I think you will be writing next, "Jesus was a miserable bastard!" Please don't troll in here, Dunce!Skenderbeg wrote:Who really care's what the crap Quran says ? its all Mohammeds words and his criminal gang and nothing more..
Mohammed was a sick bastard who enjoyed playing prophet, it was good for him, it got him. slaves, robbing people. killing people. moleseting little girls, fkign slave females. also son's wife, and we care what his crap Quran says ?
Muslims make no sense they sayJesus was not divine but was like adam.....well not really he was nothing like Adam..
for one Adam was created from dust and had no mother died and was buried in the mud.......Jesus on the other hand had a mother unlike Adam, and unlike Adam Jesus was not buried but taken up alive to heaven to be with Allah himself, according to the Quran, so where is Jesus and Adam the same ? Mohammed just made things up and had no idea what the hell he was saying other then to confuse himself and his followers, I don't think Mohammed remembered what he said from one day to the other, much less from year to year.....the Quran was written after his death, his followers put whatever they wanted in their book, the Quran in my opinion is a book put together by Mohammed's criminal gang for personal power..and its not hard to see why they began killing each other as soon as he died, if they really believed he was a real prophet they wouldn't have slaughtered each other right after his death, they were all greedy dirt bags criminal gangsters who followed their Godfather in crime Mohammed
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Rhymes well and also suits him well.AhmedBahgat wrote:Yes he is. He is also called Chicken LieGhalibkhastahaal wrote:I thought you were kidding, when you wrote Apple Pie aka Chicken Pie. I searched on Google and found one Apple Pie on various forums.AhmedBahgat wrote:Apple Pie aka Chicken Pie.
Is this the poster, who thinks it is Jesus in 86:7, who was ejaculated "from between the loins and the ribs"? I read his stupid post here:
http://www.christianforums.net/f23/jesu ... oran-16836" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is that the poster, you were referring to?
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Jesus is in Heaven according to your crap Quran alive well and happy and will return unlike your Mohammed who is dead and buried like a dog in a ugly dirty grave in the desert. the real trolling was Mohammed twisting the story of Jesus for his benifit of personnel power and has idiots like you to follow his vile evil brutal cult to helll...Ghalibkhastahaal wrote:I think you will be writing next, "Jesus was a miserable bastard!" Please don't troll in here, Dunce!Skenderbeg wrote:Who really care's what the crap Quran says ? its all Mohammeds words and his criminal gang and nothing more..
Mohammed was a sick bastard who enjoyed playing prophet, it was good for him, it got him. slaves, robbing people. killing people. moleseting little girls, fkign slave females. also son's wife, and we care what his crap Quran says ?
Muslims make no sense they sayJesus was not divine but was like adam.....well not really he was nothing like Adam..
for one Adam was created from dust and had no mother died and was buried in the mud.......Jesus on the other hand had a mother unlike Adam, and unlike Adam Jesus was not buried but taken up alive to heaven to be with Allah himself, according to the Quran, so where is Jesus and Adam the same ? Mohammed just made things up and had no idea what the hell he was saying other then to confuse himself and his followers, I don't think Mohammed remembered what he said from one day to the other, much less from year to year.....the Quran was written after his death, his followers put whatever they wanted in their book, the Quran in my opinion is a book put together by Mohammed's criminal gang for personal power..and its not hard to see why they began killing each other as soon as he died, if they really believed he was a real prophet they wouldn't have slaughtered each other right after his death, they were all greedy dirt bags criminal gangsters who followed their Godfather in crime Mohammed

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Jesus remains buried in some unmarked grave in Israel and he is dust and bones.Skenderbeg wrote: Jesus is in Heaven according to your crap Quran alive well and happy and will return unlike your Mohammed who is dead and buried like a dog in a ugly dirty grave in the desert. the real trolling was Mohammed twisting the story of Jesus for his benifit of personnel power and has idiots like you to follow his vile evil brutal cult to helll...
I suggest you let him rip.
Only the Church benefited and minted money using the hoax of Jesus being killed and resurrected. He will be resurrected only on the Last Day along with all others.
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Generally speaking AB always refers to modern Arabic, as most translators do, and so may miss important and crucial meanings,AhmedBahgat wrote:Yes he is. He is also called Chicken LieGhalibkhastahaal wrote:I thought you were kidding, when you wrote Apple Pie aka Chicken Pie. I searched on Google and found one Apple Pie on various forums. Is this the poster, who thinks it is Jesus in 86:7, who was ejaculated "from between the loins and the ribs"? I read his stupid post here:
http://www.christianforums.net/f23/jesu ... oran-16836" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is that the poster, you were referring to?
stemming out from the differences found not only with the Classical Arabic, but with the peculiar dialect of its original recordings.
This can't be done for a sacred text such as the Torah, the Gospels or the Koran, if to be faithful to the ORIGINAL meanings duly
intended. Otherwise, translators (such as AB, or the even the Latin Vulgate) are into much conjectures and factual, plain, errors!
The strength of Apple Pie is that he's relying on the sole lexicon surveying the peculiar former dialect in which the genuine Koran was
first assembled: Edward William Lane's Lexicon! To attack it with modern Arabic (as AB does) is a loosing hand from the beginning.
Thus AP's references are the strongest there is. Let's see what Lane said about modern Arabic, motivating his incomparable Lexicon:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume one, pp. vii – viii; xxii - xxiii
In short: if someone really wants to refute AP's then he's bound to use Lane's Lexicon to stand the basic criterias of linguistic scholars.Every language without a written literature tends to decay more than to development by reason of foreign influences; and the history of the Arabic exhibits an instance of decay remarkably rapid, and extraordinary in degree. An immediate consequence of the foreign conquests achieved by the Arabs under Mohammad’s first four successors was an extensive corruption of their language.
For the nations that they subdued were naturally obliged to adopt in a great measure the speech of the conquerors, a speech which few persons have ever acquired in such a degree as to be secure from the commission of frequent errors in grammar without learning it from infancy….
The classical language they called, by reason of its incomparable excellence, “el-loghah,” or “the language:” and the line between this and the post-classical was easily drawn, on account of the almost sudden commencement, and rapid progress, of the corruption. …
I often have found in my knowledge of modern Arabic a solution of a difficulty; but without great caution, such knowledge would frequently have misled me, in consequence of the changes which have taken place in the applications of many words since the classical age.
Let us now have a look on the major part of surah 86
--By the heaven and the Morning Star
--Ah, what will tell thee what the Morning Star is!
--The piercing Star!
--No human soul but hath a guardian over it.
--So let man consider from what he is created.
--He is created from a gushing fluid
--That issued from between the loins and ribs.
--Lo! He verily is Able to return him (unto life)
--On the day when hidden thoughts shall be searched out.
--Then will he have no might nor any helper.
--By the heaven which giveth the returning rain,
--And the earth which splitteth (with the growth of trees and plants)
--Lo! this is a conclusive word, It is no pleasantry.
The surah, although allegorical, is a CLEAR reference to the Southern Cross Constellation as the 'Morning Star',
transposed in the earthly context of Jesus' death on the cross (the piercing star being the side little bright one)


The surah clearly states that mankind was determined by Jesus' death (the gushing fluid issue between his loins and ribs).
It then talks about his Resurrection, the Judgment day, where all ''thoughts shall be searched out'' by Allah's Word: Isa !
Authority has the same etymological root as authenticity.
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Thanks, indeed.Ghalibkhastahaal wrote:I wish to comment on above. That is incorrect and you can't do that. In order to understand 48:24, one must read all the verses 48:18-27 and the context becomes clear. There is nothing wrong in using the term, "in the midst" or "in the valleys" or "in the tummy" or "in the belt" or "in the gorges", etc.The Cat wrote: So I've translated bibatna makkata with: ''in the midst of swindles''.
Batn means tummy, belly, gorge, etc in Arabic. Bi added to Batn will give the word Bi-batn, which means in the belly or the valley, etc. Mecca has lots of hills and valleys. Please let me try to make it easy using English. When Bi-batn is added to a person or place, an "i" or an "e" is used to connect with the next word, then Bibatni-Makka or Bibatne-Makka would mean in the valley of Makka.
The words in Arabic for Destruction and Swindles, are Tadmeer and fa'amliyat, respectively. Since the name Makka comes within the verse and the verse continues, we read Makkatah and had the name Makka come at the end of the verse, it would still have been written as Makkatah but would be recited or read out as Makkah.
Hope this helped.
Here is a free-mind forum page discussing over the topic of makkata.
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?a ... =9597437.0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If makkata is a locative proper noun or not is a subsidiary matter to me, of which I'm still unsure.
Here's an Edward Lane's page on this: http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/V ... 000127.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For the moment, it seems inextricable... and depends much on the context of 48.24, as you've said.The mother of the towns; the metropolis: particularly Mekkeh;
because asserted to be in the middle of the earth; or because it is the Kibleh of all men,
and thither they repair; or because it is the greatest of towns in dignity.
The cemetery, or place of graves.
every plain, or explicit, verse of the Kur-an, of those which relate to laws and statutes and obligatory ordinances.
Religion; one course, which people follow, in religion.
A generation of men; or people of one time: pl. as in the saying, .. Generations of men have passed away. The creatures of God.
One who follows the true religion, holding, or doing, what is different from, or contrary to, all other religions: thus applied to Abraham.
The source, origin, foundation, or basis, of a thing, or of anything;
Anything to which other things are collected together, or adjoined: the place of collection... of a thing;
Convenient, or suitable: both signify an affair, or a case, that is manifest, clear, or plain, not exceeding the due bounds or limits.
Kur-an is called the guide of the Muslim, because it is an exemplar. A road, or way: or a manifest road, or way.
The direction of the Kibleh. -A tract, quarter, or region, of land, or of the earth.
But... What I'm SURE OF though is that nowadays Mecca can't be the place of the Koranic pilgrimage!
I am actually to finish a thread in our Resource Center thoroughly dealing with this topic:
MECCA -Myth vs Reality: In Search of 'Mecca'
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Almost all translators keep close to the Arabic of Quran. That is why, many add notes within brackets and some add short commentaries. Earlier, I did one example to show you in order to make the message clear, when we discussed the likeness of Jesus with Adam in the sight of Allah and I had translated in contemporary English, which the translators do not do. Anyone, who knows Arabic well, is familiar with the proverbs, idioms and metaphors, etc., can easily understand the message and the context.The Cat wrote: Generally speaking AB always refers to modern Arabic, as most translators do, and so may miss important and crucial meanings,
stemming out from the differences found not only with the Classical Arabic, but with the peculiar dialect of its original recordings.
This can't be done for a sacred text such as the Torah, the Gospels or the Koran, if to be faithful to the ORIGINAL meanings duly
intended. Otherwise, translators (such as AB, or the even the Latin Vulgate) are into much conjectures and factual, plain, errors!
I will give you one more example: "Afallaho anka" is mostly translated literally as "Allah forgive you" but it does not really mean that although the translation is correct. It also means "Allah save you or Allah keep you safe." I am sure AB knows that.
Confusions arose from the Latin Vulgate and the Greek Septuagint and we have the monstrosity of the triune God and Jesus was turned into God.
No. That is where AP is wrong. He is just using Lane's work as a dictionary. And by using words from the dictionary, one cannot write passages or explain some.The Cat wrote:The strength of Apple Pie is that he's relying on the sole lexicon surveying the peculiar former dialect in which the genuine Koran was first assembled: Edward William Lane's Lexicon! To attack it with modern Arabic (as AB does) is a loosing hand from the beginning.
Thus AP's references are the strongest there is. Let's see what Lane said about modern Arabic, motivating his incomparable Lexicon:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume one, pp. vii – viii; xxii - xxiiiYou will be surprised to know that Muslims do not learn Arabic from lane's Lexicon. I have never referred to his Lexicon at all and I believe that AB also does not need it. I searched Apple Pie's posts on various forums, using Google Search and I can assure you that he cannot be trusted at all. His posts are full of distortion and the man appears to be clueless and ignorant of Arabic.Every language without a written literature tends to decay more than to development by reason of foreign influences; and the history of the Arabic exhibits an instance of decay remarkably rapid, and extraordinary in degree. An immediate consequence of the foreign conquests achieved by the Arabs under Mohammad’s first four successors was an extensive corruption of their language.
For the nations that they subdued were naturally obliged to adopt in a great measure the speech of the conquerors, a speech which few persons have ever acquired in such a degree as to be secure from the commission of frequent errors in grammar without learning it from infancy….
The classical language they called, by reason of its incomparable excellence, “el-loghah,” or “the language:” and the line between this and the post-classical was easily drawn, on account of the almost sudden commencement, and rapid progress, of the corruption. …
I often have found in my knowledge of modern Arabic a solution of a difficulty; but without great caution, such knowledge would frequently have misled me, in consequence of the changes which have taken place in the applications of many words since the classical age.
One cannot write a book or articles in any language by using the lexicons and dictionaries. Even if I used lane's Lexicon to explain 86, it will never lead me to produce a preposterous misinterpretation of the Surah as Apple Pie has wrongly done.
Lane was an Orientalist. Compared with Sir William Muir and Dr. Sprenger, who were both polemicists. Lane was better in the sense that he did a good Lexicon for Arabic and he was not a polemicist. But Lane's Lexicon was done for English-speaking audience. He did it only about 150 years ago and he laerned from Muslim scholars, who had the knowledge of a thousand plus years with them in the form of books and scripts from the early Imams.
No. Lane' Lexicon is not an authority. I can refute AP's posts without using any lexicons.The Cat wrote:In short: if someone really wants to refute AP's then he's bound to use Lane's Lexicon to stand the basic criterias of linguistic scholars.
The Cat wrote:Let us now have a look on the major part of surah 86
Spoiler! :Is that AP's view? The world always knew that Venus is the Morning Star.The Cat wrote:The surah, although allegorical, is a CLEAR reference to the Southern Cross Constellation as the 'Morning Star',
transposed in the earthly context of Jesus' death on the cross (the piercing star being the side little bright one)
The Cat wrote:The surah clearly states that mankind was determined by Jesus' death (the gushing fluid issue between his loins and ribs). It then talks about his Resurrection, the Judgment day, where all ''thoughts shall be searched out'' by Allah's Word: Isa !
First, he thinks that the word "Sulb" is the Cross, which is really silly. If you check Lane's Lexicon and concordance or any other dictionary, you will know that Cross in Arabic is Thaleeb (Saleeb). This already demolishes AP's argument. There is no talk of any CROSS in Surah 86.
AP then goes on to the verse "Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ib" and thinks that Jesus comes from between the Sulb and Taraib. What comes out is the semen, not Jesus. That is where AP is mistaken.
There is no talk about Jesus and the cross in Surah 86. The essence of the message in those verse, is that man should think of what he has been created.
Hope this helped. It is a pleasure to discuss with you. I was getting almost bored here but tried my best to entertain other ignorant posters.

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Edited to add: Where can I find AP's full collection?
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When I have more time, I will do a write up on 48:18-27 to show the actual context and that would give a very clear picture.The Cat wrote: For the moment, it seems inextricable... and depends much on the context of 48.24, as you've said.
By just reading and discussing 48:24, one can never make out the context.
Or, if you are quite clear on that, then please let me know.
There is no need to hurry or rush up. Please write at a comfortable pace.
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What a filthy, retarded, sharmooot, punk of a daily molested queer.Skenderbeg wrote:Jesus is in Heaven according to your crap Quran alive well and happy and will return unlike your Mohammed who is dead and buried like a dog in a ugly dirty grave in the desert. the real trolling was Mohammed twisting the story of Jesus for his benifit of personnel power and has idiots like you to follow his vile evil brutal cult to helll...Ghalibkhastahaal wrote:I think you will be writing next, "Jesus was a miserable bastard!" Please don't troll in here, Dunce!Skenderbeg wrote:Who really care's what the crap Quran says ? its all Mohammeds words and his criminal gang and nothing more..
Mohammed was a sick bastard who enjoyed playing prophet, it was good for him, it got him. slaves, robbing people. killing people. moleseting little girls, fkign slave females. also son's wife, and we care what his crap Quran says ?
Muslims make no sense they sayJesus was not divine but was like adam.....well not really he was nothing like Adam..
for one Adam was created from dust and had no mother died and was buried in the mud.......Jesus on the other hand had a mother unlike Adam, and unlike Adam Jesus was not buried but taken up alive to heaven to be with Allah himself, according to the Quran, so where is Jesus and Adam the same ? Mohammed just made things up and had no idea what the hell he was saying other then to confuse himself and his followers, I don't think Mohammed remembered what he said from one day to the other, much less from year to year.....the Quran was written after his death, his followers put whatever they wanted in their book, the Quran in my opinion is a book put together by Mohammed's criminal gang for personal power..and its not hard to see why they began killing each other as soon as he died, if they really believed he was a real prophet they wouldn't have slaughtered each other right after his death, they were all greedy dirt bags criminal gangsters who followed their Godfather in crime Mohammed
You have set the rules, you filthy metnak
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Well, the pleasure is partaken. Yet, the cross of surah 86 is the Crux Constellation.Ghalibkhastahaal wrote:AP then goes on to the verse "Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ib" and thinks that Jesus comes from between the Sulb and Taraib. What comes out is the semen, not Jesus. That is where AP is mistaken. There is no talk about Jesus and the cross in Surah 86. The essence of the message in those verse, is that man should think of what he has been created.
Hope this helped. It is a pleasure to discuss with you.
Please see my anthropological thread on this: Happy Resurrection
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Let me be more explicit about the pierced star in the Southern constellation
And the figurative of this in the Christian mythology as I understood it...

--By the heaven and the Morning Star
--Ah, what will tell thee what the Morning Star is!
--The piercing Star!
--No human soul but hath a guardian over it.
--So let man consider from what he is created.
--He is created from a gushing fluid
--That issued from between the loins and ribs.
It's clearly talking about mankind determined by the gushing fluid that came out from Jesus when pierced by a Roman!
The surah clearly states that mankind was determined by Jesus' death (the gushing fluid issue between his loins and ribs).
It then talks about the Resurrection, the Judgment day, where all ''thoughts shall be searched out'' by Allah's Word: Isa !
--Lo! He verily is Able to return him (unto life)
--On the day when hidden thoughts shall be searched out.
--Then will he have no might nor any helper.
--By the heaven which giveth the returning rain,
--And the earth which splitteth (with the growth of trees and plants)
--Lo! this is a conclusive word, It is no pleasantry.
The Southern Cross (or Crux) Constellation is The celestial background behind Christianity. A must to know and study!
In ancient time it was related with spring resurrection, fertility..... then appearing ONLY in Easter' (April's) mornings!
It is still a true guiding light since it does indicate to travelers and sailors almost the perfect south. Not Venus...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crux" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (notice how, on some of the flags, the 'piercing star' is shown like that of AB's Australia)
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Of course I have a Christian background and you a Muslim one. Don't we say: 'Vive la Difference' !
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You are dismissed
You ignorant and confused inmate, the Australian flag does not show a star, rather a constellation of a few stars. The Quran on the other hand is talking about a single star.The Cat wrote: The Southern Cross (or Crux) Constellation is The celestial background behind Christianity. A must to know and study!
In ancient time it was related with spring resurrection, fertility..... then appearing ONLY in Easter' (April's) mornings!
It is still a true guiding light since it does indicate to travelers and sailors almost the perfect south. Not Venus...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crux" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (notice how, on some of the flags, the 'piercing star' is shown like that of AB's Australia)
You are dismissed
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Spoiler! :
Apple Pie's Koranic BibleThanks very much and I will read it, when you post. No rush and no worries.
Edited to add: Where can I find AP's full collection?
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Which is plainly the piercing star within the Crux constellation. Otherwise, you are left with Venus-Lucifer and... Apple Pie !AhmedBahgat wrote:You ignorant and confused inmate, the Australian flag does not show a star, rather a constellation of a few stars.The Cat wrote:The Southern Cross (or Crux) Constellation is The celestial background behind Christianity. A must to know and study!
In ancient time it was related with spring resurrection, fertility..... then appearing ONLY in Easter' (April's) mornings!
It is still a true guiding light since it does indicate to travelers and sailors almost the perfect south. Not Venus...
The Quran on the other hand is talking about a single star.
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None of that, inmate; the verse is talking indirectly about any star turning into a black hole. Dismiss yourselfThe Cat wrote:Which is plainly the piercing star within the Crux constellation. Otherwise, you are left with Venus-Lucifer and... Apple Pie !AhmedBahgat wrote:You ignorant and confused inmate, the Australian flag does not show a star, rather a constellation of a few stars.The Cat wrote:The Southern Cross (or Crux) Constellation is The celestial background behind Christianity. A must to know and study!
In ancient time it was related with spring resurrection, fertility..... then appearing ONLY in Easter' (April's) mornings!
It is still a true guiding light since it does indicate to travelers and sailors almost the perfect south. Not Venus...
The Quran on the other hand is talking about a single star.
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Well, the plain context is the Hudaibiyah negociations, isn't it? There was almost war, tensions...Ghalibkhastahaal wrote:When I have more time, I will do a write up on 48:18-27 to show the actual context and that would give a very clear picture.The Cat wrote:For the moment, it seems inextricable... and depends much on the context of 48.24, as you've said.
By just reading and discussing 48:24, one can never make out the context.
Or, if you are quite clear on that, then please let me know.
There is no need to hurry or rush up. Please write at a comfortable pace.
Thus the meaning I kept from the CA dictionaries:
Al-Ghani MKK: Sucking; used with an opponent to mean others insisting on requests from him.
Now, if you don't want to translate this idea with ''in the midst of swindles'' with what word would you state the meaning?
You've said: ''The words in Arabic for Destruction and Swindles, are Tadmeer and fa'amliyat, respectively''. But back then?
The Classical dictionaries states that destruction is one of the meaning for MKK. We can't explain makkata with modern Arabic.
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Black hole, indirectly... You took some very good stuff, indeed. Show me where in surah 86?AhmedBahgat wrote:the verse is talking indirectly about any star turning into a black hole. Dismiss yourself

--By the heaven and the Morning Star
--Ah, what will tell thee what the Morning Star is!
--The piercing Star!
--No human soul but hath a guardian over it.
--So let man consider from what he is created.
--He is created from a gushing fluid
--That issued from between the loins and ribs.
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I will get back to you, inmate pussy, when I have time, but for the mean time enjoy this in your cell:
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Re: Who's the Koranic father of Jesus?
Bible speak of Jesus as son of god in terms of his divinity, or the word of god.But idiot Mohammed thought its literal and added porn to Koran saying Mary kept her private parts guarded until allah blew into it.Only to be confused later with Miriam daughter of imran
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Qur'an 21:91
* Literal: "her genital parts , so We blew into her"
Qur'an 66:12
ومريم ابنت عمران التي احصنت فرجها فنفخنا فيه من روحنا وصدقت بكلمات ربها وكتبه وكانت من القانتين
Transliteration: Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena
Literal: And Mary Amran's daughter who remained chaste (protected) her genital parts between her legs, so We blew in it
Why is Allah (Mo) feel it so important that he mentions blowing into vagina here and there in his Korand, was he forgetful, that he already mentioned it in 21:91?
As perverted as his sex maniac Paedophet Mo?
* Literal: "her genital parts , so We blew into her"
Qur'an 66:12
ومريم ابنت عمران التي احصنت فرجها فنفخنا فيه من روحنا وصدقت بكلمات ربها وكتبه وكانت من القانتين
Transliteration: Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena
Literal: And Mary Amran's daughter who remained chaste (protected) her genital parts between her legs, so We blew in it
Why is Allah (Mo) feel it so important that he mentions blowing into vagina here and there in his Korand, was he forgetful, that he already mentioned it in 21:91?
As perverted as his sex maniac Paedophet Mo?
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Islamic Football Team: Striker:Extremist; Defender: Moderate One; Goallie :Leftist