I declare Islam to be false

iffo · Post by **iffo** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:02 pm

After lot of studying and research I have come to the conclusion at the moment that Islam is false. In fact I admit all the religions are men made bogus stories and are false.

I have nothing against most of my muslims brothers and sisters who have very little knowledge about their religion and Islamic history and as a human beings we all are programmed to resist anything said against what we and our forefathers always believed in.

pr126 · Post by **pr126** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:06 pm

Declare this in your mosque after the juma prayer. loud and clear.
Then come back and report.

iffo · Post by **iffo** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:29 pm

pr126 wrote:Declare this in your mosque after the juma prayer. loud and clear.
Then come back and report.

Now why would I do that, I don't believe in suicide.

sum · Post by **sum** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:56 pm

Hello iffo

If what you say is true then I am most impressed by your courage in giving public acceptance that Islam is false and so are nolonger a muslim. I give you full credit for this and sincerely hope that you find spiritual guidance that is acceptable to you. You are a brave man.

Good luck.

sum

Sten · Post by **Sten** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:05 am

Wow Iffo. If this is true then you are quite an amazing and brave person. Respect to you brother. I hope you are able to find fulfillment and happiness of your own making, instead of looking for it in the words of someone long-dead. Good luck man.

piscohot · Post by **piscohot** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:13 am

Sten wrote:Wow Iffo. If this is true then you are quite an amazing and brave person. Respect to you brother. I hope you are able to find fulfillment and happiness of your own making, instead of looking for it in the words of someone long-dead. Good luck man.

you might be speaking too soon, sten.

pr126 · Post by **pr126** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:03 am

I too, remain skeptical. If I remember, iffo has pulled this stunt once before.
So no, I don't believe it.

Sten · Post by **Sten** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:41 am

Why would he lie? There's nothing to be gained from it. Most likely all this research he's been doing has brought him to the conclusion that it's all a bunch of BS. I have a lot of respect for someone who can come out and admit that he was wrong, and what he believed in was wrong.

pr126 · Post by **pr126** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:51 am

Sten wrote:Why would he lie? There's nothing to be gained from it. Most likely all this research he's been doing has brought him to the conclusion that it's all a bunch of BS. I have a lot of respect for someone who can come out and admit that he was wrong, and what he believed in was wrong.

We'll see. But don't you think it is all too sudden to be credible? That's not how apostasy happens.
(Unless naivety and wishful thinking is part of your assessment.)

Why would he lie?

Don't know. Maybe it's a Muslim thing?
OK, OK. Sorry. I know. Muslims never lie.

There's nothing to be gained from it

Yes, there is. Making a fool of the gullible and having a good laugh at their expense.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:24 pm

It is common for some Muslim declared Islam "to be" false.... especially for those seeking out the truth. I' ve been through this kind of situation..

Iffo's has not declared his apostasy and not caused others to go astray,

Ozes · Post by **Ozes** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:07 pm

I wish the only problem with Islam were its inconsistencies, its logical fallacies and the scientific flaws. If those three would represent all what is to be said negatively about Islam's nature, i would not have one problem with Islam.

frankie · Post by **frankie** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:56 pm

SAM wrote:It is common for some Muslim declared Islam "to be" false.... especially for those seeking out the truth. I' ve been through this kind of situation..

Iffo's has not declared his apostasy and not caused others to go astray,

Sam:
What convinced you that Islam is true?

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:44 pm

frankie wrote:
SAM wrote:It is common for some Muslim declared Islam "to be" false.... especially for those seeking out the truth. I' ve been through this kind of situation..

Iffo's has not declared his apostasy and not caused others to go astray,

Sam:
What convinced you that Islam is true?

To know the truth of Islam.... get rid of unwanted thoughts..what I mean erased all knowledge of Islam doctrine in our mind or life's

pr126 · Post by **pr126** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:51 pm

SAM wrote:

To know the truth of Islam.... get rid of unwanted thoughts..what I mean erased all knowledge of Islam doctrine in our mind or life's

What you mean is get rid of your brain. It's not needed.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:15 pm

pr126 wrote:SAM wrote:
To know the truth of Islam.... get rid of unwanted thoughts..what I mean erased all knowledge of Islam doctrine in our mind or life's
What you mean is get rid of your brain. It's not needed.

"ground" zero...

iffo · Post by **iffo** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:34 am

pr126 wrote:I too, remain skeptical. If I remember, iffo has pulled this stunt once before.
So no, I don't believe it.

I never pulled a stunt before as I always defended Islam here. I have no possible motive to lie about such a serious matter.

Ram · Post by **Ram** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:53 am

iffo wrote:
pr126 wrote:I too, remain skeptical. If I remember, iffo has pulled this stunt once before.
So no, I don't believe it.
I never pulled a stunt before as I always defended Islam here. I have no possible motive to lie about such a serious matter.

iffo declaring Islam to be false? I am surprised.

Islam is false is not our concern. Our concern is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are intolerant because of Islam. Christianity is false too, but overwhelming majority of Christians are tolerant. I was born in Shikarpur, Pakistan, a majority Muslim country - I am not safe in the land of my forefathers. But I am safe in Canada, a Christian majority country, and accepted as an equal citizen.

Muslims live as equal citizens in Canada, a Christian country, but a Canadian Christian will not be tolerated in any Muslim country.

Ram · Post by **Ram** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:53 am

iffo wrote:
pr126 wrote:I too, remain skeptical. If I remember, iffo has pulled this stunt once before.
So no, I don't believe it.
I never pulled a stunt before as I always defended Islam here. I have no possible motive to lie about such a serious matter.

iffo declaring Islam to be false? I am surprised.

Islam is false is not our concern. Our concern is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are intolerant because of Islam. Christianity is false too, but overwhelming majority of Christians are tolerant. I was born in Shikarpur, Pakistan, a majority Muslim country - I am not safe in the land of my forefathers. But I am safe in Canada, a Christian majority country, and accepted as an equal citizen.

Muslims live as equal citizens in Canada, a Christian country, but a Canadian Christian will not be tolerated in any Muslim country.

Ram · Post by **Ram** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:53 am

iffo wrote:
pr126 wrote:I too, remain skeptical. If I remember, iffo has pulled this stunt once before.
So no, I don't believe it.
I never pulled a stunt before as I always defended Islam here. I have no possible motive to lie about such a serious matter.

iffo declaring Islam to be false? I am surprised.

Islam is false is not our concern. Our concern is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are intolerant because of Islam. Christianity is false too, but overwhelming majority of Christians are tolerant. I was born in Shikarpur, Pakistan, a majority Muslim country - I am not safe in the land of my forefathers. But I am safe in Canada, a Christian majority country, and accepted as an equal citizen.

Muslims live as equal citizens in Canada, a Christian country, but a Canadian Christian will not be tolerated in any Muslim country.

MesMorial · Post by **MesMorial** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:55 am

iffo wrote:After lot of studying and research I have come to the conclusion at the moment that Islam is false. In fact I admit all the religions are men made bogus stories and are false.

I have nothing against most of my muslims brothers and sisters who have very little knowledge about their religion and Islamic history and as a human beings we all are programmed to resist anything said against what we and our forefathers always believed in.

Hello iffo;

Congratulations. Is that two in two days?

Cheers.

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