sum wrote:Hello BaigZaheer
Will you be answering my question?
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sum wrote:Hello BaigZaheer
Will you be answering my question?
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sum wrote:Hello BaigZaheer
I will ask you yet again. What source(s) do you regard as reliable for information regarding Muhammad apart from the Koran?
If you do not answer I can only conclude that you have no reliable source. Is this true?
How do you obtain context for your understanding of the Koran`s "revelations"?
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sum wrote:Hello BaigZaheer
Your quote -
I have already told you. You need to go to libraries in Mecca, Medinah, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, India and Pakistan. You will not find them online.
Which of these libraries have you been to?
Your quote -
The term Qu'raan only is really ridiculous and absurd. It was coined by Ahlal-Hadith for those Muslims who reject and discard Hadith. Before the arrival of the tale-collectors from Central Asia, all Muslims were "Qur'aan only" Muslims and followed no books.
All this time you have lead us all to believe that you are a Koran-only muslim as you say that you do not accept the ahadith but I presume that you accept the Sira and what is left of the Sunna plus what you have read in the libraries that you outlined. Is this so?
You claim that muslims followed no books before the tale-tellers arrived from Central Asia - they would be following oral traditions emanating from the time of Muhammad and which later were put into book form just like the Koran.
Have any non-muslims been to these libraries that you outline? Are the contents of these libraries kept for viewing by muslims only and non-muslims denied access?
Do you ever quote, with references, from the sources in these libraries regarding Muhammad?
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sum wrote:Hello BaigZaheer
You still have not told me what references to Muhammad you regard as reliable apart from the Koran. Why is that?
Your list of the various libraries is inapplicable because you have said that all references to Muhammad were made decades/centuries after his death.
Do you still regard what these "libraries" hold about Muhammad to be accurate and reliable about Muhammad and, if so, why?
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Centaur wrote:why are Muslims so embarrassed of their own prophet , his doings and Islamic history? At least, this would have made some sense if Quran it self was a book of context and had some context within it , but unfortunately it is not.You have to look somewhere else(mainly hadith) to know the context of the verse that seems to appear from nowhere and quite random. if there is one word to describe Quran that would be the word Random as quran jump from one topic to other abruptly.
speaking of Quran it self, which is the oldest manuscript of Quran if there any or the existing ones that match each other? The simple answer is none.
Muslims are basically asking the world to take the words of of 7th century Arab with dubious moral standards, that lacks any context or whatsoever as the whole mighty Gods word without asking any questions ? This is beyond stupidity to say the least, and therefore no sane man would buy that position.
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