Deuteronomy 18 and prophethood

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A New Prophet like Moses

15 “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— 16 just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ 17 And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

When did Allah personally command Muhammad to speak particular words? Does the above verse say that an angel will tell the prophet what to say? Nope, it has to be Allah himself. People who merely memorize what an angel says are not prophets, they're angel helpers, which is basically nothing. If he was a prophet the angel wouldn't have been required. Why involve him at all? What Jewish prophets depended on angels for their revelations from God? The whole idea of being a prophet is that they got revelations directly from God. If you don't do that, you ain't a prophet, end of story.

Incidentally, in regard to this verse being a prediction of Muhammad, why did Allah make the Jews of Exodus wait until 600 AD before he sent the predicted prophet? What good did that do them? Let's reword the supposed prophecy and see how much sense it makes. I'm simply putting it in clearer terms but it means the exact same thing; "The Lord God will raise up a prophet from among your brothers a few thousand years from now, it is to him you should listen, if you live that long which is absolutely not going to happen. In other words, you're on your own after Moses dies, sorry." Oh yeah, that makes so much sense. I can see why millions of Muslims believe that refers to Muhammad.

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Where have all the Muslims gone, long time passing, when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn? Sung to the tune of Where Have All the Flowers Gone.

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Where have all the Muslims gone, long time passing, when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn? Sung to the tune of Where Have All the Flowers Gone.

Simple:

They cannot debate us, and their bitch boy allah is so stupid that he cannot help them.

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I hear crickets chirping. Aren't Muslims going to defend Allah and Muhammad's honor? Isn't that their appointed job on earth? If not then why all the fuss over the cartoons etc? Oh I get it. It's easier to kill a person who raises questions that they can't answer than to try to talk their way out of it. That's the real reason for the killing of anyone who questions Islam, if they are dumb enough to let Muslims have access to them. Unbeliever; "Why is Allah so pagan after 600 AD?" Muslim; "I keel you!"

[Eagle]

A New Prophet like Moses

15 “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— 16 just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ 17 And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

When did Allah personally command Muhammad to speak particular words? Does the above verse say that an angel will tell the prophet what to say? Nope, it has to be Allah himself. People who merely memorize what an angel says are not prophets, they're angel helpers, which is basically nothing. If he was a prophet the angel wouldn't have been required. Why involve him at all? What Jewish prophets depended on angels for their revelations from God? The whole idea of being a prophet is that they got revelations directly from God. If you don't do that, you ain't a prophet, end of story.

Incidentally, in regard to this verse being a prediction of Muhammad, why did Allah make the Jews of Exodus wait until 600 AD before he sent the predicted prophet? What good did that do them? Let's reword the supposed prophecy and see how much sense it makes. I'm simply putting it in clearer terms but it means the exact same thing; "The Lord God will raise up a prophet from among your brothers a few thousand years from now, it is to him you should listen, if you live that long which is absolutely not going to happen. In other words, you're on your own after Moses dies, sorry." Oh yeah, that makes so much sense. I can see why millions of Muslims believe that refers to Muhammad.

So who is the prophecy speaking of