprisings" were little more than demonstrations, at most minor skirmishes, as we would say today. Christians had no national identity like the Jews, no military leaders, no weapons, no army. They served as a scapegoat for a succession of emperors, and resistance on the whole was minimal because it was futile.Suspicious of the loyalty of Christians to the Roman state, Diocletian started persecuting them. He demanded that all Christian soldiers resign from the Roman army. He forbade gatherings for Christian worship and ordered the destruction of churches and sacred writings. Christian members of the government were tortured and executed.
Other edicts followed when Christian uprisings took place in the eastern parts of the empire where Christianity was strongest. Bishops and priests were arrested, tortured, and martyred. In 304, Rome decreed that all Christians sacrifice to the pagan gods or face death.
LCD wrote:Yes. but they also don't necessarily teach that good action is the way, they suggest it, but infact with multiple reincarnation attempts for each one simply gets infinite chances to get it right, and Christianity says you get one, so Christians are supposed to act good.
No. I didn't say that, and you're stretching my words. Thanks again for acting like a muslim. Okay, show me where it says Christians are better than anyone. Sorry, ya can'tSo essentially these people believe themselves to be more virtuous than the polytheists and the Jews.
Nope. You can't. i know the exact passage, and jerks like yourself have been mistranslating it for years. it's a gang of 24 thugs. Adults. Not children. They are on the damascus road, and they are planning to kill him. He doesn't do a thing. A Bear rips them apart and they aren't children. funny now how you have entered this conversation only to bash the christians, again. thanks. noticed you haven't bashed any jews but that basically because you're an athiest coward who basically thinks islam and christianity are the same and you're afraid of the jews beacause you just don't read enough to remotely hold an intelligent conversation.I wrote:One of the prophets of old Testament is said to have cursed children to be devoured by bears as they teased him.That spirit of getting killed those that oppose you even in verbal form seems to be something in line with what Mohammed did.
I have seen in Hollywood films in which wives speak of their pious or virtuous or good husbands as God fearing.In Islam and Christianity due to the concepts of One life with one everlasting Heaven and one everlasting Hell,the period for which this God fearing enforced goodness should exist is for all of life and by I am not stretching anything by any stretch of imagination.glitch wrote:LCD wrote:Yes. but they also don't necessarily teach that good action is the way, they suggest it, but infact with multiple reincarnation attempts for each one simply gets infinite chances to get it right, and Christianity says you get one, so Christians are supposed to act good.No. I didn't say that, and you're stretching my words. Thanks again for acting like a muslim. Okay, show me where it says Christians are better than anyone. Sorry, ya can'tSo essentially these people believe themselves to be more virtuous than the polytheists and the Jews.
Game over. I can clearly point out however in the koran where it says Muslims are the best.
Nope. You can't. i know the exact passage, and jerks like yourself have been mistranslating it for years. it's a gang of 24 thugs. Adults. Not children. They are on the damascus road, and they are planning to kill him. He doesn't do a thing. A Bear rips them apart and they aren't children. funny now how you have entered this conversation only to bash the christians, again. thanks. noticed you haven't bashed any jews but that basically because you're an athiest coward who basically thinks islam and christianity are the same and you're afraid of the jews beacause you just don't read enough to remotely hold an intelligent conversation.I wrote:One of the prophets of old Testament is said to have cursed children to be devoured by bears as they teased him.That spirit of getting killed those that oppose you even in verbal form seems to be something in line with what Mohammed did.
Thanks for playing though. Coward.
I have seen in Hollywood films in which wives speak of their pious or virtuous or good husbands as God fearing.
Nosuperstition wrote:I have seen in Hollywood films in which wives speak of their pious or virtuous or good husbands as God fearing.In Islam and Christianity due to the concepts of One life with one everlasting Heaven and one everlasting Hell,the period for which this God fearing enforced goodness should exist is for all of life and by I am not stretching anything by any stretch of imagination.glitch wrote:LCD wrote:Yes. but they also don't necessarily teach that good action is the way, they suggest it, but infact with multiple reincarnation attempts for each one simply gets infinite chances to get it right, and Christianity says you get one, so Christians are supposed to act good.No. I didn't say that, and you're stretching my words. Thanks again for acting like a muslim. Okay, show me where it says Christians are better than anyone. Sorry, ya can'tSo essentially these people believe themselves to be more virtuous than the polytheists and the Jews.
Game over. I can clearly point out however in the koran where it says Muslims are the best.
Nope. You can't. i know the exact passage, and jerks like yourself have been mistranslating it for years. it's a gang of 24 thugs. Adults. Not children. They are on the damascus road, and they are planning to kill him. He doesn't do a thing. A Bear rips them apart and they aren't children. funny now how you have entered this conversation only to bash the christians, again. thanks. noticed you haven't bashed any jews but that basically because you're an athiest coward who basically thinks islam and christianity are the same and you're afraid of the jews beacause you just don't read enough to remotely hold an intelligent conversation.I wrote:One of the prophets of old Testament is said to have cursed children to be devoured by bears as they teased him.That spirit of getting killed those that oppose you even in verbal form seems to be something in line with what Mohammed did.
Thanks for playing though. Coward.![]()
And word 'naar' in Hebrew is used for both lads and 24 year old young men according to one site on the net.Now if Abraham had to wait until some 100+ years to conceive in those time periods i.e if he were to become sexually mature at 100+ years of age(living for 100s of years by many of the mythical characters of the O.T is seen as a sign of piety),24 years does seem to be pretty young age if one goes by those texts,even if they are assumed to be 24.
Now And those people have not planned to kill him.Show me where it says so,instead of making up excuses and stories.They just make a mockery of him calling him 'bald head'.That by no means is sufficient enough to cause them to be devoured by bears.So in effect silencing of critics is done even if it is to be done with cursing your opponents with death with the power of God.Same is the case in Islam.
1. your point? in hollywood films, wives talk of husbands as god fearing? did you have a secondary sentence to that? So the hell what? that it happened in a movie and you can't even explain the rest? that they think, in a movie something, say it, but then like a muslim you can't even make a point? sorry, fragments don't cut it NoExplanation.I have seen in Hollywood films in which wives speak of their pious or virtuous or good husbands as God fearing.In Islam and Christianity due to the concepts of One life with one everlasting Heaven and one everlasting Hell,the period for which this God fearing enforced goodness should exist is for all of life and by I am not stretching anything by any stretch of imagination.![]()
Half of 42 is 21 not 24. And no, that is not believable.And it is believable to believe that 2 bears can devour many 24 year adults to satiate their dinosaur appetites.
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/a ... rown-bear/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;a brown bear may eat as much as 90 pounds (40 kilograms) of food each day, and it may weigh twice as much before hibernation as it will in spring
Nothing is sinking in. I spent some time explaining the passage to you, in detail. Obviously you have no interest in learning anything about the text, only to use it to make stupid claims.And that is not the only instance when children get victimised in the O.T when God of Abraham is offended/when his people/prophets are offended.
if its not the only instance then show it. Show them. Don't act like a typical muslim and say there's lots of examples and provide none. Put your money wher your mouth is you coward? if the God of the OT is so mean to children, then show it.Nosuperstition wrote:And it is believable to believe that 2 bears can devour many 24 year adults to satiate their dinosaur appetites.
And that is not the only instance when children get victimised in the O.T when God of Abraham is offended/when his people/prophets are offended.
You missed the ending of that movie. Those bears which you mention, ended up devouring hamburgers in that McDonald fastfood on Hollywood Blvd. Then, to show they treat all religion equally, they went to Humus/Fallafel & Sheesh kabab places and devourd them too.Nosuperstition wrote:I have seen in Hollywood films in which wives speak of their pious or virtuous or good husbands as God fearing.In Islam and Christianity due to the concepts of One life with one everlasting Heaven and one everlasting Hell,the period for which this God fearing enforced goodness should exist is for all of life and by I am not stretching anything by any stretch of imagination.![]()
And word 'naar' in Hebrew is used for both lads and 24 year old young men according to one site on the net.Now if Abraham had to wait until some 100+ years to conceive in those time periods i.e if he were to become sexually mature at 100+ years of age(living for 100s of years by many of the mythical characters of the O.T is seen as a sign of piety),24 years does seem to be pretty young age if one goes by those texts,even if they are assumed to be 24.
Now And those people have not planned to kill him.Show me where it says so,instead of making up excuses and stories.They just make a mockery of him calling him 'bald head'.That by no means is sufficient enough to cause them to be devoured by bears.So in effect silencing of critics is done even if it is to be done with cursing your opponents with death with the power of God.Same is the case in Islam.